[Talk-us] Be Counted! (as an OSMF Member)

2018-11-14 Thread alyssa wright
Hi all! Now that we have last week’s election behind us (sort of) we have another one just around the corner.  If you haven’t heard already, the international OpenStreetMap Foundation elections are happening December 15 and you *need* to be a member by ... TOMORROW to vote. Did you

[Talk-us] OSMF Elections

2018-11-14 Thread Jonah Adkins
Hello OSM-ers! On behalf the OpenStreetMap US Board, I’d like to encourage everyone to become a member of the OpenStreetMap Foundation and participate in the upcoming elections. Joining the foundation helps keep the OpenStreetMap servers up and running around the world. Among many other

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
I've seen 25or6to4's work, I am impressed. Furthermore, I've asked him (off-list) if he would be willing to share his work more widely (here on talk-us), as it may "spark" a wider launch into the sort of clean-up of tiger:LSAD=57 data I've been waiting to see happen. (Their

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, User 25or6to4 contacted me offline mentioning that he has been working on improving boundaries based on newer TIGER for the past months now. That, taken together with the boundless (ha) energy exuding from this thread, makes me have a very happy boundary-positive attitude! I’m not

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Carl Anderson is correct: what is in the map from TIGER about LSAD is true and affords the possibly to derive geo data about incorporated entities (in some cases, where they haven't been deleted), although the data (being somewhere between 11 and 13 years old) may not be accurate, given

[Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
A lot of people have (quickly) chimed in about this; political boundaries, admin_level and cities extending into counties usually gets to be a "hot" topic as people have a lot to say or strong opinions on these. I and others recognized this years ago and what has emerged in OSM are two wikis,

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Kevin Kenny
And another reminder: sparsely populated areas of the US may have indefinite boundaries simply because nobody ever troubled to survey and monument them. New York has a few county lines and a good many township lines like that. They get resolved when and if there's a dispute. The tax revenue from

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:07 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hmm. > > I guess https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_admin_level is > really not correct then where it says: "Census Designated Places (CDPs) are > boundaries maintained by the Census Bureau for statistical purposes. CDPs >

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 10:46 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > I looked at a few place boundaries in Utah and compared with current TIGER > files.. Definitely needs work.. > https://www.dropbox.com/s/e1113me8y9t1my5/Screenshot%202018-11-14%2008.42.30.png?dl=0 > (colored > = current OSM, grey =

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Ian Dees
Nope, I'm saying all those wiki pages are correct. CDPs are boundaries for statistical purposes, not city boundaries. But I agree there are too many wiki pages :). On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 10:04 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hmm. > > I guess

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hmm. I guess https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_admin_level is really not correct then where it says: "Census Designated Places (CDPs) are boundaries maintained by the Census Bureau for statistical purposes. CDPs

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Johnson
Looks about right. There's examples of this sort of thing all over... heck, there's some cities that straddle state lines. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 07:47 Hi, > > are there cities (admin level 8) in the USA which part of two counties? > > see:

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Ian Dees
A friendly reminder that Census's TIGER data we have previously imported as admin8 polygons aren't actually official city boundaries. They're "Census Designated Places " which are just named "concentrations of people". In some cases the Census

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 11/14/18 07:46, wambac...@posteo.de wrote: > are there cities (admin level 8) in the USA which  part of two counties? I'm pretty sure parts of Houston, TX, extend past the Harris County boundaries. -- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

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Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
Sorry that link is bad. https://cloud.rtijn.org/s/ZLen9D8M3tYaAgj > On Nov 14, 2018, at 8:44 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > I looked at a few place boundaries in Utah and compared with current TIGER > files.. Definitely needs work.. >

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
I looked at a few place boundaries in Utah and compared with current TIGER files.. Definitely needs work.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/e1113me8y9t1my5/Screenshot%202018-11-14%2008.42.30.png?dl=0 (colored =

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Kerry Irons
And let’s never forget College Corner, OH/IN. It is in three counties and two states. It has two different zip codes. But really, it is two separate towns -College Corner OH and West College Corner IN. And of course Delmar and Mardel along the Delaware/Maryland state line. Just to keep

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Minnesota has around 40 cross-county cities, most of which have just a small portion in the second county. St. Cloud is notable for being in three counties! https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/137238 On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:01 AM Clifford Snow wrote: > Yes - a city can cover more than one

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Yes. New York City has several counties within its borders. I believe Houston and several other cities in Texas cross county borders. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:08 PM Adam Franco wrote: > Last summer there was a big thread Differences with USA admin_level > tagging >

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
Thanks for pointing it out, Walter. As others have said, local admin boundaries and their hierarchies are weird from a European perspective. I am still trying to understand it. The boundary may still be wrong. Many (all?) of the admin8 boundaries were imported almost 10 years ago. I wouldn’t

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Clifford Snow
Yes - a city can cover more than one county in the US. I'm not familiar with your example, but we have Bothell, WA which is in both King and Snohomish County. Best, Clifford On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 5:47 AM wrote: > Hi, > > are there cities (admin level 8) in the USA which part of two

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Josh Lee
I can think of at least six examples in Pennsylvania off the top of my head: Trafford, McDonald, Shippensburg, Seven Springs, Telford, Falls Creek. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 08:49 Hi, > > are there cities (admin level 8) in the USA which part of two counties? > > see:

Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

2018-11-14 Thread Adam Franco
Last summer there was a big thread Differences with USA admin_level tagging that talked a lot about odd cases in the US. As one example, Kevin Kenny pointed out

Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)

2018-11-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Thank you all for the helpful discussion. I have now split California in a northern and southern part along the recommended counties. Let's see how long it takes until the parts grow too big again! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"