Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Find missing roads

2015-10-13 Thread Greg Morgan
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > I'll look into it. > I don't know if this is the same issue. I noticed that there was a disconnect between the web map, http://www.improve-osm.org/missingRoads/#7/34.611/-109.797 , and Josm. The website showed just a

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Find missing roads

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > Martijn van Exel writes: > > Hi all, > > > > Our OSM team cooked up something new. A missing roads plugin for JOSM. I > > think it's pretty nice but I would really like to hear what you think. > > Something's wrong --

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: > Mike, > > I have not seen the Shoulder or Lanes tags in wide use yet. > I've seen lanes used quite a bit, especially after the maproulette for that, though rather haphazardly since people participating in that

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Mike Dupont wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > A hard shoulder is not a bike lane and should not be tagged as such. > > > If you look at the supporting document some sections

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Elliott Plack
I am now leaning towards the shoulder tag, and perhaps recommending that the routing tools consider that. In this case there is no official bike lane, just a shoulder. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 7:01 AM Mike Dupont wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Paul

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Elliott Plack wrote: > I am now leaning towards the shoulder tag, and perhaps recommending that > the routing tools consider that. In this case there is no official bike > lane, just a shoulder. > This is also my preferred solution, as

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Elliott Plack wrote: > I am now leaning towards the shoulder tag, and perhaps > recommending that the routing tools consider that. I'd be genuinely delighted to add shoulder support to cycle.travel when there's more than a trace number of shoulder tags present in the OSM database - missing

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Mike Dupont
These are used as an extra turning lane for cars, so going around corners can be dangerous for cyclists or joggers or walkers who all share them. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Jack Burke wrote: > Wait, question: > > Are these shoulder lanes under discussion *only* for

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > A hard shoulder is not a bike lane and should not be tagged as such. If you look at the supporting document some sections are declared as bikable by the city planning. there are share the road signs in some areas. I am

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > cycleway=lane I think these are just shoulders used for biking not bike lanes. I have not seen any bike lanes so far. -- James Michael DuPont Kansas Linux Fest http://kansaslinuxfest.us Free/Libre Open Source and Open

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Mike Dupont
Take a look at this map of the area http://www.dvrpc.org/asp/bikemercer/ It would not be used as a source, but it gives you an idea of what people call bike-able around here. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Elliott Plack wrote: >> I am now

Re: [Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

2015-10-13 Thread Jim McAndrew
Sorry for the google maps links on this, but I've found NJ's use of shoulders (or "curb lanes") as bike lanes kind of strange. I would tag this as cycleway=lane but nothing for shoulder. For example: (note the trash can in the "lane")

Re: [Talk-us] Best iOS app for GPS wander, GPX to laptop into OSM?

2015-10-13 Thread stevea
I want to say Thank You to all who replied. I/we are still evaluating the softwares suggested, and while "free" (as in beer) wasn't mentioned (and is an appreciated feature!) some of the software which costs a modest price ($1.99) also seem worthy of consideration. This research helps me/us

Re: [Talk-us] Map Roulette Idea - GNIS "parks"

2015-10-13 Thread Russell Deffner
Mike and all, >There is also a "North Park" (on CO 14 West of Cameron Pass). Yep and Middle Park which is maybe replicated in other states and I’m sure there are these geographic parks in many mountain ranges. >I have always considered these "parks" to have no hard boundary (sort of like

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Find missing roads

2015-10-13 Thread Eric Ladner
I see some just north of Utica. dozens of dots over all of New York if I zoom out. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 3:52 AM Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > >> Martijn van Exel writes: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Our OSM

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Find missing roads

2015-10-13 Thread Martijn van Exel
I'll look into it. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:18 PM Russ Nelson wrote: > Eric Ladner writes: > > I see some just north of Utica. dozens of dots over all of New York > if I > > zoom out. > > Weird. I fixed some north of Utica. Are your dots possibly cached? Is > my lack of

Re: [Talk-us] Downgrading 'motorways' around toll plazas?

2015-10-13 Thread Russ Nelson
Paul Johnson writes: > Not looking at this specific example, I might consider a a split to > multiple roadways between the medians and a potential downgrade to > motorway_link for gates that expect you to stop (such as cash/coin gates > versus ETC gates) or are primarily used to toll an

Re: [Talk-us] Downgrading 'motorways' around toll plazas?

2015-10-13 Thread Tod Fitch
That is possible. And a fix in Osmand is relatively easy (edit routing.xml to set the assumed/default *_link speed to about 1/2 that of the assumed/default speed of associated non-link way). Can be further improved by setting all the assumed speeds to match the real world defaults in your part

Re: [Talk-us] Downgrading 'motorways' around toll plazas?

2015-10-13 Thread Russ Nelson
Jack Burke writes: > The Florida Turnpike is a toll road (highway=motorway in OSM) with a > standard 70 mph speed limit that drops to 25 mph a few dozen yards before > the toll plazas (even for SunPass users). Having driven on it for years, I > would never consider any section of it to be