Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 29.12.2012 03:22, Russ Nelson wrote: Here in the US where you aren't allowed to trespass on private property except on certain conditions, these line[s] in some government database MATTER to mappers and to map users. But surely there must be something on the ground that tells you where

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 29.12.2012 05:38, Russ Nelson wrote: The moment it makes its way in to OSM it becomes incorrect. There is *absolutely* no way to improve the data once it's in OSM, so it should not be in OSM. Period. That's a great theory, but I don't think many people subscribe to it. I

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-29 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: OSM is a big tent with room for lots of data and lots of opinions. You're right Russ, that there are a lot of strong opinions in the group, and that there's room for everyone's opinion in this matter. At the same time, when

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-29 Thread Russ Nelson
Frederik Ramm writes: I think that is more than a theory. Weren't you the one who proposed to import some kind of park boundaries, years ago, and implement mechanisms to make the geometry un-changeable - reasoning that any change being made by mappers could only be for the worse? Yes,

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-29 Thread Jason Woofenden
On 2012-12-29 12:11AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 28.12.2012 22:16, Jason Remillard wrote: So the question is, what should the exact criteria be for including an open space parcel in OSM. Consider some of the various types of property. I'd say anything that is observable on the ground

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-29 Thread Jason Woofenden
Un-surveyable data is a nuisance for everyone working with OSM data; except for those mappers which it empowers by telling said mappers where they are allowed to survey, and probably others. it disempowers the mapper who works with the data because they have to simply accept it as a fact if

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-29 Thread Michael Patrick
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 AM, talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: But surely there must be something on the ground that tells you where you can go and where you can't? Else how would people have evaded being shot in pre-satnav times? Actually, not. Sometimes there is a a 'No Trespass