[Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
I have come across, and corrected a number of mis-tagged UK towns and cities, which had clearly been mis-tagged to suit the renderer. City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like trunk roads I see

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Tom Hughes
On 25/02/14 09:47, Philip Barnes wrote: City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like trunk roads I see it as the way we do things here. You are correct that a City in the UK is defined that way.

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Andy Allan
On 25 February 2014 09:47, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like trunk roads I see it as the way we do things here. Is that actually documented

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
It is obviously documented on wikipedia, but also one of those basic bits of general knowledge you pick up over the years, was probably taught it at school. It is always in the news at the time of jubilees that new cities are created. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 25/02/2014

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Andy Street
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:13:59 + Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: If anything, I'd like to amend the UK use of place=city to come up with a use of the tag that fits in with global OSM usage. We can add a tag for 'ceremonial status' or similar to indicate they are a 'city' according

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Richard Mann
I added a population tag to some of the dubious ones (primarily the larger non-cities) to enable them to be identified by the renderer. Rochester/Chatham is complicated (not least by the fact that Rochester managed to lose its City status by accident). On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread David Earl
place=city, contrary to various differing cultural uses of the word City, used to be somewhere over a certain population, 100K IIRC. However, it appears the definition on the wiki has been substantially relaxed, as has town. Nevertheless it is still defined by size, albeit woolly: The largest

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
That is absolutely my point, we should tag the facts and leave it to different renderers to then use those facts in the way that best suits their users. We should not deliberately mis-tag to make Milton Keynes bigger than St Albans on mapnick, mapnick is just one of many renderers, a fact often

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Tom Hughes
On 25/02/14 13:07, Philip Barnes wrote: That is absolutely my point, we should tag the facts and leave it to different renderers to then use those facts in the way that best suits their users. The question that needs to be answered is what fact does place=city represent in UK mapping. Your

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/02/14 13:07, Philip Barnes wrote: That is absolutely my point, we should tag the facts and leave it to different renderers to then use those facts in the way that best suits their users. The question that needs to be answered is what fact does place=city represent in UK

[Talk-GB] Derby (translocated Nottingham) Pub Meeting tonight

2014-02-25 Thread SK53
Exeter Arms close to bus station across the Derwent, 19:30. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup Hope to see some of you there! Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Colin Smale
Formal UK City status may be held by a council (can be borough/district/unitary/parish) or by Charter Trustees. I am working on some kind of normalisation in the tagging for administrative areas and I am proposing to reflect the formal city/town status in the council_style=* tag, to show what