Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2015-02-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Mike Henson mikehen...@hotmail.com wrote: Steve, I agree with Charlotte, In Oklahoma I am seeing a lot of different names on one rail road line like Charlotte is talking about. We need to figure out how we're going to map the new Eastern Flyer mass transit

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2015-02-02 Thread stevea
Paul Johnson wrote: We need to figure out how we're going to map the new http://easternflyer.com/Eastern Flyer mass transit system that's being put together by (of all people) Iowa Pacific Railroad. Especially since I'm not completely sure where the stations are in the towns it stops in (and

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly (Dave Mansfield)

2015-01-01 Thread Michael Patrick
What I'm not quite sure about are federal records such as FRA records (as I believe Oak Ridge data are). These would be covered under, say, a FOIA request, and so are quite similar to the same nexus argument as state records, only under federal law, not state law. Generally, I have had very

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread Michael Patrick
this is where we need rail fans or rail professionals to correct us where we are wrong, as the structure of the network is what we are defining with these tags (main and branch), Oak Ridge National Laboratory: ... Railroad Network is a representation of the North American railroad system that

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread stevea
Michael Patrick writes: (about the Oak Ridge National Laboratory: ... Railroad Network data). I found these at: http://www-cta.ornl.gov/transnet/RailRoads.html And have downloaded (~10 megabytes) a zipped shapefile of the entire network (as well as the simplified 7 megabyte one which omits

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Steve, Thanks to Michael for a great find and to you for trying to make it usable in OSM. It will be interesting to see what comes out of it. Sounds like we should hold off on any wiki work for a while. There is much data to examine, and I'm already doing stuff for HOT.

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-31 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
, December 31, 2014 2:24 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Cc: imports...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly I examine these in JOSM right now. First they need to be unzipped, and it looks like the (provided on that web page) PRJ file to change from WGS 84 (default) to either

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-29 Thread stevea
A not-so-brief review of what has happened in the ten days since I brought this up. I have had fruitful conversations both on- and off-list with several responders to my shout out about improving rail in California (in OSM). Largely speaking, this resulted in better harmonization about what

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-29 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Steve, Yes, any explanation of the difference between main and branch lines and owner is appreciated. I find myself rather confused at the moment. For instance, why does the BNSF line across Arizona and into New Mexico change to Gallup Subdivision at one point to the west of

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-29 Thread stevea
Hi Charlotte (and talk-us, and apologies for the length of this): Yes, any explanation of the difference between main and branch lines and owner is appreciated. I find myself rather confused at the moment. It is complicated. The owner= tag is for the actual landowner of the railroad.

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-29 Thread Eric H. Christensen
Steve, Thanks for sparking my interest here. I had started working on some rail segments around my home town of Plymouth, NC, but after reading your original message I went back and completed those and verified other segments along the branch including those around the state port in Morehead

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-21 Thread Alexander Jones
stevea wrote: Alexander Jones wrote: * I'm in the process of retracing most of the current and abandoned lines in the San Joaquin Valley south of Stockton. Especially on the BNSF line, don't waste your time. I'm not sure why you think this is waste of time, but I appreciate the heads-up

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-21 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-12-20 18:59, Natfoot wrote: Steve, If you are finding PCIX those are the call letters for the railroad that is the owner, they may also be the operator. Now here is the tricky bit, I will use the example of a local short line railroad. This railroad the property is owned by the county

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-21 Thread stevea
Alexander writes: I was trying to say, Let's not duplicate work. It's not a waste, but I wanted to let you know I was going to be remapping that segment anyway. Thanks. Good to be working with you! (And other OSM railfans in the USA). I'll stay away from / not edit this segment, but I'm

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-20 Thread stevea
Alexander Jones wrote: So, that's you? I've spent the past year-plus remapping rail lines in the Central Valley. Right now, I'm finishing up the BNSF Mojave Subdivision towards Barstow. A few tips: * Please use the subdivision name where available. Using the railroad as the name is redundant

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-20 Thread Tod Fitch
On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:35 PM, stevea wrote: Yes, I'll use owner= if known, and it is name= which displays in ORM as the name of the line. Many lines had name= as the service run upon them (like Caltrain instead of Union Pacific), and I have corrected this where I know it was wrong in

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-20 Thread Natfoot
Hey guys, Some words of support and complication. The usage=main is a problem, and here is why: What people consider to be main line can not and will not be known by looking at it in real life nor specified by whether or not it has passenger service on it. As such you can also have main line

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-20 Thread stevea
On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:35 PM, stevea wrote: Yes, I'll use owner= if known, and it is name= which displays in ORM as the name of the line. Many lines had name= as the service run upon them (like Caltrain instead of Union Pacific), and I have corrected this where I know it was wrong in OSM.

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-20 Thread Natfoot
Steve, If you are finding PCIX those are the call letters for the railroad that is the owner, they may also be the operator. Now here is the tricky bit, I will use the example of a local short line railroad. This railroad the property is owned by the county and the port; one railroad (GNPX) has

Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly

2014-12-19 Thread Natfoot
Thanks Steve, I am working on what I can. Would like to have some discussion on proper tuning of relations. Many of these open railway map tags are new to me. -Nathan NathanP On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:10 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I'm beginning to channel California rail,