Paul Johnson wrote:
If it's no longer part of the ground truth, why try to map it? OSM
is in the now, after all.
Thus all the historic, old_name, end date, etc. tags...
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On 31.07.2010 20:58, Heiko Jacobs wrote:
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
May I ask why bother? OSM is not a historic map, am I right?. What use
do I have of the information that once here there was a railway when
there are no traces, nothing to be found, nothing to be feared?
There are a lot of things
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:59:53 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
For tagging the status of rail infrastructure there are in use:
I usually think it's good to look at existing practice by others.
On USGS maps, and in US legal usage:
out of service: rails still exist, but no trains. shown as
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:31:53 +0200, Michał Borsuk wrote:
On 28 July 2010 11:26, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:
Something like http://forum.openstreetmap.org
Definitely. Forum is way better than a mailing list, a threaded forum is
even better.
[citation needed]. There's nothing a
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:03:59 +0200, Michał Borsuk wrote:
Just a technical note, we'd need a server with some proper Forum-like
software, so that posts like the one below could be pinned.
Why not just update the wiki? Why needlessly complicate things with a
forum?
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:56:22 +0200, Heiko Jacobs wrote:
So this words don't satisfy me ...
I'm searching something like traceless, virtual, very, really very
abandoned, ...
Does anybody has an idea?
How about omitting the line entirely? If it's no longer part of the
ground truth, why try
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
Without getting too much into the linguistic issues, I'd support the
Swedish railway=historic_path for anything further than stillgelegt
(English abandoned?), that is either with track, or without, but not
yet turned into a bike path (or anything similar).
But let's
On 31 July 2010 10:06, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
Without getting too much into the linguistic issues, I'd support the
Swedish railway=historic_path for anything further than stillgelegt
(English abandoned?), that is either with track, or without, but not
On 31 July 2010 14:19, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On Saturday 31 July 2010 10:06:23 Heiko Jacobs wrote:
It seems, that no one else will comment here?
I think you don't get much comment because most mappers are too busy with
mapping stuff that is still there.
If we don't have some
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
I agree with your arguments. Then former?
former is a little bit non-specific.
A disused or abandoned railway may also be called former
Disappeared cannot be used, because it implies that the railway just
rolled itself and went home for Feierabend. Or a UFO took it one
On 31 July 2010 15:13, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
I agree with your arguments. Then former?
former is a little bit non-specific.
A disused or abandoned railway may also be called former
It's already called disused or abandoned.
I don't like
Cartinus schrieb:
I'm interested in railways too, so I find that interesting. Railways are
relative sparse, so it won't clutter the map much.
... and with the suitable tag it won't clutter the rendered slippy map
I don't like gaps. ;-)
A former railway between Ittersbach and Pforzheim I could
On 31 July 2010 16:18, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
A former railway between Ittersbach and Pforzheim I could map
90% because there are enough traces (gravel, embankments, cuttings,
bridges, ...) but 10% are levveled for farmland or residential
ares including buildings. But the
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
May I ask why bother? OSM is not a historic map, am I right?. What use
do I have of the information that once here there was a railway when
there are no traces, nothing to be found, nothing to be feared?
There are a lot of things inside OSM that for my opinion are
On Saturday 31 July 2010 20:58:59 Heiko Jacobs wrote:
Heiko Jacobs schrieb:
...
Sometimes the traces of a railway are very virtual:
...
Sometimes no trace exist anymore
...
For this I'm searching a word ...
If you don't map it, then you don't need the word - that is why you
-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Michal Borsuk
Sent: 28 July 2010 10:04
To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] totally abandoned rails
Just a technical note, we'd need a server with some proper Forum-like software,
so that posts like
David Peek schrieb:
How about using destroyed or perhaps levelled?
railway fans would say, that abandonede also looks very
destroyed for them ;-)
levelled seems to be a good idea.
I just played around in dict.leo.org again and found
vanished
as a another possible word.
vanished into thin air
On 28 July 2010 11:26, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:
Something like http://forum.openstreetmap.org
Definitely. Forum is way better than a mailing list, a threaded forum is
even better.
What needs to be done:
* creation of a subclass in the forum (name anybody? is Transit Talk OK,
or
Sorry, I mentioned it now, then. I don’t like web forums, so wouldn’t move if
the email list closed.
Ed
Definitely. Forum is way better than a mailing list, a threaded forum is even
better.
What needs to be done:
* creation of a subclass in the forum (name anybody? is Transit Talk
On 28.07.2010 12:06, Ed Loach wrote:
Sorry, I mentioned it now, then. I don’t like web forums, so wouldn’t
move if the email list closed.
Any sensible reasons for this?
LMB
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Michał Borsuk wrote:
What needs to be done:
* blocking new posts here, and leaving an automatic reply with the link
to the forum (can be done in the mailing list list administration page,
but must be done by the admin)
Why?
Mailing lists work extremely well (except for digests) gatewayed
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
Definitely. Forum is way better than a mailing list, a threaded forum is
even better.
I'm reading all OSM mailing lists threaded using thunderbird and
news.gmane.org
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On 28.07.2010 12:41, Heiko Jacobs wrote:
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
Definitely. Forum is way better than a mailing list, a threaded forum
is even better.
I'm reading all OSM mailing lists threaded using thunderbird and
news.gmane.org
Thanks!
...and the group is called
] On Behalf Of Michal Borsuk
Sent: 28 July 2010 11:20
To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] totally abandoned rails
On 28.07.2010 12:06, Ed Loach wrote:
Sorry, I mentioned it now, then. I don’t like web forums, so wouldn’t move if
the email list
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
levelled seems to be a good idea.
I'd stick to what is being used now.
There is be nothing official (noted in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:railway )
for vanished ;-) rails ...
There might be some undocumented tries to tag this spread over the whole
On 28.07.2010 14:56, Heiko Jacobs wrote:
Michał Borsuk schrieb:
levelled seems to be a good idea.
I'd stick to what is being used now.
There is be nothing official (noted in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:railway )
for vanished ;-) rails ...
There might be some undocumented tries to
Hello
For tagging the status of rail infrastructure there are in use:
- proposed or planned for rails not yet existing
- construction
- ... (nothing for rails in use)
- disused for existing rails not in use anymore
- abandoned (or sometimes dismantled) for rails not existing anymore, but
How about using destroyed or perhaps levelled? A logical name would be
historic, but I think using that would be dangerous as it might get
confused with a preserved/tourist railway.
--
David
On 27 July 2010 15:56, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
For tagging the status of rail infrastructure there are in use:
I usually think it's good to look at existing practice by others.
On USGS maps, and in US legal usage:
out of service: rails still exist, but no trains. shown as regular
rail on USGS maps. OSM has no aparent term for
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