“Town centre” is usually a figure of speech but the necessity of reverting
depends case by case. Sometimes a “limited revert” is better because the edit
was in good faith but the problems caused were unintentional.
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To: Andy Robinson
Cc: Richard Mann; Talk GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
On 20 November 2014 08:51, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote:
It’s not likely to be as simple as saying everywhere within a city
boundary is a suburb. A simple example is the town
I am not a fan of reverting in general. Sure there are some mistakes here
but surely not even the most steadfast old timers here think that *all* of
these changes are wrong. Maybe *shrug* it is 50/50 here right/wrong.
And I disagree with the *only* way to deal with is to revert. You could
simply
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Linking to local help is what is missing
From the wiki ? That's easy to solve I think. Even if it is just a text
Do change the place-tags in the UK, leave all the tagging as it is now
without documenting what the
On 19/11/14 22:37, Lester Caine wrote:
The wiki only provides general guide lines and picking WHICH rules to
use is much better discussed by a local group than being applied without
any reference to the on the ground situation ...
In that case, you should edit the wiki to either cover the
I guess the problem is that quarter/suburb just isn't a natural-english
hierarchy, whereas we do know what town/suburb mean.
What is certainly clear is that distinct town centres in the London suburbs
are not the same as other suburbs, and deserve a separate place type.
place=town has served that
Andy
From: Richard Mann [mailto:richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com]
Sent: 20 November 2014 08:17
To: Talk GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
I guess the problem is that quarter/suburb just isn't a natural-english
hierarchy, whereas we do know what town/suburb mean
On 20/11/2014 07:52, Lester Caine wrote:
... although the list of other local mappers on your profile is one
place where I would like to see that particular link included!
... and don't forget that iD already includes an edits by section at
the bottom of the screen which links to people who
of Peckham to the
question of What town/city/village do you live in? and yes I lived there
too.
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From: t...@acrewoods.net
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:01:33 +
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
To: ajrli...@gmail.com
CC: rovas
On 20/11/14 08:11, David Woolley wrote:
The relatively light retro-moderation approach is one of the reasons
that contribute to OSM, when compared with the heavy, mandatory,
moderation that seems to happen on Google Maps. If large numbers of
changesets are going to get reverted because
On 20 November 2014 08:51, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote:
It’s not likely to be as simple as saying everywhere within a city boundary
is a suburb. A simple example is the town of Sutton Coldfield which recently
regained it Royal Town status, Its officially a town in every traditional
[mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com]
Sent: 19 November 2014 10:46
To: 'Tom Chance'; 'talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
Will revert the Birmingham changeset so we can discuss locally
Cheers
Andy
From: Tom Chance [mailto:t...@acrewoods.net
Hello there,
As somebody who dislikes change, I was slightly horrified to see these
edits:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26783815
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26795471
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26567938
The user has changed a whole lot of places within London
I'd revert the changes.
The rule I worked to a couple of years ago, when I tried to iron out some
of the inconsistencies in London was to use place=town for places with a
sizeable retail centre (typically lots of clothes shops as well as food).
Richard
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Tom
Will revert the Birmingham changeset so we can discuss locally
Cheers
Andy
From: Tom Chance [mailto:t...@acrewoods.net]
Sent: 19 November 2014 10:07
To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)
Subject: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
Hello there,
As somebody who dislikes change, I
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Tom Chance wrote:
Hello there,
As somebody who dislikes change, I was slightly horrified to see these
edits:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26783815
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26795471
I'd certainly object to Camden - Camden Town. There are
On 19/11/14 10:07, Tom Chance wrote:
The user has changed a whole lot of places within London and Birmingham
that were tagged as town / village / hamlet / etc. to place=suburb. He
appears to be following the advice now given on the wiki, that:
Areas of a town/city should not be tagged with
For info, I added a comment to the first of these changesets and the
editor replied there:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26783815
Cheers,
Andy
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On 19/11/14 11:55, SomeoneElse wrote:
For info, I added a comment to the first of these changesets and the
editor replied there:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26783815
I've commented on 26795471 as well. Things are inconsistent everywhere
with wikipedia describing Hayes as a town,
Some general notes:
1. Many people (especially estate agents) add 'town' 'village' etc to
addresses in an attempt to appear further upmarket keep prices a bit
higher. Never really works.
2. I agree with the editor's comment that confusion/disagreement about
degrees of suburbs is not a
/many/all of these to a more correct and modern (well
post 09/2006) standard.
From: t...@acrewoods.net
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:07:16 +
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
Hello there,
As somebody who dislikes change, I was slightly horrified
: John Baker [mailto:rovas...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 19 November 2014 17:27
To: Tom Chance; talk-gb OSM List E-mail
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
Lets put some clarity on this.
a) they are not big edits. They are a handful of nodes.
b) advice now given in the wiki and self
these areas.
I am all for changes some/many/all of these to a more correct and modern
(well post 09/2006) standard.
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From: t...@acrewoods.net
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:07:16 +
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
.
And no-one has ever answered I live in the village of Peckham to the question
of What town/city/village do you live in? and yes I lived there too.
From: t...@acrewoods.net
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:01:33 +
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
To: ajrli...@gmail.com
CC: rovas
I lived there
too.
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From: t...@acrewoods.net
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:01:33 +
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
To: ajrli...@gmail.com
CC: rovas...@hotmail.com; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Thanks for all the comments.
Could
Know I hit - reply to list :(
On 19/11/14 20:54, John Baker wrote:
I understand the arguments against the wiki from the haters here.
However it is used as a point of reference and should be more respected
and anti-wiki comments are just insulting to those that actually take
the effort to edit
live in the village of Peckham to the question
of What town/city/village do you live in? and yes I lived there too.
From: t...@acrewoods.netmailto:t...@acrewoods.net
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:01:33 +
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits
On 19/11/14 22:10, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
I'm playing Devil's Advocate here, of course,
http://www.mappa-mercia.org/
A good model for mappers in other areas to follow ...
The wiki only provides general guide lines and picking WHICH rules to
use is much better discussed by a local group than
I just had a discussion with a new mapper in Belgium. He has local
knowledge. How does he know which rules he has to follow ? Is there a
pop-up in the iD editor telling him that he has to contact the Belgian
mappers to get learn about which rules he has to follow ? No. He just
starts using the
On 20/11/14 04:43, Marc Gemis wrote:
I just had a discussion with a new mapper in Belgium. He has local
knowledge. How does he know which rules he has to follow ? Is there a
pop-up in the iD editor telling him that he has to contact the Belgian
mappers to get learn about which rules he has to
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