Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Eric H. Christensen wrote: > The routing engine should be able to take into account > the road surface It can and often does. Your problem there is that only 2% of highway= ways in the US are explicitly tagged with surface; probably only 30% are implicitly tagged; and sometimes the implicit

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
20 Dec 2019, 01:25 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > So, for example, in the US, instead of motorway, trunk, primary, secondary, > tertiary, perhaps something more like freeway, expressway, > major/minor_principal (just having this would fix a *lot* of problems with > Texas and Missouri and their

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 1:19 PM Martijn van Exel wrote: > I actually like your suggestion that highway=trunk does not add much value > to the U.S. map, Eric. > We love to add detail / granularity to OSM so much, it can become hard to > envisage taking some away. > Not saying we should abolish

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 5:13 AM Mike N wrote: > On 12/17/2019 10:19 PM, Evin Fairchild wrote: > > some US routes are more important than others and lumping them all as > > primary doesn???t make any sense; > > The arguments here about relative importance of parallel routes makes > sense. > >

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary

2019-12-19 Thread stevea
I now reiterate the fundamental struggle in this discussion (which can be summed up as "both"): highway=trunk is another level of granularity (above primary) to describe "high performance OR high importance roads" (emphasis mine). Additionally, (from the US-specific definition from our wiki):

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-19 Thread Eric H. Christensen via Talk-us
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, December 19, 2019 2:19 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > I actually like your suggestion that highway=trunk does not add much value to > the U.S. map, Eric. > We love to add detail / granularity to OSM so

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-19 Thread Martijn van Exel
I actually like your suggestion that highway=trunk does not add much value to the U.S. map, Eric. We love to add detail / granularity to OSM so much, it can become hard to envisage taking some away. Not saying we should abolish trunk right here and now, but something I'd consider as one outcome.

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-19 Thread Eric Ladner
I personally dislike "trunk". Its definition is vague and leaves a lot to interpretation (and argument). It doesn't really add anything to the information on the map, IMO. A US Highway is a US Highway regardless of how much traffic it carries or how many stoplights it has. Maybe if the

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-19 Thread Mike N
On 12/17/2019 10:19 PM, Evin Fairchild wrote: some US routes are more important than others and lumping them all as primary doesn???t make any sense; The arguments here about relative importance of parallel routes makes sense. Some massive changes such as in

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-17 Thread Evin Fairchild
t: Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary, Paul Johnson writes: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:24 AM Mike N wrote: > >> >>I think many of the trunk VS motorway VS primary conflicts come from >> 2 points of view: on the one hand, people like to zoom out and see a >> coher

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-17 Thread Greg Troxel
Paul Johnson writes: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:24 AM Mike N wrote: > >> >>I think many of the trunk VS motorway VS primary conflicts come from >> 2 points of view: on the one hand, people like to zoom out and see a >> coherent network of interconnected roads. > > In which case, rendering

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:24 AM Mike N wrote: > >I think many of the trunk VS motorway VS primary conflicts come from > 2 points of view: on the one hand, people like to zoom out and see a > coherent network of interconnected roads. In which case, rendering based on network on the route

[Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-17 Thread Mike N
I think many of the trunk VS motorway VS primary conflicts come from 2 points of view: on the one hand, people like to zoom out and see a coherent network of interconnected roads. On the other side, there is the group that prefers the road be classed according to its regional