Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Troxel wrote: Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes: Why make this more complicated than it has to be? Leave the names on the underlying way, not the relations; leave the refs on the relations, not the underlying ways. Then it's a matter of fixing mapnik and t...@h to do the right

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Joseph Jon Booker
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:58:22 -0700 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Well, in some cases, because due to historical factors, some highways have the same name despite having radically different route references, and the names don't apply to the whole relation, but members of the relation.

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Greg Troxel
Richard Weait rich...@weait.com writes: On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 16:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Apollinaris Schoell wrote: It contains all you need to pick the correct sign. But you need the whole knowledge about signs for all states, county ... as an example California uses different

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: The US highways in California are really (I think) regular US highways, but CA uses a different kind of sign.  So tagging then us_us_ca seems again like tagging for the renderer.  This is sort of OK, perhaps, but it bothers me

Re: [Talk-us] Tools for importing National Hydrography Dataset?

2009-04-13 Thread Theodore Book
Sorry to be slow to the conversation. I have been importing the NHD data for Georgia, and have scripts that do the conversion for all of the NHD Ftypes that I have found so far. I have also prepared a version of polyshp2osm that converts areas to complex multipolygons, which allows a

Re: [Talk-us] Tools for importing National Hydrography Dataset?

2009-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Theodore Book tb...@libero.it wrote: Sorry to be slow to the conversation.  I have been importing the NHD data for Georgia, and have scripts that do the conversion for all of the NHD Ftypes that I have found so far.  I have also prepared a version of

[Talk-us] Tool to remove data?

2009-04-13 Thread Theodore Book
I have just gained access (and permission to import) some very good (and current) landuse data for the Metro Atlanta area. However, before, I do so, I need to remove / delete the data from the previous statewide landuse import for the relevant counties. It should be technically simple:

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 13 Apr 2009, at 5:36 , Adam Schreiber wrote: What about: addr:country=us addr:state=ca network=us or addr:country=us addr:state=ca network=i network should be US, I, all signs use uppercase, there can be so many uses for the data. network should reflect the real usage

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
I'm in danger of spending more time flaming than fixing the map, but have always been interested in the database schema aspect of OSM. Evolving tags is messier than a designed scheme, but I see the wisdom of how it avoids the wrong design persisting. Still, I think it may make sense to

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
The lower case has nothing to do with a renderer, just OSM convention for key value pairs other than name. network name is an officially documented and commonly used name. it should be treated like the name tag or the ref tag. how else could a renderer come up with the correct use if

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
Why make this more complicated than it has to be? Leave the names on the underlying way, not the relations; leave the refs on the relations, not the underlying ways. Then it's a matter of fixing mapnik and t...@h to do the right thing, since relations are set up better to handle

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: what is the best solution for another problem I have seen. navigation systems should use the name/ref on the signs. the names are never (rarely?) used for interstate and us routes. but commonly used for county routes (

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Highways Relations List

2009-04-13 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 13 Apr 2009, at 11:06 , Zeke Farwell wrote: Joseph Jon Booker said: My approach (and I don't know if you'll agree with this) is to considerPacific Highway something independent of I-5 or Oregon 99. Pacific Highway is more like its own designation for a highway, and ways which