Re: [Talk-GB] Idea - OSMUK walkers' map application -- -& server

2020-12-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg via Talk-GB
Hello Seán, Thanks for that, sounds a great idea! Would be a great addition to any UK countryside map once you have opened your API. Nick From: Seán Lynch Sent: 11 December 2020 21:03 To: Nick Whitelegg Cc: Andy Townsend ; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Martin Wynne
p.s. here's a screenshot of that. It looks silly: https://85a.uk/missing_driveway_zoom15.png Martin. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Martin Wynne
On 12/12/2020 13:03, Nick wrote: For this particular example it is clearly complex as it was shown as a 'permissive' footpath (other non vehicular access was along the designated bridleway). As this is in England and given that the driveway seems to have just been changed to 'designated', I

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Nick
For this particular example it is clearly complex as it was shown as a 'permissive' footpath (other non vehicular access was along the designated bridleway). As this is in England and given that the driveway seems to have just been changed to 'designated', I assume the change made to the map

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Nick
Would changing this to Tag:highway=bridleway be a starting point? On 12/12/2020 13:03, Nick wrote: For this particular example it is clearly complex as it was shown as a 'permissive' footpath (other non vehicular access was along the designated bridleway). As this is in England and given that

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB
Yes, however the reasoning for this is that sometimes someone has drawn every single driveway on a street in a city/town.  Rendering this at low zoom levels would clutter the map. By contrast, tracks are often much more sparsely populated, so they don't clutter the map. I don't know what the

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread David Woolley
On 12/12/2020 13:20, Nick wrote: Would changing this to Tag:highway=bridleway be a starting point? I think the OP was saying there is a separate bridleway, almost parallel to the feature in question. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

[Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Martin Wynne
A common situation is that a service road/driveway continues as a track beyond the initial residential destination. This is common on farms. On the standard map at zoom level 15, driveways are not shown. But tracks and footpaths are. This seems counter-intuitive in that driveways are usually

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Mark Goodge
On 12/12/2020 12:34, Martin Wynne wrote: A common situation is that a service road/driveway continues as a track beyond the initial residential destination. This is common on farms. On the standard map at zoom level 15, driveways are not shown. But tracks and footpaths are. This seems

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Nick
Hi Martin I had to check the Council GIS - so the designation is Bridleway. Because of the complexity, if this was tagged something like 'Bridleway=Yes' and get that displayed on maps of footpaths, surely that would solve the problem? Nick On 12/12/2020 13:41, Martin Wynne wrote: On

[Talk-GB] Publishing a linked dataset

2020-12-12 Thread Martin - CycleStreets
Hi everyone, I'm currently looking at a dataset with a view to it being published, that defines a set of routes (various streets and paths), not physically marked on the ground, i.e. they are subjective rather than objective. The aim is to publish this as a dataset that then other people

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 12:34, Martin Wynne wrote: A common situation is that a service road/driveway continues as a track beyond the initial residential destination. This is common on farms. On the standard map at zoom level 15, driveways are not shown. But tracks and footpaths are. This seems

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 14:30, Martin Wynne wrote: On 12/12/2020 13:15, Andy Townsend wrote: Ultimately, if "something needs doing", "someone" will need to do it. Perhaps that someone is you? Hi Andy, Yes that someone could be me. I have a server (located in Columbus, Ohio) on which I am using

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Martin Wynne
On 12/12/2020 13:16, Mark Goodge wrote: Out in a rural area, nearly everybody would call that length of road, especially one that links a public highway with private farm tracks, a track or access road. Hi Mark, I'm not sure about that. In this part of the world, a roadway which links from

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Martin Wynne
On 12/12/2020 13:15, Andy Townsend wrote: Ultimately, if "something needs doing", "someone" will need to do it. Perhaps that someone is you? Hi Andy, Yes that someone could be me. I have a server (located in Columbus, Ohio) on which I am using only a fraction of the available memory space

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 13:59, Nick wrote: I had to check the Council GIS - so the designation is Bridleway. Because of the complexity, if this was tagged something like 'Bridleway=Yes' and get that displayed on maps of footpaths, surely that would solve the problem? Hi Nick, Yes that is pretty

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread David Woolley
On 12/12/2020 21:11, Martin Wynne wrote: What I'm wondering is how the typical recreational country walker would find that map, Your first problem would be establishing a funding model for it; OSM, in general, is not funded to a level that would support large scale end user use. > or

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread ael via Talk-GB
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:54:54PM +, ael via Talk-GB wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 09:11:32PM +, Martin Wynne wrote: > > On 12/12/2020 17:37, Andy Townsend wrote: > > > > something about myself, is to map and provide rendering for the area:highway > > tag: > > > >

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Nick
Hi Andy Yes I understand the tag that has been used (i.e. designation) although I was suggesting the tag "Bridleway", the question that Martin posed was that "at zoom level 15, driveways are not shown", so the work around in this case might be to make a way with feature type = Bridleway?

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 19:47, Nick wrote: Hi Andy Yes I understand the tag that has been used (i.e. designation) although I was suggesting the tag "Bridleway", the question that Martin posed was that "at zoom level 15, driveways are not shown", so the work around in this case might be to make a way

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Martin Wynne
On 12/12/2020 17:37, Andy Townsend wrote: That allows maps such as https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=16=52.28208=-2.42987 to display it as a public bridleway (in blue) Hi Andy, That's a great map! It seems you have already done what I would be interested in doing - to

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread ael via Talk-GB
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 09:11:32PM +, Martin Wynne wrote: > On 12/12/2020 17:37, Andy Townsend wrote: > > something about myself, is to map and provide rendering for the area:highway > tag: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:area:highway > > Country walkers often need to include a

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Martin Wynne
On 12/12/2020 21:30, David Woolley wrote: Your first problem would be establishing a funding model for it; OSM, in general, is not funded to a level that would support large scale end user use. Hi David, Small-scale end use would be a start. But folks need to find it in the first

[Talk-GB] Map styles and rendering various things (was: Re: driveway-becomes-track)

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 21:11, Martin Wynne wrote: On 12/12/2020 17:37, Andy Townsend wrote: That allows maps such as https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=16=52.28208=-2.42987 to display it as a public bridleway (in blue) Hi Andy, That's a great map! It seems you have already done