Re: [OSM-talk] [Mapcss] Web browser mapping test

2011-06-20 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:57:42 +0300, Komяpa m...@komzpa.net wrote: and point it to URL http://kothic.org/js/ Hey, just wanted to say that it looks awsome! Great work there! Sebastian pgpXZFSjB963I.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

2008-12-17 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Peter Miller wrote: I wound be very interested to see the first time that a transport authority took a person to court for promoting their services but there may be a first time! I do suggest that this is a different project from OSM though. Like this? Berlin Metro Bans Free iPhone

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo WMS server?

2008-12-07 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Nic Roets wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been told that the yahoo license permits derivative works which also is the reason why potlatch and josm are making use of this. Wouldn't a server distrubuting slightly

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-02 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Per wrote: Now we can see a big discussion, but no one did anything constructive! One thing is clear, we need a tag to describe the usability of ways. If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme! Smoothness is better than nothing. surface=cobblestones/paved/gravel/sand/dirt/grass

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-02 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) Same here. Or at the very least rename some roads please :-) spaetz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [Legal-general] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-21 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Frederik Ramm wrote: All OS are doing is clarifying that a normal OS customer will probably *not* have the right to grant others (Google) a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free license. This is true for OSM as well; my reading is that we must not display OSM data (say, a KML

Re: [OSM-talk] natural=peak, ele vs. elevation

2008-11-13 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
David Carmean wrote: I want to place some hilltop/mountaintop peak nodes, and I see that there's a discrepancy between the instructions on the Features page and what, for example, Osmarender wants. Osmarender seems to want elevation while the wiki recommendation is for ele. What does

Re: [OSM-talk] Markers on the slippy map

2008-11-10 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Gervase Markham wrote: Ulf Lamping wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.64685mlon=-0.14641zoom=15 But then how would you get a marker on the Osmarender layer? Cutting the stuff out of the export tab thing, I get:

Re: [OSM-talk] UK Industrial Estate Roads

2008-11-07 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
David Earl wrote: On 07/11/2008 06:48, Joshua Scotton wrote: Hi, I added some streets recently on an industrial estate and tagged them highway=road as I'm not sure what other tag to use. They are roads on a uk industrial estate with the normal white lines in the middle of the road.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-06 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Ulf Lamping wrote: Come on. There is no the renderer, you can set up your own if you like. Anyone can. Of course, I could climb on the top of the mount everest - in theory. In practise I would need a lot of time to learn how to do that. Yes so what? I learned how osmarender styles worked

Re: [OSM-talk] barrier=gate, run a script?

2008-10-21 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Matthias Julius wrote: IMHO, if someone has the authority to put something on Map Features someone also has the authority to change or remove something or mark it as deprecated. Let me disagree. You are implying that just because I can add stuff to map features, I can also decide to mark all

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Starting Repository For Public Domain OSM Data

2008-10-21 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Joseph Gentle wrote: Can we get a vague show of hands about what people think of this? I don't think its worth discussing for more than a day or so. If this issue is too contentious, we can let contributors decide with an option on their user page or something. +1 wikipedia version If you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Process for agreeing the new licence

2008-10-05 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Peter Miller wrote: Richard: Can I assume that you are in agreement with the 'brief brief' or do you want to suggest any changes? We really don't want people to stay silent now and then raise issues if we produce a licence that delivers on exactly that description. I like the way CC (used

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of conduct for automated (mass-) edits

2008-10-03 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Nick Barnes wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: One example to which I took exception is ... changing Strasse in the name to Straße, which is the correct spelling (but nonetheless Strasse is often found on signs). Straße may well be the correct spelling in German speaking countries, but it

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of conduct for automated (mass-) edits

2008-10-03 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: I am in favour of setting up a code of conduct for automated edits. Hi Frederik, while i have full understanding and sympathize with your approach, I am doubtful about its outcome. Those who will read and follow the code of conduct are not

Re: [OSM-talk] pronunciation tag

2008-06-24 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Lauri Hahne wrote: I think some standard form should be used if we ever want to do something like this. Although IPA is the official standard, it isn't very computer or user friendly. Therefore I think something like SAMPA, MRPA or X-SAMPA should be used. These are used to some extend among

Re: [OSM-talk] National borders in the British Islands

2008-05-30 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
elvin ibbotson wrote: As I understand it the numbers are not the problem, it arises from people not knowing which is the right number to use (eg. England/Scotland border admin_level 2 or 4?). This is why I think numbers are useful in the data but users should not have to know what numbers to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Blue tiles tagged Unknown Type in Osmarender

2008-05-23 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Neil Penman wrote: I've found a few of the blue unknown type tiles in Europe shown by Osmarender. There is one in the UK just west of Exeter and several in France south of Bourges. Anyone know what is causing the problem? The lowzoom stitcher downloads from the new captionless layer.

Re: [OSM-talk] precompiled navit bin-files

2008-05-22 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Florian Lohoff wrote: BTW: Are navit map binarys files endianess clean? I mean do i386 generated binfiles work on PPC or mips(big endian)? Or does it work to generate 32bit i386 files run with an x86_64 navit? The precompiled binary maps will run on a PPC just as well as on i386. However,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM support in KDE's Marble

2008-05-22 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Inge Wallin wrote: 3. Marble is not only an application, it's also an embeddable widget that you can use in other applications. So if you want to show some OSM in any application, use the marble widget and you're done. Phantastic work, Inge and others, thanks. Just as a piece of

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-14 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:25:39 +0200 Raphaël Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the boundary of the forrest run in parallel to the road is actually the correct way to do it. this is what you say. I say sharing nodes of the forest and the road is actually the correct way to do it. Why can't people

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Shaun McDonald wrote: If you have a road and stream running parallel they would be entered as 2 ways that are parallel. The same happens for the carriageways of a motorway that are separated by a barrier. Well, let's say that this is also controversial and we had that discussion before.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help provide completeness tools

2008-05-13 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Frederik Ramm wrote: Once we have a few applications in place that get viewed by *many* people, we could just have a button somewhere along the margin of the page that says: I know the area and what I see here looks correct. Given that this will be the default very soon ( :-) ), I'd rather

[OSM-talk] Online/offline slippy map finished.

2008-05-09 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Frustrated by the lack of a nice map viewing tool for my eee pc, I have written my own hack. It's a local OpenLayers installation that is served by a python script (stock python, no additional libs). If the tile does not exist yet, it will be downloaded from the OSM tile server and be stored

Re: [OSM-talk] Online/offline slippy map finished.

2008-05-09 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Sebastian Spaeth wrote: Frustrated by the lack of a nice map viewing tool for my eee pc, I have written my own hack. It's a local OpenLayers installation that is served by a python script (stock python, no additional libs). If the tile does not exist yet, it will be downloaded from the OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Online/offline slippy map finished.

2008-05-09 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Nick Black wrote: Great idea - this could be really useful. I get lots of errors running on OS X 10.5.2 though: File ./pymap, line 47, in do_GET if e.errno == os.errno.ENOENT: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'errno' I guess

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Online/offline slippy map finished.

2008-05-09 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Andy Allan wrote: I'll need to check this out - I've found it frustrating trying to demo the map even if I'm carrying my laptop around. On the vague chance that there's wireless available, all I get is ooh, that's really slow when it's the crappy wireless that's the problem :-) Simple local

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Online/offline slippy map finished.

2008-05-09 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Nick Black wrote: Cool - its all working now. Is there any cache expiry for tiles or is it a case of deleting the tile directory? No expiry so far, but it would be easy to make it so. All the pieces are ready, basically. Until then, just deleting old tiles must do. find tiles -mtime 30

Re: [OSM-talk] contours on main map

2008-05-08 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Robin Paulson wrote: is there any intention to include contours on the main map at any point? would it be possible to have them as a static layer (i.e. they not be re-rendered every week like the mapnik images, to save processing time), with a transparent background? alternatively, are

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-07 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Frederik Ramm wrote: I think the biggest problem for commercial users is probably the fact that they can't get legal info from us - if they ask can we do X then our response will always be read the license and ask a lawyer. I agree, that is very unsatifactory. It is even inconvenient to me as

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-07 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Nick Black wrote: Seriously, you can't actually expect OSM to change its license because of what a well-intentioned small company might do. No, but as long as we can't even tell a company that might use maps in their books on whether those books will be under the CC_BY_SA or just the images

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-07 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Gervase Markham wrote: The notion of derivative works is a fairly well defined one under copyright law. Many, many companies deal with this concept every day. -Right, so having an overlay with proprietary data on an OSM map is derived? As a separate layer? If it's merged in one image instead,

Re: [OSM-talk] SVG of length of Thames

2008-05-05 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Christian Nold wrote: Any chance someone could implement an SVG export from Osmarender from the website or look at some of the issues of the Mapnik one? You might want to talk to Mario, our Google Summer of code student who is working on customized osmarender output. Sebastian

Re: [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-03 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Vincent MEURISSE wrote: I don't understand why some users want their work in PD. The goal of osm is to have a map of the world freely available for anyone. But with PD someone (eg google) can take all the work of osm, correct and complete it, and copyright it in a way that osm cannot reuse

Re: [OSM-talk] Relaunch openstreetmap.de

2008-04-29 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Richard Fairhurst wrote: I really like http://www.openstreetmap.de/123/ you like it just because step 4 out of the 123 is start potlatch. admit it! ;-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Beyond Zoom 18 - (Some scratchspacing ideas concerning siteplans)

2008-04-22 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Tom Hughes wrote: [snip] if ($email=~/should/ and $email !~ /I will make it so/) then {print work harder unpaid slaves!} Well the dev server is over that way if somebody wants to volunteer to setup and run such a service. I'm sure Spaetz will oblige with an account on dev if required.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] GSoC applications are in! MENTORS wanted

2008-04-08 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Hakan Tandogan wrote: I am an self-employed Computer Scientist with lots of experience in databases and web applications. I live and work in Germany. Hi Hakan (I can probably talk in German with you :-)) thanks for volunteering, I have accepted you as a mentor. You can now click on any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] GSoC applications are in! MENTORS wanted

2008-04-08 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Nick Black wrote: And because they derive from Google Maps, more importantly. I think we should be a bit more careful with such statements. Nowhere on the geonames page do they say that data is, or should be, derived from Google Maps. What? Geonames allows you to move and edit data which

[OSM-talk] GSoC applications are in! MENTORS wanted

2008-04-08 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Hi all, Google summer of code application deadline has passed. We have received 27 applications. I have stripped out sensitive information such as e-mail addresses and other contact information (and also a full CV) and put the on this wiki page:

[OSM-talk] GSoC applications are in! Feedback wanted

2008-04-08 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Hi all, Google summer of code application deadline has passed. We have received 27 applications. I have stripped out sensitive information such as e-mail addresses and other contact information (and also a full CV) and put the on this wiki page:

Re: [OSM-talk] Relations not always brilliant

2008-04-08 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Sven Grüner wrote: I've recently created a sandbox going the whole way from Planet Earth to Some Road all in nested relations. You can browse it here: http://osm.schunterscouts.de/relation-browser.php (the URL accepts other relations as well, comments welcome) You do know that sometimes

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] Birmingham mapping party - Radio Interview today

2008-04-08 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Steve Chilton wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/wm.shtml to listen live Or follow RichardF's live transcripts in IRC interspersed with commentary. Thanks Richard :-). spaetz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Robert Vollmert wrote: I may be missing something, but why would we need to introduce a read- only attribution tag if we already have it? It's the source tag of the first version of an object, in http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/objtype/id/history +1 Sebastian

Re: [OSM-talk] Participating in TAH

2008-03-31 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Kyle Gordon wrote: I know this has already been answered, but it would be awesome if [EMAIL PROTECTED] could be accessed through the BOINC framework (especially as deployment to multiple computers would just involve an MSI and MST file). Anyone reckon if it's at all possible to get all

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
David Earl wrote: It's a hard call. I did do a kind of weighting in the where am I feature to give a reasonable spread of places of different kinds - though again Tom hasn't implemented this in quite the same way on the home page. I agree that it's a hard call (and trade-off). Also, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-26 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Lars Aronsson wrote: J.D. Schmidt wrote: It doesn't matter if the busstop is on the right or left side of the road... Neither OSM wise, nor in the real world. In the real world you use your eyes and see the busstop. Of course it matters which side the bus stop is on. You don't want to

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal/approval system is too heavyweight

2008-03-20 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Ulf Lamping wrote: Frederik Ramm schrieb: The way we usually do things around here is those who do the work get to decide how it's done. Interestingly, your vineyard example is exactly working that way. YOU have decided that you want to have vineyards in the way you like it. YOU have

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours server (was: Re: ski pistes)

2008-03-18 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Steve Hill wrote: Contours layer presented by openpistemap is simply great. Does it exist a server publishing only this layer? There is still the relief layer available, using addresses like http://srtm.in-ulm.de/layer/relief/z8/row89/8_134-89.jpg The tutorial on how to use these is here:

Re: [OSM-talk] we are a google summer of code project

2008-03-18 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Mikel Maron wrote: http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=284 Cool. Would many students please apply now between March 24 and March 31st for a project on our Wiki? A link to our wiki page and idea pool is here: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/streetmap/about.html Sebastian

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping with nokia 9500

2008-03-17 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
mariner wrote: As a result of the OpenExpo in Bern I started to contribute to the project. Thank you guys, for attending at the fair. Hey, cool to see that our stall actually helped. In the wiki I saw, that there are people wich are using a Nokia 9500 (Communicator) while doing some work for

[OSM-talk] OpenExpo, Bern and OpenStreetMap

2008-03-14 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
OpenExpo, Bern, Switzerland is over (1000 visitors) and I wrote an post on my experiences there: http://sspaeth.de/index.php?/archives/507-OpenExpo-and-OpenStreetMap-2008.html Thanks to all involved and helping, I enjoyed it a lot. Sebastian Spaeth

[OSM-talk] Next steps (was: Applied for Google Summer of Code)

2008-03-11 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
OK, here are the next steps for GSoC. - We need students who are willing to take up one of the projects listed on our wiki page (they can propose their own thing to us too, of course). Students who are interested should show their interest now. @all: If you know a promising student, let them know

[OSM-talk] Applied for Google Summer of Code

2008-03-11 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
OK, I have just submitted our application to Google SoC. We are in the pool. bobkare volunteered to act as backup admin in case I drop dread. Thanks for that. Let's see if this works out this year. I will probably be (nearly) non-reachable on WEdnesday and Thursday BTW, as I represent an

Re: [OSM-talk] Daily Planet-Files

2008-03-10 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Sven Anders wrote: Hi, the Daily planet Files are broken (again): See: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/daily/ [ ] daily-20080303-20080304.osc.bz2 04-Mar-2008 00:2014 [ ] daily-20080304-20080305.osc.bz2 05-Mar-2008 00:20 14 [ ] daily-20080305-20080306.osc.bz2

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-25 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
80n wrote: This would be an interesting thing to try. AFAIK its relatively easy to add a new layer to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] infrastructure and Osmarender could easily be adapted to render points from GPX files (perhaps using a pre-processor to convert GPX elements to OSM format nodes

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-01-16 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Robin Paulson wrote: On 14/01/2008, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would it make sense to create a new mailing list - say [EMAIL PROTECTED] or so - to which all tag proposals and requests for comments/votes could be directed, and reclaim talk@ for informal community chat? I am all

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] attributing cc by attribution data

2008-01-10 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Robin Paulson wrote: one possible problem i can see: it is a legal requirement of OSM to display that attribution and if the tag is editable by anyone, then it can be changed, either through malice, clumsiness or otherwise. this could lead to troublesome legal wrangles it's been talked

[OSM-talk] A0 or A1 OSM map poster and other conference stuff

2008-01-09 Per discussione Sebastian Spaeth
Hi guys, I will be manning an OSM stand at the next OpenExpo(.ch) in Bern, Switzerland in March. I need a poster for that. Unfortunately, I have forgotten how people have been creating these so far. There was a postscript renderer somewhere in CVS right? Or have people been using Mapnik