Current state of affairs:
- North America is mostly complete. The bot is still working in Los
Angeles and Victoria (Canada). There are one or two failed or incomplete
areas which are marked in red on the progress map; these are being
retried individually. Haiti/Dominican Republic has been
* Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2012-07-19 00:42 -0500]:
Any other common problems that people have seen?
Probably the most common thing I've seen is what TIGER road splits look
like: one way (usually leading up to a bridge), followed by a string of
unconnected nodes. Fixing these is
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
[..]
Any other common problems that people have seen?
I get the road spaghetti in non-motorway settings too. Example in
Salt Lake:
Hello all,
The damage in LA is much more severe: missing segments of
freeways, roads gone.
I thought the bot was supposed to be smart enough to
subnstitute TIGER data when eliminating data by nonsigners. But that
has not been done. I am finding many streets (and not ones too
This is how a section of burbank looks today. Where are4 the
supposed TIGER streets??
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=34.10994lon=-118.26153zoom=17
Charlotte
Charlotte Wolter
927 18th Street Suite A
Santa Monica, California
90403
+1-310-597-4040
techl...@techlady.com
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
This is how a section of burbank looks today. Where are4 the
supposed TIGER streets??
How did you get the impression that the redaction bot was going to import?
Also, some mappers chose to wait until the
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
Hello all,
The damage in LA is much more severe: missing segments of freeways,
roads gone.
Rancho Cucamonga is still in progress. Ridgecrest will follow shortly
after and those should be the final two
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
Hello all,
The damage in LA is much more severe: missing segments of freeways,
roads gone.
I thought the bot was supposed to be smart enough to subnstitute
TIGER data when eliminating data by
Everyone,
Having looked over the damage and deletions for the last
hour, I feel the redaction has left the LA map essentially unusable.
Huge blocks of streets are missing, including major roads and some
sections of freeways.
Do we think that the US map can have any validity if
How did I get that idea? From other members who said that
data would be prerserved.
The reason I had to rely on reports from other members was
that there was no information from those doing the redaction. They
sent out no notices about what would be done or how it would be
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
Everyone,
Having looked over the damage and deletions for the last hour, I
feel the redaction has left the LA map essentially unusable. Huge blocks of
streets are missing, including major roads and some
Do you have any idea how big LA is? You can't just delete
huge sections of the San Fernando Valley and start over. Start over
from what? With no street names? That's just not feasible.
--C
At 08:37 AM 7/19/2012, you wrote:
Charlotte Wolter wrote:
Hello all,
The
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:02:29 PM Toby Murray wrote:
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
Everyone,
Having looked over the damage and deletions for the last hour, I
feel the redaction has left the LA map essentially unusable.
Toby Murray wrote:
The good news is that TIGER data is still available to help in
remapping. The TIGER 2011 tiles were recently discussed on
this mailing list:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TIGER_2011
Indeed: and Ian, Andy and I have this afternoon briefly discussed making
this
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM, James Umbanhowar jumba...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:02:29 PM Toby Murray wrote:
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
Everyone,
Having looked over the damage and deletions for the
Are there any tools like imagery layers so we can see what the redaction
bot _actually_ hit in detail? I didn't see anything on the wiki pages.
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Certainly the significant data loss in areas is suboptimal, and
reconstruction will take time.
It seems that significant challenges are identifying areas most impacted
and prioritizing reconstruction efforts.
Toby's post yesterday using the modified live edit bot osmZmiany seems a
good way to
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
This is very disappointing and, to my mind, wrongheaded. Poorly done!
When I see comments like this, I feel angry, because this bot came
from hard working volunteers who give up their valuable time. Not
only are
Charlotte Wolter wrote:
Do you have any idea how big LA is? You can't just delete
huge sections of the San Fernando Valley and start over. Start over
from what? With no street names? That's just not feasible.
--C
What I meant is, well... I use the awesome TIGER 2011 overlay
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.comwrote:
Everyone,
****Having looked over the damage and deletions for the last
hour, I feel the redaction has left the LA map essentially unusable. Huge
blocks of streets are missing, including major roads and
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.comwrote:
Do you have any idea how big LA is?
Do you have any idea how big the rest of the world is? It's not always
about LA, sister. Get over it and start fixing.
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Talk-us
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
So, are you volunteering? Anyone else?
Sure. I think I've already fixed up most of the bot damage in Kansas.
I will be contributing in other places as I have time. LA will
certainly be towards the top of my
Serge,
First, I am among the majority of OSM members who do not
program or write code. Yet, we also contribute, heavily. I don't
think writing code makes one some kind of special contributor.
Second, I am aware that many thousands of hours of
volunteeer work went into this. I
Jeremy,
Achtung! If only one could just fix it. Check it out for yourself.
I am still assuming that you are volunteering.
Charlotte
At 10:56 AM 7/19/2012, you wrote:
just stop this back and forth and start fixing the map. already this
morning i rebuilt part of the 91 / 71 and
Charlotte,
I was hoping when I saw your mail that you would have seen the words
you used in a different light and if not be apologetic, then at least
be understanding that these words have an effect on the community, as
well as on the individuals you've insulted.
Instead, you've decided to dig
At 2012-07-19 09:06, Robert Kaiser wrote:
Charlotte Wolter schrieb:
Having looked over the damage and deletions for the last hour,
I feel the redaction has left the LA map essentially unusable. Huge
blocks of streets are missing, including major roads and some sections
of freeways.
On 7/19/12, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote:
So, now, what can be done to fix it? Are there tools?
As previously mentioned, the best way is to actually visit these
places, take notes, and then use your favorite map editor to update
the map.
If you can't do that, or don't
[off-list]
At 2012-01-30 08:48, Martijn van Exel wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com
wrote: I have just saved one street in L.A. (Loosmore Street) and
hereby award myself one SLAPÂ (Save L.A. Point). [...] Hee, I'd love
to earn myself some SLAP
Uh, ignore this. I didn't mean it to go to the list, and, of course, didn't
realize it was 5 months old.
At 2012-07-19 12:58, Alan Mintz wrote:
[off-list]
At 2012-01-30 08:48, Martijn van Exel wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com
wrote: I have just
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
Any other common problems that people have seen?
Another thing I find is a lot of leftover stray nodes without any tags.
I select them in JOSM with type:node tags:0 -child and delete them in
one fell swoop.
--
do try to make more sense. like i said, this problem would go away
much faster if you would just go over to the osm and start rebuilding.
i have already done quite a bit today. how about you?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Charlotte Wolter
techl...@techlady.com wrote:
Jeremy,
* Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org [2012-07-19 14:22 -0600]:
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
Any other common problems that people have seen?
Another thing I find is a lot of leftover stray nodes without any tags.
I select them in JOSM with
And this time to the list... (cures you, lack of reply-to!)
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM, the Old Topo Depot
oldto...@novacell.com wrote:
Toby's post yesterday using the modified live edit bot osmZmiany seems a
good way to help focus on areas. Toby, do you think it possible to
serialize
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
* Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org [2012-07-19 14:22 -0600]:
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
Any other common problems that people have seen?
Another thing I find is a lot of
On 7/19/2012 1:42 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
Now that we're cleaning up after the license bot, what problems are
people seeing?
The biggest problem I have run into so far is the same 'foldback'
problem Kai saw. It's quite confusing when both sides of a dual
carriageway are folded back and
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:
On 7/19/2012 1:42 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
Now that we're cleaning up after the license bot, what problems are
people seeing?
The biggest problem I have run into so far is the same 'foldback' problem
Kai saw. It's quite
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:32 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote:
is anyone else noticing some ways have a name, a one way direction,
some other info, but no highway tag. so they dont actually render in
potlatch 2. the only reason i noticed them way due to the oneway
arrows being
Alan,
Touche! Yes, someone let us down and badly. Considering all
the work we did, to have this result is really dispiriting
We need some tools so we at least can assess what needs to
be done. Has anyone started to work on, as at least started to think
about, the tool
Phil,
Thanks for that info. But, why wasn't it sent out in a
general mailing to the members? Lots of people who work assiduously
on the maps can't stand the mailing lists (lots of sleep-inducing
argument about obscure details of tagging with no final resolution).
--C
At 01:41 PM
jerjozwik wrote:
is anyone else noticing some ways have a name, a one way
direction, some other info, but no highway tag. so they dont
actually render in potlatch 2. the only reason i noticed them
way due to the oneway arrows being drawn on top of the
satellite image.
Everything's
Charlotte Wolter wrote:
So, are you volunteering? Anyone else?
I spent a couple of hours this morning reworking the P2 source code so that
it can load the entire TIGER 2011 road files for LA County in one go without
crashing. So yeah, that counts as volunteering to fix it in a way, I think.
:)
On 19/07/2012 23:58, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
Richard,
I spent a couple of hours this morning reworking the P2 source code
so that it can load the entire TIGER 2011 road files for LA County
in one go without crashing.
That's great, but will it overwrite work that we've already done?
Also, is
* Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com [2012-07-19 15:58 -0700]:
That's great, but will it overwrite work that we've already
done?
Presumably not. Potlatch loads shapefiles into a separate layer and
requires mappers to manually pull the data into OSM.
Also, is this
At 2012-07-19 13:41, Phil! Gold wrote:
* Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org [2012-07-19 14:22 -0600]:
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com
wrote:
Any other common problems that people have seen?
Another thing I find is a lot of leftover stray nodes without any
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup
And this time to the list... (cures you, lack of reply-to!)
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM, the Old Topo Depot
oldto...@novacell.com wrote:
Toby's post yesterday using the modified live
ACH is 65% re-built. im tired and getting annoyed at the 2000 point
limit. someone else take over...
sorry for the direct email to the recipient as well...
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote:
Got it. Thanks for the explanation.
So,
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