On 4/27/14 3:10 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com
mailto:rich...@weait.com wrote:
- the concurrency of US1 and US 9, where ref=1-9 isn't numeric, but is
right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_1/9
How, as a country,
Richard Weait writes:
- the concurrency of US1 and US 9, where ref=1-9 isn't numeric, but is
right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_1/9
Interestingly Google Maps, when pronouncing directions, calls that US
One To Nine.
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Crynwr supports
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Richard Weait writes:
- the concurrency of US1 and US 9, where ref=1-9 isn't numeric, but is
right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_1/9
Interestingly Google Maps, when pronouncing directions, calls that US
One
Hah. This should be an interesting one then, for trekkies at least:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/187922/7-9.png
Create your own at http://shields.aaroads.com/generator.php
Martijn
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Richard Weait writes:
- the
That's totally where my mind went! :)
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Martijn van Exel mart...@openstreetmap.us
wrote:
Hah. This should be an interesting one then, for trekkies at least:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/187922/7-9.png
Create your own at
Interesting note about this in Maryland. My friend Mike showed me that some
mappers have been using the *county* route numbers on some county roads in
Maryland. All county roads in MD have a 4 digit number that starts with CO,
like CO1150. CO is also the state abbr. for Colorado. Chaos ensues on
On 23:53 2014-03-27, Elliott Plack wrote:
Interesting note about this in Maryland. My friend Mike showed me that
some mappers have been using the *county* route numbers on some county
roads in Maryland. All county roads in MD have a 4 digit number that
starts with CO, like CO1150. CO is also the
Hi all, been following the thread, just hadn't yet taken the time to write.
Part of the confusion is the lack of a 'definitive' wiki page. Here
are some links, partly contradicting each other:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging
On 3/28/14 11:33 AM, Elliott Plack wrote:
Phil,
That's right. I would use unsigned_ref for county routes. In Baltimore
County the county route numbers are never signed and not really even
advertised. You'd have to look at SHA databases to figure out the ref. Here
is an example using the
* the ref= on relations only contains the number. Any data consumer
composes the full route shield / name from the network and the ref
tags.
Almost. :-) ref= contains the specific identifier of the route.
where I-35 splits into I-35E and I-35W (in two different states!) the
ref= should be 35E or
Phil,
That's right. I would use unsigned_ref for county routes. In Baltimore
County the county route numbers are never signed and not really even
advertised. You'd have to look at SHA databases to figure out the ref. Here
is an example using the proposed tagging (without using relations).
* Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com [2014-03-28 02:53 -0400]:
Interesting note about this in Maryland. My friend Mike showed me that some
mappers have been using the *county* route numbers on some county roads in
Maryland.
Since Maryland counties don't sign their route numbers[0], they're
Carl Simonson wrote:
Let's not forget about segments that are part of multiple routes. For
example, there's a section of I-35 in northern Missouri that is both I-35
and US 110. Or in Ames, IA there's a section of US 30 that's also known as
I-35 Business.
110 is actually a state route, used
On 3/26/14 10:16 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote:
for Washington County. (some places they use US:NY:CR:Washington
which might be better, i don't know).
I thought the consensus was on US:stateabbr:countyname
i don't know
Let's not forget about segments that are part of multiple routes. For
example, there's a section of I-35 in northern Missouri that is both I-35
and US 110. Or in Ames, IA there's a section of US 30 that's also known as
I-35 Business.
How should these things be tagged? Most have the standard names
On 3/26/14 9:52 PM, Carl Simonson wrote:
It seems to me like the ref tag really isn't all that useful for ways
anyway, because what we are really trying to tag is networks, not
individual roads.
it's of limited value on ways. hopefully the usage of ref tags
on ways will wither and disappear
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.comwrote:
Weird is a matter of opinion, but I only know of Farm Road (FM), Ranch
Road (RM or RR), Park Road (PR), the one-off NASA Road 1 (which I can
concede is a bit unusual), the semi-standard Spur and Loop, and normal
state
* Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2014-03-12 00:33 -0500]:
I went and verified some things about bannered routes. It looks like the
current shield rendering looks for network=X:Y:Modifier. So for example the
US 50 truck route in Cincinnati is network=US:US:Truck and ref=50.
[snip]
Looking
On 07:21 2014-03-13, David ``Smith'' wrote:
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Minh Nguyen
That said, I don't find a particularly strong case for leaving bare numbers
in ways' ref tags.
How about when the actual route marker is generic? A few states here
and there use the plain circle for
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Minh Nguyen
m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us wrote:
On 16:04 2014-03-11, Peter Davies wrote:
I thought I would make my proposal stand out a bit more by adding words
to the title. :-O
There are some weird things, like Nebraska's state law that requires
NDOR to
i've removed all prior text because i think it'll be a distraction.
we need to avoid jumbling rendering issues with data representation
issues. too many of us are focusing on how the rendered version looks
and not all data consumers are renderers.
the long term path will involve abandoning ref
On 16:04 2014-03-11, Peter Davies wrote:
I thought I would make my proposal stand out a bit more by adding words
to the title. :-O
There are some weird things, like Nebraska's state law that requires
NDOR to have a state road link to every community of a 100 people or
more. I've changed some
On 3/10/14 11:07 PM, James Mast wrote:
I know that in some states that we don't add the state
abbreviation (and use 'SR' or 'SH'), and other states we don't add
anything at all expect just the number.
I'm just curious if anybody thinks we should try to get them all
standardized on the
As Richard pointed out, we need consistency. Here in Kansas state highways
are generally referred to as K-xx however in OSM they are tagged with a
ref of KS xx because I feel like being consistent is more important than
how they look on osm.org.
And speaking of renderers, you will notice that the
On 3/11/14 7:04 PM, Peter Davies wrote:
I thought I would make my proposal stand out a bit more by adding words to
the title. :-O
There are some weird things, like Nebraska's state law that requires NDOR
to have a state road link to every community of a 100 people or more. I've
changed some
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014, at 06:04 PM, Peter Davies wrote:
Texas also has many weird qualifiers on minor state routes but as I've
never contracted there for 511 I'm not totally familiar with them.
Weird is a matter of opinion, but I only know of Farm Road (FM), Ranch
Road (RM or RR), Park Road
Getting to a finish on what has developed and exists regarding
shields (guessed/inferred to mean the active project MapQuest Open
uses) would seem to disambiguate that. It seems a tall order,
doable, but tall.
We currently contract with 12 state DOTs that include and are spread
between CA
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote:
On 3/11/14 7:04 PM, Peter Davies wrote:
I thought I would make my proposal stand out a bit more by adding words
to
the title. :-O
There are some weird things, like Nebraska's state law that requires NDOR
to
I know that in some states that we don't add the state abbreviation (and use
'SR' or 'SH'), and other states we don't add anything at all expect just the
number.
I'm just curious if anybody thinks we should try to get them all standardized
on the ways. For instance, we should start adding the
On 3/10/14 11:07 PM, James Mast wrote:
I know that in some states that we don't add the state abbreviation (and use
'SR' or 'SH'), and other states we don't add anything at all expect just the
number.
I'm just curious if anybody thinks we should try to get them all standardized
on the
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