Tom Hughes wrote:
On 22/04/14 13:29, SomeoneElse wrote:
1) place=city in OSM might or might not not mean the same as is a
ceremonial city, as defined in the UK
There is no might about it. The wiki at least is explicit:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcity
Absolutely - and
On 2014-04-24 11:57, SomeoneElse wrote:
2) We need some way to represent ceremonial city, if it's not to be
place=city Sure, if you want uk_legal_status=city then go ahead and add
that.
designation=city perhaps? Isn't that what the designation tag is
supposed to be for?
As long as this
This was last discussed back in February:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2014-February/015867.html
when someone (in the UK) changed a number of place=city to place=town.
The discussion at the time covered:
1) place=city in OSM might or might not not mean the same as is a
On 22/04/14 13:29, SomeoneElse wrote:
1) place=city in OSM might or might not not mean the same as is a
ceremonial city, as defined in the UK
There is no might about it. The wiki at least is explicit:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcity
Smaller charter cities should normally
There is no might about it. The wiki at least is explicit:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcity
But has also had the meaning pretty much redefined in 2013 from how
I understood it to be before then.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:place%3Dcityold
id=812669
On 22/04/14 14:10, Ed Loach wrote:
There is no might about it. The wiki at least is explicit:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcity
But has also had the meaning pretty much redefined in 2013 from how
I understood it to be before then.
If you want to know population, we should use a population tag. Given
its history, much as we might like to pretend otherwise, place=city etc
really *is* no more than an arbitrary hint to the renderer, and not much
good either because it doesn't reflect the other criteria that would
determine
I have come across, and corrected a number of mis-tagged UK towns and cities,
which had clearly been mis-tagged to suit the renderer.
City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be
claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like trunk
roads I see
On 25/02/14 09:47, Philip Barnes wrote:
City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be
claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like
trunk roads I see it as the way we do things here.
You are correct that a City in the UK is defined that way.
On 25 February 2014 09:47, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be
claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like trunk
roads I see it as the way we do things here.
Is that actually documented
It is obviously documented on wikipedia, but also one of those basic bits of
general knowledge you pick up over the years, was probably taught it at school.
It is always in the news at the time of jubilees that new cities are created.
Phil (trigpoint)
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On 25/02/2014
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:13:59 +
Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
If anything, I'd like to amend the UK use of place=city to come up
with a use of the tag that fits in with global OSM usage. We can add a
tag for 'ceremonial status' or similar to indicate they are a 'city'
according
I added a population tag to some of the dubious ones (primarily the larger
non-cities) to enable them to be identified by the renderer.
Rochester/Chatham is complicated (not least by the fact that Rochester
managed to lose its City status by accident).
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Andy
place=city, contrary to various differing cultural uses of the word
City, used to be somewhere over a certain population, 100K IIRC.
However, it appears the definition on the wiki has been substantially
relaxed, as has town. Nevertheless it is still defined by size, albeit
woolly: The largest
That is absolutely my point, we should tag the facts and leave it to different
renderers to then use those facts in the way that best suits their users.
We should not deliberately mis-tag to make Milton Keynes bigger than St Albans
on mapnick, mapnick is just one of many renderers, a fact often
On 25/02/14 13:07, Philip Barnes wrote:
That is absolutely my point, we should tag the facts and leave it to
different renderers to then use those facts in the way that best suits
their users.
The question that needs to be answered is what fact does place=city
represent in UK mapping.
Your
On 25/02/14 13:07, Philip Barnes wrote:
That is absolutely my point, we should tag the facts and leave it to
different renderers to then use those facts in the way that best suits
their users.
The question that needs to be answered is what fact does place=city
represent in UK
Formal UK City status may be held by a council (can be
borough/district/unitary/parish) or by Charter Trustees. I am working on
some kind of normalisation in the tagging for administrative areas and I
am proposing to reflect the formal city/town status in the
council_style=* tag, to show what
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