If you think Bristol or Aberdeen are mad then try Norwich:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/172506
Again presumably due to Norwich's history as a port and therefore
having control of the river.
Tom
On 12/09/2020 22:53, Russ Garrett wrote:
Yeah, I assume what happened is that the City
On 2020-09-12 23:53, Russ Garrett wrote:
> Yeah, I assume what happened is that the City of Bristol ended up, at
> some point, as a statutory port authority (which I think they were
> until 1991), and somehow the boundary from that has remained as their
> local authority boundary. But it's still
Yeah, I assume what happened is that the City of Bristol ended up, at
some point, as a statutory port authority (which I think they were
until 1991), and somehow the boundary from that has remained as their
local authority boundary. But it's still a fairly unique situation as
there are many other
On 12/09/2020 21:23, Russ Garrett wrote:
I've foolishly now decided to try to get to the bottom of it - the
beating of the bounds still doesn't explain why exactly it covers that
area (although I'm impressed that the Lord Mayor managed to commandeer
a warship to do so!)
AIUI, it's because
On 2020-09-12 22:23, Russ Garrett wrote:
> Incidentally, the OSM wiki page for Wales claims that the sea boundary
> between Wales and England is not well-defined:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wales#Boundary
Then the wiki is wrong. The "Welsh Zone" was most recently defined by
the:
THE
On 12/09/2020 21:11, Rob Nickerson wrote:
"extremely stupid reasons" in this case relates to an very old tradition
where the Lord Mayor of Bristol 'beats the bounds' of the city by
rowing/sailing out to the islands.
As a consequence a small wedge of the city of Bristol bounds lies within
I've foolishly now decided to try to get to the bottom of it - the
beating of the bounds still doesn't explain why exactly it covers that
area (although I'm impressed that the Lord Mayor managed to commandeer
a warship to do so!)
Incidentally, the OSM wiki page for Wales claims that the sea
"extremely stupid reasons" in this case relates to an very old tradition
where the Lord Mayor of Bristol 'beats the bounds' of the city by
rowing/sailing out to the islands.
As a consequence a small wedge of the city of Bristol bounds lies within
Welsh water.
You get a similar situation with
This anomaly gives rise to the situation that there is a triangle (more
or less) of water near Flat Holm which is simultaneously within the
jurisdiction of Wales and the City of Bristol. It probably only matters
for things like fishing, as that was basically the reason to define
clearly the
Oh wait, I remember now. This is correct for extremely stupid reasons
relating to the boundaries of the county of Bristol including a large
chunk of the Bristol Channel.
I can confirm the boundary in OSM matches the one in OS Boundary Line.
That relation could probably do with a note tag on it,
I'm pretty sure Flat Holm is part of Cardiff - Steep Holm is in
England but it also isn't in Bristol as far as I know. There's
definitely something weird going on with the boundaries there but it
also looks like nothing has changed around there in a while. Curious.
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 18:39,
This island, in the bristol Channel between Weston super Mare and Barry
seems to be in two countries at once. It's on the Welsh side of the
national boundary but also in South West England City of Bristol. This is
either a map error with the Welsh boundary or a legal anomaly I don't know
which.
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