Re: [Talk-us] Mapping for emergency services

Just a general remark: we have active fire fighters contributing and using OSM in many places around the globe maybe it's time for a global exchange of ideas and a common forum for that? Simon PS: unluckily HOT and FOSM are already taken so a acronym will need some work :-) Am 4. Februar

Re: [Talk-us] Website showing the best time to survey with GPS.

The answer the OP was looking for is likely https://www.gnssplanning.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping rail trails

Am 24. Juni 2019 19:18:26 MESZ schrieb Greg Troxel : >One wonders how RTC squares this decision with their legal obligation >to >act in the public interest. Not sharing data at all to get "related >income" to fund their operation is one thing, but sharing with Google >while not with OSM

Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)

Jumping in here slightly unwarranted, but what the heck :-). I think the question is less where N vs S California is but more if there is a regional split of California that would make sense from a processing pov. Is for example somebody likely to do something with a North-CA extract, or if you

Re: [Talk-us] NYC Name Vandalism

t; automatically pulled into a local copy? > > (If a changeset has been reviewed by a second person - can that > information be provided). > > All I want is something that allows me to be a little bit more > conservative in accepting edits, without requiring complex processes > or l

Re: [Talk-us] NYC Name Vandalism

osmcha (osmcha.mapbox.com) already does most of this. While detecting vandalism in general is difficult, edits like those in question are easy to detect and small in number. IMHO it really isn't an issue with openstreetmap in this case, as even with the delay (somebody reported the user in

Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 127, Issue 11

>> in Price George...) (Robert Yaklin) >>3. Re: Slack: Do we need an Alternative (was Planning an import >> in Price George...) (Marc Gemis) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:47:27 +0200 >> From:

Re: [Talk-us] Slack: Do we need an Alternative (was Planning an import in Price George...)

Am 10.06.2018 um 05:21 schrieb Bryan Housel: >> I'm also interested in how others feel about Slack. Is it good for the >> community or should we look elsewhere? > Glad you asked! I think Slack has changed the way I work for the better. > > Here are some advantages.. > * lower barrier to entry

Re: [Talk-us] Help fight advertising

While I don't think supporting specific, rather questionable business models, is something we should expend a lot of effort on, improving the tooling for individual businesses to maintain an entry in OSM is (and a serious SEO shop could easily use such tools). Some may have already had a look at

Re: [Talk-us] Looking for GPS with voice annotation?

As has already been suggested you can do this with OSMTracker, however (and I used it a lot for gathering house numbers) IMHO voice annotations are really too easy to get wrong in one way or the other and just tend to turn in to a rather stressful experience. If you have a reasonably regular

Re: [Talk-us] Willoughby, Ohio

The street in question is Stevens Boulevard http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/41.64710/-81.42325 it seems that there is an issue mainly with trucks and speeding, seems like a  classical rat run. There seems to be a "no trucks" restriction and potentially lower max speed on the road itself

[Talk-us] Willoughby, Ohio

We've (data & legal) received a request to remove a street in Willoughby, Ohio for safety reasons. It does seem as if a couple of things are rather under mapped there (speed limits, access and so on, not to mention POIs, but that's a different story). Anybody on the list in the vicinity that could

Re: [Talk-us] Potential vandalism or very misguided edits near Madison

ood reason/explanation for those > deletions. Looks like a clear case for a revert. I'm not confident > enough in my revert abilities, though. >  Harald, Madison (WI) > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch > <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote: >

[Talk-us] Potential vandalism or very misguided edits near Madison

See at least the last 5 or so changesets here https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/JuggernautMapper/history Walter has already commented on one of the changesets but maybe somebody local should have a look at the edits and potentially revert. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [Talk-us] anyone know what software is generating these Q/A Notes?

We've been having issues on and off for a while now (now and then with a lot longer delays than 2 hours), as I understand from Tom this is due to a large number of bogus spammy subscription requests. Simon On 12 August 2017 02:03:03 CEST, Rihards wrote: >On 2017.08.12.

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Sourcing Open Aerial Imagery

Am 27.07.2017 um 16:23 schrieb Bryan Housel: > TODO: We don’t have a template letter, or clear guidelines on which > imagery licenses are compatible with our use, and we should. > See https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/issues/166 . Like > you said in your other email, tracing is

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

Just to put the whole thing into perspective: the current run rate of SEO fake accounts in the US seems to be reasonably low. I counted 5 for the last 7 days, that is roughly 2% of new mappers in the US during those 7 days. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

Am 05.07.2017 um 17:27 schrieb Greg Morgan: > > > Am 01.07.2017 um 08:33 schrieb Simon Poole: > > ...given that we have a known US based SEO company that has created > (literally) 1000s of such accounts (but with slightly less spammy > edits), and "we" haven't

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

Am 01.07.2017 um 12:48 schrieb Walter Nordmann: > hi simon, > > > Am 01.07.2017 um 08:33 schrieb Simon Poole: >> >> I've already touched on this with the sys admins and saved refs to >> the ones that I fixed. However it is unlikely that we will do any >> thing

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

and on the other hand, given that we have a known US based SEO company that has created (literally) 1000s of such accounts (but with slightly less spammy edits), and "we" haven't taken any action, why should we in this case? Simon > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Simon Po

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

anks, > Ian > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch > <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote: > > I would suggest that TeleNav fixes the mess they made here > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/402471851#map=18/34.18198/-118.39599 > <

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

I would suggest that TeleNav fixes the mess they made here http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/402471851#map=18/34.18198/-118.39599 themselves. Am 30.06.2017 um 22:26 schrieb Simon Poole: > > I''m in the process of fixing a couple of these. and I couldn't help > noticing that some of t

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

A good example is "Box-n-Go Self Storage North" road in North Hollywood (I believe it should really be Laurel Canyon Boulevard) I would suggest TeleNav cleaning that up themselves. Am 30.06.2017 um 22:26 schrieb Simon Poole: > > I''m in the process of fixing a couple of these

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

I''m in the process of fixing a couple of these. and I couldn't help noticing that some of them can't simply be reverted because the TeleNav data team has added lane tagging on them Simon Am 30.06.2017 um 18:21 schrieb Clifford Snow: > Edits, from what appears to be a search engine

Re: [Talk-us] Data team mapping buildings in Fort Worth and Dallas

Andrew, could you perhaps weigh in on https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/issues/281 ? It seems to be rather silly to not be showing the best imagery as default in the editors (as I suspect we are doing for Texas). Thanks Simon On 25.05.2017 18:10, Andrew Matheny wrote: > Jinal- > > I

Re: [Talk-us] Choptank River

Am 16.01.2017 um 15:08 schrieb Christoph Hormann: > On Sunday 15 January 2017, Simon Poole wrote: >> Given that Washington is supposedly the global centre of mapping >> goodness, I hope we might be able to find somebody there that perhaps >> is interested in fixing the,

[Talk-us] Choptank River

While investigating a complaint to legal today in the vicinity of Denton Maryland, I couldn't help noticing that while Choptank River has a horribly broken, imported river bank, it seems to be missing the river. See for example http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/38.9018/-75.8339 Given that

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

The ODbL is very clear on what "Publicly" is: “Publicly” – means to Persons other than You or under Your control by either more than 50% ownership or by the power to direct their activities (such as contracting with an independent consultant). No need to speculate on that point. On the other

Re: [Talk-us] API Behavior

Am 26.02.2016 um 18:09 schrieb Richard Welty: > > the problem is that detecting the condition is pretty expensive. > consider long, straight boundaries that pass through your > bounding box. the search to find these segments of ways > might have to range out pretty far. > > Pretty far == the whole

Re: [Talk-us] QA tool to find duplicate addresses?

mouth Drive" ("addr:housenumber"="415") >>"addr:street"="Rudd Road" ("addr:housenumber"="219") >>"addr:street"="Shadow Mountain Terrace" >("addr:housenumber"="1144") >>

Re: [Talk-us] QA tool to find duplicate addresses?

OSMOSE does that http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/de/map/ Am 07.12.2015 um 00:06 schrieb Tod Fitch: > I’ve come across data from an old address import that seems to have numerous > duplicate addresses. It would be nice to point JOSM to the places with the > most problems rather than to just

Re: [Talk-us] Gosh ... something about mapping ...

to confuse things in Germany it is colloquially quite common to refer to any motorcycle as "moped" (even my 1300cc beemer) Am 02.12.2015 um 10:13 schrieb Paul Johnson: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch > <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote: > > &g

Re: [Talk-us] Gosh ... something about mapping ...

Miller: > I'm not familiar with the MUTCD, and a little Googling didn't get me > any clarification, but I'm guessing that "motor-driven cycles" refers > to mopeds and such, not to motorcycles. > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:21 AM Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch >

Re: [Talk-us] Gosh ... something about mapping ...

t; > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:23 AM Ben Miller <bborkmil...@gmail.com > <mailto:bborkmil...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I'm not familiar with the MUTCD, and a little Googling didn't get > me any clarification, but I'm guessing that "motor-driven cycles" >

[Talk-us] Gosh ... something about mapping ...

To give us all a break from the usual political machinations at this time of year I've drawn up the following table https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_MUTCD_exclusionary_signs_to_OSM_access The context is the work I've been doing on https://github.com/simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset which

Re: [Talk-us] GeoBadges 1.0 for OpenStreetMap

the sign up process without creating a cascade of further problems. Simon PS: given that this is slowly getting very off topic , I would suggest carrying on the discussion on the legal-talk list. Am 18.11.2015 um 02:26 schrieb Simon Poole: > > > Am 18.11.2015 um 01:26 schrieb Kate Chapman: &g

Re: [Talk-us] GeoBadges 1.0 for OpenStreetMap

I assume that you have got legal advice on the COPPA related consequences of your activities and are willing to share this with the OSMF? Simon Am 17.11.2015 um 02:45 schrieb Steven Johnson: > Hello list, > > Just in time for #OSMGeoweek, TeachOSM with support from Mapstory.org > and American

Re: [Talk-us] GeoBadges 1.0 for OpenStreetMap

der the age of 13. What is the issue? > > -Kate > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch > <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote: > > Thais good, but doesn't address the OSM side of things. > > Historically, aka pre 2013 revisi

Re: [Talk-us] GeoBadges 1.0 for OpenStreetMap

Am 18.11.2015 um 01:26 schrieb Kate Chapman: > Hi Simon, > > The groups releasing Geobadges "TeachOSM with support from > Mapstory.org and American Geographical Society" are not large > multi-million dollar US organizations. None of them have highly paid > in-house lawyers. Thank you for

Re: [Talk-us] GeoBadges 1.0 for OpenStreetMap

gt; 2. We're removing the Grade 3-5 option, since clearly that would be > marketed to under 13. > > Thanks for your concern. Hope I've addressed your question. Best regards, > > > -- SEJ > -- twitter: @geomantic > -- skype: sejohnson8 > > "Wretches, utter wretches

Re: [Talk-us] Increasing the number of US Mappers

A quick reality check: forget scraping stuff from FB or any other commercial operator of similar services (for legal/ToS reasons). And second: there is already the OSM forums which, depending on region, are quite popular. Further: none-of the above are really a replacement for a integrated

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap US elections: October 12 townhall with candidates

No, I'm not going to tell you who to vote for in the elections :-). However I believe there is some substantial misunderstanding of the numbers involved. Martijn noted in his manifesto that the daily editors numbers was flat for the US and Michael used that as one of the corner points in his

Re: [Talk-us] Best iOS app for GPS wander, GPX to laptop into OSM?

Am 06.10.2015 um 08:55 schrieb Peter Dobratz: ... a lot of stuff I was just going to write :-) ... In any case, I believe it is important not to get trapped in the "old" way of doing things. For the majority* of edits the "modern" (excluding on device editing which actually works fine) way is

Re: [Talk-us] Best iOS app for GPS wander, GPX to laptop into OSM?

Besides having all the issues Keypadmapper has squared, how do you prevent IP leakage from google to OSM? For example do you know if it employs any "lock on road" or similar technology? Simon Am 06.10.2015 um 17:47 schrieb Adam Franco: > For trail surveys and other GPS recording on Android I've

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

Randy, I just want to point out that there is an existing and well established OSM-based service that already supplies worldwide boundaries in a number of formats https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/ . Further the operator runs daily quality checks on changes in the boundaries. Simon Am

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

Am 11.06.2015 um 17:20 schrieb Randy Meech: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch mailto:si...@poole.ch wrote: I just want to point out that there is an existing and well established OSM-based service that already supplies worldwide boundaries in a number

Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

are likely to become if you stand in front of each building for up to several minutes before moving on. On April 13, 2015 4:02:24 AM CDT, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device, you may as well use vespucci and just do

Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

Am 14.04.2015 um 20:42 schrieb John F. Eldredge: If all you are doing on the spot is recording the house number, then what is the advantage to using Vespucci instead of a simpler tool? No further processing step, upload and you are finished. Other stuff, POIs and so one will tend to take

Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device, you may as well use vespucci and just do it properly the first time. But hten I'm biased. Simon Am 12.04.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Morgan: On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

Am 07.04.2015 um 16:51 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: ... is this something the OSMF lawyers have had a look into? Is the issue really copyright or is this about trademark (regarding the names GR PR etc.)? Currently it seems we are accepting what the Fédération Francaise de la Randonnée

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

Am 08.04.2015 um 15:23 schrieb Russ Nelson: Simon Poole writes: The wiki already explains: they hold a trademark for GR which makes using the official names of the routes essentially impossible in and Perhaps French trademark law is different than US trademark law, but in the US, you

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

Am 04.04.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Kate Chapman: ... Small reality check (not saying that this is anybodies fault, just how it is): - the US community shapes how the project is perceived by the media globally - US based companies control the majority of funds spent on OSM development and have a

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

Am 03.04.2015 um 02:41 schrieb stevea: Facts about the world Simon Poole writes: Up to now OSM has drawn the line in such a way that stuff that is signposted and is observable on the ground is fair game (with some exceptions, I believe the GR issue is still unsolved). Yes, all

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

Am 04.04.2015 um 18:40 schrieb stevea: Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world I respectfully and strenuously disagree. We still (and likely will) continue to have some predictable and manageable problems with import of data from third party sources, but we have procedures in place to make

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

Am 04.04.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Alex Barth: I just don't want to be called a couch potato in the course of it ;-) Couch carrot? :-P Seriously, I believe Frederik was more referring to how OSM is viewed by third parties and the impression outsiders could get from the image we tend to market. And

Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Calling all OSM railfans! (especially in California)

Am 02.04.2015 um 05:20 schrieb Russ Nelson: ... April Fools! Yes, you can. There are many kinds of public domain maps whose republication needs no license. For example, in the US all maps published before the magic date, whatever year it is we're up to now. Maps copyrighted but not renewed.

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

how other mappers work, even for contributors very much ingrained in how they do it. Simon Am 09.03.2015 um 20:23 schrieb Clifford Snow: On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch mailto:si...@poole.ch wrote: (obviously for nearly every thing except large scale

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

The real core question is: will you have newbies or not? Old hands will have their favourite method of mapping anyway and are unlikely to change (obviously for nearly every thing except large scale geometry changes vespucci is the only reasonable solution :-)). For them you simply need a

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations

Am 13.01.2015 um 21:29 schrieb Wolfgang Zenker: ... In Montana I have removed rather than changed these POIs, as they definitely no longer existed before the GNIS import. Removing these for all of the US would be a good thing, especially for hospitals. We definitely don't want people in an

Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)

Am 06.09.2014 15:19, schrieb Tod Fitch: It is way too late now, but I think tagging of traveled ways would have been better off it a simple highway=yes tag had been agreed to with everything else in other tags like width=*, surface=*, maxspeed=*, access=*, etc. IMHO you should

Re: [Talk-us] More road name expansion thoughts

Just a quick remark: there is already a tag short_name that is supported for example by nominatim that can be used for storing a contracted version of name for rendering and other purposes if necessary. Simon PS: these discussions are not unique to the states, even though the use of contractions

Re: [Talk-us] Tags used for routing

Martijn Wouldn't it be better to have this discussion on dev or tagging or at least some where with a slightly larger audience than talk-us? In any case the -really- important page is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions which is essentially the only

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Am 03.06.2014 10:42, schrieb Minh Nguyen: On 2014-06-02 13:24, Simon Poole wrote: @stevea you would substantially help your cause if the route data was available for inspection, best a public source from where it could be obtained. Here are the special committee minutes approving

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Am 02.06.2014 06:28, schrieb Russ Nelson: . Let's say that I follow this route on my bicycle using a cue sheet and keep a GPS track. Then I load my GPS track into JOSM and create a relation and call it USBRS #47 (or whatever). How is this an import?? While

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

@stevea you would substantially help your cause if the route data was available for inspection, best a public source from where it could be obtained. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Named beaches, too?

It has been pointed out in numerous places before, but just in case you missed it: there is an ongoing effort (since months) to remove all catch alls from the standard style. This implies that stuff you thought was rendered might vanish, but in fact it was just accidental that it was shown in the

Re: [Talk-us] Sidewalks as footpaths

This is not the OSMF becoming involved in tagging :-) I'm guilty of quite a bit of sidewalk mapping, even though I have some sympathy for a generalized approach (adding a tag to the main road way). In reality, at least here, this tends not to model the actual topology particularly well. I do a

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

Yes, I believe that is fairly clear. We do however seem to have a clear continuing increase in the average rate of new contributors too. Simon Am 14.03.2014 22:39, schrieb Richard Weait: On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: And while I haven't updated my charts

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

Am 14.03.2014 21:47, schrieb Carol Kraemer: .. Let's say that there are 1,500,000 registered users http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Osmdbstats1_users.png as is stated by the first graph. I will also look at the last year of % of total users contributing where the highest

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

I wrote an unpublished blog article a week ago (obviously not in response to post of Alex) that I've put online now http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/21225 It might be of interest where IMHO Alex didn't get it quite right. Simon

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Using 'Kort' outside of Switzerland

without speed tags in JOSM and set them to 25 mph. Finally the pub: I didn't know it! It still remains to be answered. Thank you for this interesting game, Peter On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch mailto:si...@poole.ch wrote: From the talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

Just a couple of observations from the other side of the Atlantic: - please make it easy to contact your group without having to go through a sign up procedure with yet another service. Not everybody is interested in joining permamently and making a meetup account mandatory just means you wont

[Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] The game 'Kort' finally updates OpenStreetMap

From the talk mailing list (mandatory disclosure: yes I know the authors). Original-Nachricht Hi there, I'm very proud to announce that finally Kort[1] (the OSM game) writes back it's collected solutions to OSM! All changes are made by the OSM user kort-to-osm[2], so it's

Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US

Am 07.11.2013 06:20, schrieb Bryce Cogswell: I have to agree with Jason on this as well. Admin borders are some of the most important cartographic information on the planet, to the extent that wars are fought over them, and are easily verified through dozens of independent sources. To exclude

Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US

IMHO we shouldn't and I don't believe it is necessary to, give up the principle of everybody can edit anything, even in the case of admin borders. On the one hand we have cases where the borders are estimates generated by mappers because there are no available and free sources, on the other hand

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

Am 28.07.2013 17:51, schrieb stevea: ... Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox I might be the nicest person you have ever met, I hope I am a good OSM mapper, and I am kind to children and animals. However, I vehemently oppose OSM collecting any additional

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Am 19.07.2013 12:06, schrieb Kathleen Danielson: Hi Clifford, Wow--thanks for sharing those stats! They are really interesting! I just took a look at the link you shared and it looks like we're seeing the number of mappers contributing on any given day. Do you know if it's possible to

Re: [Talk-us] NYC neighborhood data

Kushal welcome to OSM. Please feel free to improve our data, while adding the neighbourhoods as a first project is going to result in a fairly steep learning curve for you, it is certainly doable. Unluckily the map used in Wikipedia is unlikely to be usable directly in OSM for licence reasons,