Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

There's lots of discussion of these points as a mapping resource. The thing is, they don't need to exist as current OSM objects for mappers to use them as a resource, there's lots of other ways to use them as a reference. The deleted points can be extracted from the mechanical edit changesets or

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 12:27 PM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Is there way to mark challenge as for armchair users/requiring local survey? > > And show from the second group only when explicitly required? > > I remember that on my attempt to use MapRoulette many were not doable without > local

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Mar 22, 2019, 3:22 PM by m...@rtijn.org: >> On Mar 22, 2019, at 4:08 AM, Mark Wagner <>> mark+...@carnildo.com >> >> > wrote: >> >> On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:23:48 -0600 >> Martijn van Exel <>> m...@rtijn.org >> > wrote: >> On Mar 21,

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

> On Mar 22, 2019, at 4:08 AM, Mark Wagner wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:23:48 -0600 > Martijn van Exel wrote: > >>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Mark Wagner >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:46:59 -0600 >>> Martijn van Exel mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote: >>> > On Mar 20,

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Mar 22, 2019, 9:51 AM by rich...@systemed.net: > The other automated edits you're proposing would be better done by adding > the keys to editor blacklists because the tags aren't actually harming > anyone. > Main harm is that - it is one more tag that people, especially newbies need to

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:23:48 -0600 Martijn van Exel wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Mark Wagner > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:46:59 -0600 > > Martijn van Exel mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote: > > > >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > >>> wrote: > >>> >

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Please comment no matter what you think about this idea! I will > not make the edit without a clear support so please comment if > you think that it is a good idea and if you think that it should > not be done. I think it's an excellent idea. I've deleted these

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Mark Wagner wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:46:59 -0600 > Martijn van Exel mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote: > >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Mateusz Konieczny >>> wrote: >>> >>> I plan to run an automated edit that will revert part of the GNIS >>> import

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:46:59 -0600 Martijn van Exel wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > > wrote: > > > > I plan to run an automated edit that will revert part of the GNIS > > import that added them and delete objects that never had any reason > > to appear in the OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Mar 21, 2019, 6:18 PM by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com: > I, too, would appreciate seeing some sample data, let's say, some > reasonable radius around 42.8257, -73.8790. That's more to make sure > that the technology is working right and not wetting on stuff that's > already fixed, but of course,

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Mar 21, 2019, 6:23 PM by cliff...@snowandsnow.us: > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:52 AM Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> Good idea, independent check would be welcomed! >> >> Something from Seattle region would be OK, right? >> >>

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:52 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Good idea, independent check would be welcomed! > > Something from Seattle region would be OK, right? > > If my googling went right the you are probably interested > in data around >

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:31 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > The benefit is that it gives mappers a reason to examine places - not just > the disappeared feature itself but also the area around it - that would > otherwise go unexamined. Since we have so much unexamined space in the U.S., > any

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Good idea, independent check would be welcomed! Something from Seattle region would be OK, right? If my googling went right the you are probably interested in data around https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Glassman/history#map=8/47.780/-122.388 Mar 21, 2019, 5:43 PM by cliff...@snowandsnow.us:

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

I'm in favor of the bot but I'd like to review a sample of the data being removed in my area. The purpose is to test the assumption that the data is of no use. Best, Clifford On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:32 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Mar 21, 2019, 3:56 PM by m...@rtijn.org: > > Re-reading this

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Mar 21, 2019, 3:56 PM by m...@rtijn.org: > Re-reading this I phrased this with more hyperbole than I intended, sorry. > I see no problem here, after all lack of control over automated edit is how we ended in this situation. ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Mar 21, 2019, 3:29 PM by m...@rtijn.org: > The benefit is that it gives mappers a reason to examine places - not just > the disappeared feature itself but also the area around it - that would > otherwise go unexamined. Since we have so much unexamined space in the U.S., > any opportunity to

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Re-reading this I phrased this with more hyperbole than I intended, sorry. I do think we should learn from past mistakes and approach any automated edit, be it an import or a (subsequent) fix, with the proper diligence. Which is what we’re doing here, and I commend you for taking an open-minded

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:31 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > The benefit is that it gives mappers a reason to examine places - not just > the disappeared feature itself but also the area around it - that would > otherwise go unexamined. Since we have so much unexamined space in the > U.S., any

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 08:04:13 +0100 (CET) From: Mateusz Konieczny Cc: Talk Us Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them Mar 21, 2019, 4:46 AM by m...@rtijn.org: On Mar 20, 2019, at

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

On 3/21/2019 3:04 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: What is the benefit, during survey, of mapped places that are not existing anymore? I encounter many during surveys (usually result of data getting outdated) and for me it was always time sink (as I needed to check is it actually gone) and never

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

Mar 21, 2019, 4:46 AM by m...@rtijn.org: > > >> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <>> matkoni...@tutanota.com >> >> > wrote: >> >> I plan to run an automated edit that will revert part of the GNIS >> import that added them and delete objects that

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > I plan to run an automated edit that will revert part of the GNIS > import that added them and delete objects that never had any reason to > appear in the OSM database in any form, at least according to GNIS data. > > Please

[Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

There are thousands of objects mistakenly imported to OSM from GNIS. Objects proposed to be deleted were documented in GNIS database as not existing at time of the import, but were imported anyway. Edit would remove many nonexisting objects that are currently misleading users of OSM data and