On 3/13/17 10:08 AM, Rory McCann wrote:
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> I generally support these kinds of things. However such an old tag is in
> use so much, that changing it would really mess a lot of things up for a
> while. You'd need a lot of work to move over. So I'm skeptical purely
> for practical reasons. And I
On 10/03/17 22:27, Joshua Houston wrote:
> It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be
> phased out from OpenStreetMap language. The philosophy of OpenStreetMap
> is very inclusive and that should be represented even in the way data is
> tagged. I'd like to propose to
Richard Fairhurst writes:
> Joshua Houston wrote:
> > It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be
> > phased out from OpenStreetMap language.
>
> FWIW, the lingua franca of OSM tagging is British English: so, colour rather
> than color, and so on.
>
> man_made
Joshua Houston wrote:
> It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be
> phased out from OpenStreetMap language.
FWIW, the lingua franca of OSM tagging is British English: so, colour rather
than color, and so on.
British English does of course have different cultural
Inadvertently sent this as a private reply when I meant to send it to the
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On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Clifford Snow
wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Blake Girardot
> wrote:
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>> You bring up a good point of course. It sticks out
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Blake Girardot wrote:
> You bring up a good point of course. It sticks out to me too. I am not
> sure what a good alternative is though. human_made is not to bad.
>
Looking through taginfo for man_made, it strikes me that structure could
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Joshua Houston
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be phased
> out from OpenStreetMap language. The philosophy of OpenStreetMap is very
> inclusive and that should be represented even in the
Hi,
On 03/10/2017 10:27 PM, Joshua Houston wrote:
> It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term
Two observations:
1. Our tagging system is complicated, illogical, and has little to do
with real language. Things are tagged as amenity even if they're hardly
that in any normal use of the
On 3/10/2017 4:27 PM, Joshua Houston wrote:
It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be
phased out from OpenStreetMap language.
Changing any long-established tag will have long lasting ripple
effects in the many data consumers. Any such tag migration would need
On 10/03/17 14:52, Brian Stromberg wrote:
Wow.
I think it at least merits a discussion. Yes, it's a political decision
but not so ridiculous as to dismiss it as part of a feminist plot.
Not a feminist plot. Just a very tired game to see played out over and over.
I've seen it played in a lot
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 3:28 PM Joshua Houston
wrote:
> It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be
> phased out from OpenStreetMap language. The philosophy of OpenStreetMap is
> very inclusive and that should be represented even in the way data
Wow.
I think it at least merits a discussion. Yes, it's a political decision but
not so ridiculous as to dismiss it as part of a feminist plot.
I would also point out that using a gender-specific term like "man" does
more to maintain division than anything else.
--
Brian
On Mar 10, 2017 4:38
Fair enough --- but please be clear that this form of discussion is
highly divisive in and of itself, and should be treated as such.
It is pointless in the sense that renaming "man_made=" to "human_made="
will not help the development of the map in any way. Bike-shedding about
this only
Please keep discussion on topic and positive.
Discouraging further discussion by applying labels such as "pointless" to
someone's opinion makes this list less open to those that believe it is an
important thing to discuss.
Thanks,
Ian
(Your friendly talk-us moderator)
On Mar 10, 2017 16:38,
No.
"Man" has been a general term for humanity in the English language since
time immemorial.
It is only feminists who wish to divide humanity along gender lines who
have a problem with "man" as a term of reference. Such argumentation is
deliberately divisive, and serves no purpose.
There
Hi,
It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be phased
out from OpenStreetMap language. The philosophy of OpenStreetMap is very
inclusive and that should be represented even in the way data is tagged.
I'd like to propose to change the key from "man_made" to "human_made"
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