Re: [Talk-us] Contacting local mappers or posting a note to "mappers in area". How to. Etiquette. Horseshoe Bend, ID,

2017-08-31 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The Mozilla service is fine for general location requests, such as ensuring you're searching the right area for Yelp!. Actually mapping towers is much harder. Many rural Verizon towers broadcast correct latitude and longitude. For the rest there's no location data, or fake location data. A

[Talk-us] Contacting local mappers or posting a note to "mappers in area". How to. Etiquette. Horseshoe Bend, ID,

2017-08-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I know about map notes. Are there other ways I could post a bulletin message mappers in a given region might see and react to? Here it is not directly an OSM mapping task, so a map note seems inappropriate. But it's a task a local mapper would be perfect for, and it's no big deal. Is there such

Re: [Talk-us] Municipal Tree Survey

2016-09-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Does your small city have a GIS system, or GIS specialist? Best to coordinate with what they're doing if possible. On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Adam Old wrote: > Hello all, I am a fairly novice mapper, although I am learning quickly. > This is my first post to talk-us,

Re: [Talk-us] Maxweight in the USA

2015-11-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I feel that all measurements recorded in OSM should include units. And that measurements should be in local units. A while back the Carter administration tried to force the metric system on the USA, which resulted in signs like: elevation 4000 feet 1219.20 meters Teaching people of course

Re: [Talk-us] Increasing the number of US Mappers

2015-10-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > Martijn's recent diary post "How can we double the number of active > mappers in the US in a year?" > "Bigger tent" by "adding rooms". Make it easier for specialist communities to find the map, and bring mappers.

Re: [Talk-us] Should driveways be on OSM?

2015-10-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Paul and Kevin say I should fix them. Easily said, but there are are too many > and there are whole towns needing alignment, and endless roads connecting > them that don't remotely resemble reality. No data is better

Re: [Talk-us] Should driveways be on OSM?

2015-09-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Tom Bloom wrote: > I've been deleting them if wildly wrong, and would like to delete all I > encounter. Any ideas? > When an area of tiger data has dozens of such driveways, which bear basically random correspondence with air photos,

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I too tried this task, and it marked as complete tasks that I was not able to finish. The moment I pressed the key to load in JOSM, the task was marked as done. It never loaded in JOSM either. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

2015-06-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
In other words, it won't route over a rural road tagged as highway=residential tiger:reviewed=no Most of the well reviewed Tiger I see still has this tag. People don't know to delete it. The automatic delete on edit does not apply to tiger:reviewed (it applies to a Tiger tag

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: The readme tag is more of a bandaid. A better way might be to capture the image date as a tag. The editor could then issue a warning message if the image date is older than the feature being modified. The readme

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest nature_reserve?

2015-06-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_areas_of_the_United_States Keep in mind that BLM, National Forest and National Parks can all have *wilderness* areas that are have stricter limits than the wider reserve. National lands are rarely monolithic: neither landcover nor conservation

Re: [Talk-us] Truck stop gas stations as caravan_site

2015-06-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I was wondering if it is appropriate to tag truck stops with tourism=caravan_site. I've noticed a lot of them tagged this way, presumably because many of the truck stop chains allow overnight parking of RVs, some

Re: [Talk-us] Strange changeset found

2015-05-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The mapper in question is still active, with reasonable edits. So it looks like a mistake, or a newbie mistake. Revert anyway. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Peculiar values for natural key in California

2015-05-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:17 AM, Jerry Clough - OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I have just been looking through the long tail of natural values and natural=K2156 stuck out like a sore thumb. These seem all to be nodes imported around 2009 roughly around Salinas :

[Talk-us] More bicycle tool stands

2015-05-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I've uploaded more bicycle tool stands under: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Dero_Bike_Repair Each of these comes from a vendor dataset, collected via cell phone gps. A note has been added asking local mappers to help position the pins exactly. Hundreds of these have been field

[Talk-us] New MapRoulette Challenge: Website Mismatch: Give it a try

2015-05-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
This is a website keyword matcher. For example a website associated with name=Cafe Fanny/phone=555-1212 would be expected to have at least the words Cafe, Fanny, or a matching phone number. The match is fuzzy. Any website with no match is flagged for human review. These are often: - Spam

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette Challenge: Website Mismatch: Give it a try

2015-05-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
This is a website keyword matcher. For example a website associated with name=Cafe Fanny/phone=555-1212 would be expected to have at least the words Cafe, Fanny, or a matching phone number. The match is fuzzy. Any website with no match is flagged for human review. These are often: - Spam

Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Amtrak Northeast Regional to Norfolk?

2015-04-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
My experience with Amtrak is they don't always know. I remember a conductor having a series of phone calls with dispatch about routing, and seeing him relay new routes up to the engineer. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] perceptions of OHM and other similar projects

2015-04-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: The problem, as I see it, is that railroads are a contiguous whole. Yet some people seem to think that a railroad should be shopped up along its length, with part of it appearing in OSM (where you can see it on the ground),

Re: [Talk-us] Importing Tesla Superchargers

2015-04-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Charles Samuels o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote: On Monday, April 13, 2015 05:01:39 PM Bryce Nesbitt wrote: You'll need to call someone at Tesla to get a better answer: an email has only a low chance of getting a response. what department do you suggest I

Re: [Talk-us] Importing Tesla Superchargers

2015-04-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Charles Samuels o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote: I'll see those in the changesets I produce. No, as you've described your process, you won't see those OSM mapper changes at all, because they won't show up in your overpass query. You're jumping into an area

Re: [Talk-us] Importing Tesla Superchargers

2015-04-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Charles Samuels o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Keith Winkler keith.wink...@redshiftsoft.com To: Charles Samuels char...@derkarl.org Cc: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:00:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Importing into

Re: [Talk-us] North Carolina Outer Banks

2015-04-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Eric Christensen e...@christensenplace.us wrote: I suspect the requester is looking specifically for something called Outer Banks on the map. As someone who grew up down in that area I can tell you that there is no such place. The Outer Banks, or OBX, is

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I feel the OSM project is missing a major opportunity to find mappers, by focusing on finding mappers. Instead find enthusiasts for . It could be RV toilets, street art, abandoned railways (ahem), free book stands, fairy houses, whatever. OSM is far behind

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: But if you can't discover them while on the ground, eg if there's been a building placed over it, if the area has been paved over, or is now used as a field, then I see two problems: 1. It's not possible to validate

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:14 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: I am much more worried about imports for a completely different reason, and that is data maintenance If the external data were not imported, but kept in a separate external-data layer, the situation could be

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: On the ground, meanwhile, you'd tend to find no trespassing signs on railbanked ROWs, no? In general, no. Trespassing signs tend to appear on encroachments (where neighbours are using the railroad right of way without

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: On 03/31/2015 08:04 AM, Natfoot wrote: There is so many situations where to his naked eye on the ground he may not be able to see it. To a person like myself I can still find the signs on the earth of where the

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us wrote: I'd imagine that most railbanked rights of way would be mapped with railway=disused (inactive tracks, possibly overgrown) or railway=abandoned (no tracks but an embankment, greenway, or clearing still present), as

Re: [Talk-us] Tesla Supercharger import

2015-03-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Charles Samuels o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote: I am not subscribed to imports, please CC me directly. To engage in the process fully, you'll need to subscribe. I have not yet asked Tesla Motors for their permission, I have a hard time believing it'd be

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-03-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: I happened to be near one of these today, and I had to move it about 8 meters. REVERT! (not really, just kidding) ... My only comment about this import would be that I don't think that it is useful to accompany an import with

Re: [Talk-us] Elevation in local units

2015-03-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Lars Ahlzen l...@ahlzen.com wrote: By the way, I thought that the wiki page for ele *used* to say that other units than m were acceptable (if explicitly specified) but I may be confusing it with something else, like width? FYI: There's a wiki template that

Re: [Talk-us] Boundaries and verifiability (was Re: Retagging hamlets in the US)

2015-03-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us wrote: I've taken quite a few imported municipal boundaries, lined them up with road easements or hedges between farms _when that is obviously the intent_, and deleted extra nodes. These borders become far more accurate

Re: [Talk-us] Elevation in local units

2015-03-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
- I feel that osm convention should encourage all mappers to specify units (e.g. 22 m). - That whitespace should be allowed (e.g. 22m, 22 m, or even 22 meters). - And that local units should be encouraged (e.g. 22 feet, or 22' 0). The wiki templates, if spruced up, could define the

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-03-22 4:00 GMT+01:00 Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us: At its most basic, OSM is a geospatial database. We have countries, states, counties, and cities. Why not neighborhoods. OSM tells where a

Re: [Talk-us] Boundaries and verifiability (was Re: Retagging hamlets in the US)

2015-03-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The nice thing about mapping a neighborhood name as a point feature is: a) It helps people locate the neighborhood b) it completely sidesteps the question of the exact, possibly fuzzy, boundaries. For 10% of the hassle you map 90% of the benefit. ___

Re: [Talk-us] Boundaries and verifiability (was Re: Retagging hamlets in the US)

2015-03-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Except when it reports you are in a different neighborhood than you actually are. A point feature does not imply a radius. A governmental defined neighborhood boundary is totally mappable at the right admin level,

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: Now OSM is the only map where you cannot locate Bender's Corner. It looks like it might be a nice area. http://berkeley-heights-real-estate.com/home-sales-berkeley-heights-nj-new-jersey/ 110 Diamond Hill Rd Benders

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Would you put bender's corner on a map today? If the barrier to cleaning is too great, not enough cleaning will happen. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging (in general)

2015-03-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: My initial reaction to any automated edit is to break out in a rash. I don't have the same reaction. A long time ago I added building=entrance

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I don't see a problem with access=private as this could be handy for micromapping a property. access=public should probably be access=yes. The tagging proposal to date imagined only the shared dump stations of the

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: A caravan site might have 200 private hookups. We don't want the hookups to be rendered at the same level as the central dump station. Backyard

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:04 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: As a tagged property of a mapped place (e.g. campground, store, fuel station), without a specific position. Probably not as this is almost certainly too vague. There are already hundreds of those, mostly in New

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote: Brand new anonymous users come to the map every day and are confused by what these hamlets are. proof: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/163246 I kind of doubt this person is going to stick around and improve the map.

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: My initial reaction to any automated edit is to break out in a rash. Can we use that image to promote mapping best practices? :-) Goal: A new local mapper in each BadHamlet Here's what I did with bike repair stations:

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:07 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Are there any rendering packages that can be set to render private objects for only a preset list of operator tag values? So, if an association of recreational vehicle owners has waste disposal stations only for

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I'm in favor of a bulk edit for US hamlets within city boundaries to be retagged as place=neighbourhood I generally agree with this, as a first step. Especially if there's a followup challenge of some sort to improve the

Re: [Talk-us] Weigh stations on Interstates

2015-03-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Also present near the USA mexican border are immigration check stations, where border patrol agents profile passengers and drivers based on race, and may ask for identification. In some places these are mobile stations, others have mappable fixed infrastructure. Typically all vehicles must stop.

Re: [Talk-us] Weigh stations on Interstates

2015-03-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Problem is, as we've observed on what's starting to feel like a weekly basis here, there are no rational national assumptions, when in doubt, tag it anyway. I think we've also observed that more people map than fix:

Re: [Talk-us] Weigh stations on Interstates

2015-03-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
While one could get into access tags for weigh stations, it seems like it would create as many problems as it solves. -- A weigh station in the USA is a mandatory stop for heavy goods vehicles, and prohibited entry for everyone else. Heavy goods vehicles with special equipment can bypass the

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
To be clear, I encourage people to get involved in all open proposals, not just the one: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Proposed_features_%22Voting%22 The voting process helps to refine tagging proposals: they often get better during the process.

[Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Please consider participating in the wiki voting for: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station These sites have various names including dump station, dump point, caravan dump station, sanitary station, Elsan disposal point (UK), pumpout, and chemical dump point

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-03-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:34 PM, an UK mapper wrote wrote: Way back when, Bryce wrote: The locations need local mapping to get the location perfect. Are you intending to feed these local changes back to the data source? Will the import involve deleting any repair stations in OSM not in the

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: 2) Given the audience at DC, I'd say you'll need a beginners track. So many people I met there had no understanding of how to do a foot survey, and no understanding of why that is the most valuable and interesting data

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
To make this simpler, for now I propose to mechanically delete the tags: fixme=stream␣attibutes␣missing stream=fixme From several stream imports in the USA. Does anyone have comment or considerations for that proposal (beyond the usual mechanical edit policy)?

Re: [Talk-us] Why does the USA currently lag in OSM map quality?

2015-02-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Here's an example of a specific feature type bringing a new mapper to OSM: https://bicycletrax.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/campuses-with-the-most-bike-repair-stations/ A modicum of guerrilla mapping can have a huge effect. A few athletic fields and building outlines can quickly snowball into

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
21, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: I'm ready to start this import: the input to date has been carefully considered and adjustments made. I'm intending to add notes for locations where the press releases are insufficiently specific to correctly position the node

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm ready to start this import: the input to date has been carefully considered and adjustments made. I'm intending to add notes for locations where the press releases are insufficiently specific to correctly position the node. Often, the press releases are specific enough, but not always. The

Re: [Talk-us] Why does the USA currently lag in OSM map quality?

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Here are two examples of mapping communities NOT in OSM: http://labyrinthlocator.com/ http://www.sanidumps.com/ To help find USA http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/148838 mappers: I've resolved to start including links to OSM in any location related email I send :-).

Re: [Talk-us] Why does the USA currently lag in OSM map quality?

2015-02-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
A modicum of guerrilla mapping can have a huge effect. A few athletic fields and building outlines can quickly snowball into almost every building and driveway in town. [2] Try this: In the course of your everyday life, when you describe a meeting place to someone via email, send them a

Re: [Talk-us] Why does the USA currently lag in OSM map quality?

2015-02-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed, Mapillary is great. I wonder if there's room to get GoPro+Mapillary to donate a few units to put together a rig that we could ship around to people in the US that could collect data for the US community...

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing your mapping project. Regards, Greg

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
How about this: particularly in the case of two businesses within one building polygon, create non-building area's for the business tags. Then you get the sense of scale of the business, and preserve the free tagging of the building polygon. ___

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing your mapping project. Regards, Greg Greg; There are five locations shown on the Arizona State University Tempe campus. Could you ground truth those? ___

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
even on the best available air photos (e.g. better than the Bing ones). Even the street cameras are not generally enough: this really takes in person spotting. Any more comment / objection? On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: To summarize: a proposed import

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
This seems to be tagging for the renderer which is not a good idea. If the only thing occupying the building is a single POI, then put the POI tags on the closed Way for the building outline. By adding a new object (Node) for the POI, you are also going against the One feature, one OSM

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-09 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
. Regards, Greg On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com javascript:; wrote: To summarize: a proposed import of of bicycle repair stations. The database is maintained

[Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
To summarize: a proposed import of of bicycle repair stations. The database is maintained by a vendor of bicycle repair stations, the data quality is spot on in many cases, and geocoding level in other cases with the pins generally in the right area. The stations are too small to find on an air

[Talk-us] Proposed import: Bicycle Repair Stations, Mostly in the USA

2015-01-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Head over to imports-us for the discussion. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Dero_Bike_Repair is the proposal page. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] access road routing - two real world cases

2015-01-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I would tag *access=destination* here, and hope routers don't use that route unless the way is within the bounding box (or at least near) to my destination. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Misspelled names

2014-12-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Note that for shops with a website, KeepRight loads the website and matches the name. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missing something. Possible solutions include a

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging a seasonally closed roads with uncertain spring opening

2014-11-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Paper maps handle this with Closed in winter. access=seasonal seems the tagging equivalent. Then, perhaps, if actual dates are announced they could be coded: access:announced_opening=20140501 A router may key off access=seasonal to warn people that a closure date needs to be checked for.

[Talk-us] Help with revert : Drag moved street in Denver

2014-09-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I did a partial revert of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/25206929#map=18/39.75833/-105.03600layers=D Using JOSM. Would someone take a peek at this: it's my first revert, and a second set of eyes would be nice. The original edit dragged a road, disconnecting at multiple points.

Re: [Talk-us] Help with revert : Drag moved street in Denver

2014-09-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: usually disconnections shouldn't happen by a simple drag. At least in JOSM (but I believe also in the other editors), you'd have to actively disconnect the nodes. What I found was a road that remained

Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)

2014-09-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno 06/set/2014, alle ore 07:24, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com ha scritto: BUT ANY OF THESE can be primary, secondary, tertiary or residential. No, the ones that are too narrow (motorcycle

Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)

2014-09-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I see rural roads breaking down fairly neatly: - Paved - Unpaved improved - Track - ATV/Narrow vehicle only (the United States Forest Service defines this as 50 body width or less) - Single track (e.g. Motorcycle) - Trail - Closed to some combination of

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] [Imports] fleet manager speed limit import proposal (Canada, USA)

2014-04-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Keep in mind when collecting fleet speed limits: in many places HGV's have a different limit than other traffic. For example the Interstates in California USA are generally 65 mph general/55 mph trucks. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

2014-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote: I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think any normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its hard to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessive

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-02-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Sebastian Arcus s.ar...@open-t.co.uk wrote: All of that doesn't really exist in the US, if my knowledge serves me right. Even the smallest of settlements (bigger than a farm) seemed to have started in the US around a group of facilities, such as shops,

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I generally copy the tags to the boundary (in JOSM copy the node, then paste tags into the way). The tiger and gnis tags do not overlap. The GNISID is a particularly useful tag to preserve. Town vs. City is a matter of opinion. You can visit the municipal website and use whatever term they use

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: terms like town and city generally have specific legal meanings in the US, and those meanings vary from state to state. this is one where in all likelyhood you should leave it to a local mapper, or consult with a

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: terms like town and city generally have specific legal meanings in the US, and those meanings vary from state to state. this is one where in all likelyhood you should leave it to a local mapper, or consult with a

Re: [Talk-us] Any foursquare/OSM editing update? How about Craigslist?

2014-01-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Thanks for that Randy. Echoing your themes: the global home page, and especially the US home page, do seem to assume people will jump right into general purpose mapping. The underlying assumption seems to be 'if *they* only had known OSM exists, they'd become dedicated mappers'. I think there

Re: [Talk-us] Semi-spammy sorta-helpful edit: how to handle

2014-01-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I ran into something similar: a note tag entered a week ago by user Noram (near a new node with name= Noram Auto Repair) which simply listed Repair and service of Japanese, and American made automobiles and trucks. Let's do better than that at http://www.noramautorepairservices.com/ But

Re: [Talk-us] Quick intro and request to contribute

2014-01-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
And I encourage you to ask is this a one time import or an ongoing import? For your speed data a one time import might be OK. For something like store locations, which change all the time, the data might just get stale in OSM. The proper term for matching up data like this is 'conflation', and

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS updating

2014-01-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote: If you find a problematic GNIS node (especially natural feature), you should consider sending an email to gnis_mana...@usgs.gov as

Re: [Talk-us] SPUI mapping

2013-09-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I am looking for opinions on how to map these complex interchanges. Could a few of you have a look at what I did and comment? Thanks. Thinking out loud: A SPUI is conceptually simple from a routing perspective: from all input roads you can turn left, right or go straight. The complexity

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-09-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I would like to suggest that the editors remove the following tags entirely: gnis:ST_num gnis:ST_alpha gnis:feature_type... Unless there are serious objections I plan to open a pull request adding listed tags to

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-09-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Here's a patch to JOSM to warn the human editor about tags that are about to disappear. What do you think? --- src/org/openstreetmap/josm/gui/dialogs/properties/PropertiesDialog.java (revision 6232) +++ src/org/openstreetmap/josm/gui/dialogs/properties/PropertiesDialog.java (working copy) @@

Re: [Talk-us] map data error page at gps.gov

2013-09-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
, perhaps: -- From: Jason Y. Kim jason.kim++gps.gov Thanks for the suggestion. We'll add that link when we update the page. Jason Y. Kim Webmaster, www.gps.gov On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Bryce Nesbitt

Re: [Talk-us] map data error page at gps.gov

2013-09-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Well, maybe with a little encouragement with Jason Y. Kim is in order. If someone edited the page and sent him text, for example... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Postal Code Extract (zip vs zcta)

2013-09-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 9/4/13 7:16 AM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: From the page which Bryce referred to in http://lists.openstreetmap.**

Re: [Talk-us] Putting businesses on OSM with onosm.org

2013-08-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I found when accepting water fountain data from non-mappers that... most of it was good... but I really had to flip through each node to find the newbie mistakes. I think onosm would produce a lot of good data that would be better hand curated as it enters osm proper.

[Talk-us] Seeking 3 volunteers (to send their votes down on toilets).

2013-08-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Would three kind souls take the time to vote at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets To bring the total to 15 voters? Thanks! (I welcome anyone interested in counting the seated capacity of toilets to then make a subsequent proposal)

[Talk-us] Shining example of OSM use, tarnished.

2013-08-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Dear US OSM enthusiasts: Out Whitehouse is using OpenStreetMap: http://www.whitehouse.gov/change Uses CloudMade tiles and OpenLayers to display a... broken map... with broken images. I've emailed the whitehouse webmaster without effect. Is anyone aware of how this map came to be placed here,

Re: [Talk-us] Cemeteries in OSM?

2013-07-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: Are there Smartphone apps that can do this with the help of their accelerometer? Some other type of hardware? I could point you to the professional equipment that can do this. On the cheap though, consider using a laser

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:51 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: ** I might be the nicest person you have ever met, I hope I am a good OSM mapper, and I am kind to children and animals. However, I vehemently oppose OSM collecting any additional personally-identifiable data. My

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I don't know which OSM board but the OSMF board certainly didn't. The contrary is the case: http://www.openstreetmap.org/**user_blocks/369http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/369 I think it is time to follow this

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/7/27 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com I think it is *also* time to create a supportable sustainable strategy for future researchers or grad students. IMHO our data including all history is public

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