Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

Bill Ricker writes: > The PokeStop was at our exact target, "1899 MIT Observatory site" which is > moderately well known (on the park map, in FourSquare). [1] > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/944663159#map=19/42.44109/-71.08359=D https://www.ingress.com/intel?pll=42.441303,-71.085092 >

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

As an ingress player, I can confirm use of ingress data for pokestops and gyms. Same location descriptions and images submitted by ingress players. Ingress saw a huge influx of new users when Pokemon Go launched. People created ingress accounts just so that they could use the ingress Intel map to

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

On 2017.01.05. 22:34, Bill Ricker wrote: > I have a possible confirmation that PokeGo is using OSM Points of > Interest to populate features, but not of edit vandalism. > > We went onto local hiking trails to document some local science history, > taking my daughter along for company and having

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

I have a possible confirmation that PokeGo is using OSM Points of Interest to populate features, but not of edit vandalism. We went onto local hiking trails to document some local science history, taking my daughter along for company and having someone under 50 to keep an eye on us oldsters. She

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

moltonel 3x Combo writes: > While this is only an anecdotal result, there are clearly a lot more > spawns on this walk than in the surrounding area (I regularly get > 10-15 spawns on this 700m footway, but only 1-2 covering the same > distance along the primary to get there). > > IMHO, the

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

Hi everyone! I think it's safe to say that this thread has wandered way off topic. Please keep messages constructive and on-topic. A great place to discuss the license and implications of others' use of OSM data are the couple legal mailing lists. Thanks, and happy new year! -Ian, your friendly

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > The ODbL is very clear on what "Publicly" is: > > “Publicly” – means to Persons other than You or under Your control by > either more than 50% ownership or by the power to direct their > activities (such as contracting with an

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

The ODbL is very clear on what "Publicly" is: “Publicly” – means to Persons other than You or under Your control by either more than 50% ownership or by the power to direct their activities (such as contracting with an independent consultant). No need to speculate on that point. On the other

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > Can you help me understand what part of the ODbL [1] they are violating? > As far I can tell, they don't modify the data nor do they display OSM tiles > or make any of the data available (​It was not my

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Bill Ricker wrote: > > ​Traditional map copyright violation proof would be adding a Trap Close​ > ... do the have a map that shows name of feature that spawns critters? > Adding a nonsense footpath to no-where (shaped like a P ? ) in a >

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

On 2016.12.30. 21:19, Bill Ricker wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Paul Johnson > wrote: > > I wonder how we would politely license-check Niantic... > > > ​Traditional map copyright violation proof would be adding a Trap Close​

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On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > I wonder how we would politely license-check Niantic... ​Traditional map copyright violation proof would be adding a Trap Close​ ... do the have a map that shows name of feature that spawns critters? Adding a nonsense

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

Warin said: "Targeting Pokemon contributors falls into a trap... the assumption that a particular activity/group are all inclined to vandalism. These new contributors could be very usefull ... if 'we' don't tar them all with abusive thoughts." Most definitely, we should assume good faith -- but

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Jack Burke wrote: > They're using the same map they used in Ingress, a game they launched when > still part of Google. That one is known to have come from Google. It makes > sense that any map databases they had when the break happened would

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

They're using the same map they used in Ingress, a game they launched when still part of Google. That one is known to have come from Google. It makes sense that any map databases they had when the break happened would still be owned by the company; they just wouldn't have maps that included

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Targeting Pokemon contributors falls into a trap... the assumption that a > particular activity/group are all inclined to vandalism. Another trap, too: Assuming that Niantic and/or Nintendo are using OpenStreetMap for this

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

I've been seeing a number of new users adding paths and parks. I deleted three "parks" in Tacoma Washington just this morning. One was covering a residential area, another was a group of trees behind some houses and the third was a vacant lot. The area with the trees might have been an attempt to