Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-07 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 05/07/2011 10:51, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Tom Chance wrote: So I suspect it's potentially breaching copyright, and a matter of judgement as to whether it's worth the risk. For example, if you were copying in data from a commercial web site whose business model was based around that data

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-06 Thread Andrew
Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes: ...but when you get to every OSM-GB contributor checking five addresses, yes, it probably is. And we don't have any way of saying ok, we've taken enough from tesco.com. If anyone is concerned about scraping websites we could always contact the firms to

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-05 Thread Tom Chance
On 4 July 2011 14:05, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: On 04/07/2011 12:48, Donald Noble wrote: Sorry if this has been covered before, but I was just wondering what the copyright position is with checking details of, say a church or a shop, on their website and then adding those

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tom Chance wrote: So I suspect it's potentially breaching copyright, and a matter of judgement as to whether it's worth the risk. For example, if you were copying in data from a commercial web site whose business model was based around that data (like a listing of pubs) you might get

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-05 Thread Ed Avis
My rule of thumb is that getting facts from an individual website for a cafe or shop or church is fine, but do not copy from online directories or the databases maintained by search engines. If adding details from a website I will usually note it in the 'source' or 'uri' tags, or in the changeset

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Earl wrote: Even then, to infringe database copyright under UK law you would have to copy a substantial part of the database. Checking or obtaining a few names against such a list isn't database copyright infringement Oh, absolutely. The thing I've always been anxious about, though, is

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-05 Thread David Earl
On 05/07/2011 11:26, Richard Fairhurst wrote: David Earl wrote: Even then, to infringe database copyright under UK law you would have to copy a substantial part of the database. Checking or obtaining a few names against such a list isn't database copyright infringement Oh, absolutely. The

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-05 Thread Nick Austin
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:58 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: To take a different example, the Royal Mail (still) claims database copyright over the PAF (postcode address file) database. Would crowd sourcing the address vs postcode data by each individual putting in their own

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-05 Thread David Earl
On 05/07/2011 12:28, Nick Austin wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:58 AM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: To take a different example, the Royal Mail (still) claims database copyright over the PAF (postcode address file) database. Would crowd sourcing the address vs postcode data

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-04 Thread Michael Collinson
On 04/07/2011 12:48, Donald Noble wrote: Sorry if this has been covered before, but I was just wondering what the copyright position is with checking details of, say a church or a shop, on their website and then adding those details to OSM? I would have thought that this was fair use of the