Re: [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Andrew Harvey]

Yep you'll reach Victorian and Australian mappers better on talk-au as some
might not join the global talk list ->
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au.

I'll echo other's comments here, if you are planning or have done the
conflation I'd suggest sharing those results so the community can review
and share feedback.

On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 19:16, Phil Wyatt  wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> Given you are in Australia I would try the talk AU list as well. Maybe
> also the discord channels as there are a few Ozzie folks there in the
> Oceania channel with lots of transport experience.
>
> Cheers - Phil
> (On the phone so apologies for any typos)
>
> On 28 Sep 2022, at 6:36 pm, rob potter  wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I have read the guidelines.
>
> I'm in Victoria, Australia
>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, 28 Sept 2022, 18:07 Eugene Alvin Villar,  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I work for the state transport department
>>>
>>
>> Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but which state and which country?
>> Depending on the answer, there might be a local community that can help and
>> provide guidance as well with the conflation/import process.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eugene
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM rob potter  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I work for the state transport department and we are looking to become
>>> an active member of the community and as a first dataset we have focused on
>>> is our public transport stops, bus and tram initially and then stations.
>>>
>>> I would like your advice on how to achieve the outcome.
>>>
>>> There are a number of considerations:
>>>
>>>
>>>- Currently in the state there are ~9,100 highway:bus_stop
>>>   - our GTFS - stops.txt has ~27,000 stops
>>>   - the current accuracy of highway:bus_stop needs review.
>>>   - stops.txt location appears to be of a much better quality
>>>
>>> My initial thought was extract current, match data location, enrich what
>>> stops.txt has then create all new and remove existing as final step.
>>>
>>> I would guess there are people screaming NO!! if so, please advise
>>> of a viable way of making such a significant
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rob
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Re: [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Welcome to osm! Regarding the "remove existing as final step": we generally
expect people to conflate new data with existing data, so you should not
remove the existing ones, but enrich them (including position acuracy if
possible) with your data, and only create new objects for things that
weren't mapped before.

If you haven't yet, read the guidance for automated edits
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits and follow the import
guidelines https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi,

I work for the state transport department
>

Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but which state and which country?
Depending on the answer, there might be a local community that can help and
provide guidance as well with the conflation/import process.

Thanks,
Eugene


On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM rob potter  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I work for the state transport department and we are looking to become an
> active member of the community and as a first dataset we have focused on is
> our public transport stops, bus and tram initially and then stations.
>
> I would like your advice on how to achieve the outcome.
>
> There are a number of considerations:
>
>
>- Currently in the state there are ~9,100 highway:bus_stop
>   - our GTFS - stops.txt has ~27,000 stops
>   - the current accuracy of highway:bus_stop needs review.
>   - stops.txt location appears to be of a much better quality
>
> My initial thought was extract current, match data location, enrich what
> stops.txt has then create all new and remove existing as final step.
>
> I would guess there are people screaming NO!! if so, please advise of
> a viable way of making such a significant
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
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Re: [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Phil Wyatt]

Hi Rob,Given you are in Australia I would try the talk AU list as well. Maybe also the discord channels as there are a few Ozzie folks there in the Oceania channel with lots of transport experience. Cheers - Phil(On the phone so apologies for any typos)On 28 Sep 2022, at 6:36 pm, rob potter  wrote:Thanks for your reply.I have read the guidelines.I'm in Victoria, AustraliaRobOn Wed, 28 Sept 2022, 18:07 Eugene Alvin Villar,  wrote:Hi,I work for the state transport departmentSorry if I missed this somewhere, but which state and which country? Depending on the answer, there might be a local community that can help and provide guidance as well with the conflation/import process.Thanks,Eugene On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM rob potter  wrote:Hi,I work for the state transport department and we are looking to become an active member of the community and as a first dataset we have focused on is our public transport stops, bus and tram initially and then stations.I would like your advice on how to achieve the outcome.There are a number of considerations:Currently in the state there are ~9,100 highway:bus_stopour GTFS - stops.txt has ~27,000 stopsthe current accuracy of highway:bus_stop needs review.stops.txt location appears to be of a much better qualityMy initial thought was extract current, match data location, enrich what stops.txt has then create all new and remove existing as final step.I would guess there are people screaming NO!! if so, please advise of a viable way of making such a significant Regards,Rob
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