Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

. -Dion > From: Mark Wagner <mark+...@carnildo.com> > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags? > Message-ID: <20160606113228.1f5b2...@puma.carnildo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sun,

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:21:07 -0700 Dion Dock wrote: > I think the rural residential roads are either “highway=service”, > “highway=track” or “highway=path”. I think “highway=residential” > should always have a name. Service might or might not have a name, > same for path

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Loud opinions follow. Be warned. :) I wish “unclassified” would just die in the USA. I think it has a formal meaning in other countries (see also “living_street”) but doesn’t have meaning in the USA. Further, since almost all of the TIGER import didn’t use it, it’s just creating busywork

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On 06/04/2016 09:12 PM, Harald Kliems wrote: All these discussions are the reason why I almost never touch the highway=* tag and rather add surface=* or other descriptive tags to TIGER roads. There just isn't any consensus and many good reasons for many positions about residential, unclassified,

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All these discussions are the reason why I almost never touch the highway=* tag and rather add surface=* or other descriptive tags to TIGER roads. There just isn't any consensus and many good reasons for many positions about residential, unclassified, track, etc. Harald. On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at

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On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:01 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > I'm usually talking about mapping in much more remote areas, and I've > been using 'track' more to denote more road quality. In some of the > places I go, there are public rights-of-way that haven't been >

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I'm usually talking about mapping in much more remote areas, and I've been using 'track' more to denote more road quality. In some of the places I go, there are public rights-of-way that haven't been maintained by the counties in decades, that would still be lawful to drive on if you had a vehicle

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On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Eric Ladner wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:58 AM Greg Troxel wrote: > >> >> Kevin Kenny writes: >> >> > OK, 'residential' if it looks like 'subdivision', 'unclassified' >> > otherwise (as

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Eric Ladner writes: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:58 AM Greg Troxel wrote: > >> >> Kevin Kenny writes: >> >> > OK, 'residential' if it looks like 'subdivision', 'unclassified' >> > otherwise (as long as it's drivable in, say,

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On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:58 AM Greg Troxel wrote: > > Kevin Kenny writes: > > > OK, 'residential' if it looks like 'subdivision', 'unclassified' > > otherwise (as long as it's drivable in, say, my daughter's car rather > > than my 4-wheeler). Got

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Kevin Kenny writes: > OK, 'residential' if it looks like 'subdivision', 'unclassified' > otherwise (as long as it's drivable in, say, my daughter's car rather > than my 4-wheeler). Got it. I also see a distinction between residential/unclassified as denoting a

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OK, 'residential' if it looks like 'subdivision', 'unclassified' otherwise (as long as it's drivable in, say, my daughter's car rather than my 4-wheeler). Got it. I suspect that 'residential'/'unclassified' right now is almost a difference without a distinction. I suppose that 'residential' might

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On 6/3/16 5:13 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Can someone review for me the 'rural residential' problem? the short version is that we are supposed to use residential in truly residential areas and unclassified for generic town roads. in tiger, there is no distinction between the two and so everything

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I typically correct the geometry and delete the 'TIGER:reviewed=no', but leave the rest because I'm superstitious... -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes. --*Ludwig Wittgenstein* On Fri, Jun 3,

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Hi Kevin, I'll try to add some context. Here's a neat use for the new OSM Analytics tool developed by HOT: http://osm-analytics.org/#/compare/polygon:~lwbS}lpoFipQYwJawGbnQxD/2008...now/highways If you don't see 'blue' roads, zoom in until you do and then swipe left/right - you can see the

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removed are tiger:reviewed, plus spurious >> additional tags that duplicate existing ones (tiger:zip_left_1 when it’s the >> same as tiger:zip_left). >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> From: Russell Deffner [mailto:russdeff...@gmail.com] >&g

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t; > Steve > > > > *From:* Russell Deffner [mailto:russdeff...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2016 8:45 AM > *To:* 'Adam Franco' <adamfra...@gmail.com>; talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags? > >

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From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:03 AM To: Steve Friedl; Russell Deffner; Adam Franco; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags? On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:52 AM Steve Friedl <st...@unixwiz.

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On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:52 AM Steve Friedl wrote: > Ø Unless something changed, I think both Potlatch and JOSM will remove > the ‘junk’ tags from TIGER if you delete the reviewed=no > > > > I’ve deleted thousands of tiger:reviewed tags (after proper review) and > have never

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:45 AM To: 'Adam Franco' <adamfra...@gmail.com>; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags? Oops, sorry Adam, replied directly to you versus the list; here’s the message: My thoughts: Unless something changed, I think both Po

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encourage mass changing of classification based on anything but function of the roadway. =Russ From: Adam Franco [mailto:adamfra...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 9:28 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER

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Funny, I just looked at the MapRoulette beta and noticed that you were already doing this. On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 10:00 -0400, James Umbanhowar wrote: > Minor suggestion for this MapRoulette challenge:  Could you structure > it by state (or other geographic region, county?) and do each region >

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Minor suggestion for this MapRoulette challenge:  Could you structure it by state (or other geographic region, county?) and do each region sequentially.  I, personally, think it would be neat to see areas get "done" as far as Tiger clean up.   Either way, thanks for these. James On Fri,

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Well said. I have space in my basement also. I am eager to launch a MapRoulette challenge for untouched rural ‘residential’ roads - a challenge which will probably take some time to complete. If someone can furnish a good Overpass query for this, please go ahead and do it. Martijn > On Jun

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Madeline Steele wrote: > What do you all think about this? The sine qua non for me is that the absence of a tiger:reviewed= tag (or one set to =yes) means that you can trust the value of the highway= tag. This is especially true of rural areas where unreviewed highway=residential covers a

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I usually remove all TIGER tags as I update roads. Martijn > On Jun 2, 2016, at 10:59 PM, Madeline Steele > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I was hoping to open a discussion on current best practices for dealing with > old TIGER tags. I know this has been covered

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On 6/2/16 4:59 PM, Madeline Steele wrote: > > The approach that is preferred at TriMet (where I work) is that if we > are able to check the geometry of the street against fairly recent > imagery (improving it if needed) and verify the name of the street, > from either our local jurisdictional

[Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

Hello all, I was hoping to open a discussion on current best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags. I know this has been covered here in the past, but I think it’s been a few years and it seems possible that methods have shifted. I’m from Portland (Oregon J) and on many streets, TIGER tags