Re: [Talk-us] Potential Mechanical Edit to remove access=private from Amazon Logistics driveways in NH

2020-08-30 Thread Greg Troxel
"Alex Weech" writes: > Another thing I just thought of over breakfast, in New Hampshire by > default private land has public access, and landowners have to post > that trespassing is not allowed. It could be that that's a quirk of > this part of the world, and other places don't have a posting

[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #527 2020-08-11-2020-08-17

2020-08-30 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 527, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/13612/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log

Re: [Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

2020-08-30 Thread stevea
On Aug 30, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Brian Stromberg wrote: > I would argue that maps can only show the world as the mapmaker wants it to > be shown, and OSM should probably not be encouraging people (in any way) to > be visiting sites that are clearly marked as illegal to visit. This seems > like a

Re: [Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

2020-08-30 Thread Brian Stromberg
I would argue that maps can only show the world as the mapmaker wants it to be shown, and OSM should probably not be encouraging people (in any way) to be visiting sites that are clearly marked as illegal to visit. This seems like a bad precedent to set. I would include the bunker but not mark it

[Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

2020-08-30 Thread stevea
Joseph asks good, relevant questions regarding whether the access tag should be private vs. no. But, yes, I agree Frederik, there absolutely should be one of these two tags with that sign you displayed. (I've seen it many times driving past here before the tunnel was built, it's a bit more

Re: [Talk-us] Trouble with getting Superior National Forest boundary to render on standard map

2020-08-30 Thread Clifford Snow
Paul, I don't have a definitive answer for you, but rendering usually takes a while for large areas. I would expect it to render when zoomed in but wasn't able to see any rendering on a couple of spot checks. I did notice that around islands either the forest or the island, are shifted. I would

Re: [Talk-us] Potential Mechanical Edit to remove access=private from Amazon Logistics driveways in NH

2020-08-30 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 9:02 AM Greg Troxel wrote: > On 8/30/20 11:00, Mike Thompson wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 8:04 AM Greg Troxel > > wrote: > > > > > > > >Being on someone's land without permission is trespassing, but > > this is > >

[Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

2020-08-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, "Devil's Slide Bunker" is a WW2 observation point near Pacifica in San Mateo County in California. OSM has the bunker listed as a "tourism=viewpoint", along with access tracks from the nearby CA-1 highway: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/37.56868/-122.51506 The area is technically on

Re: [Talk-us] Potential Mechanical Edit to remove access=private from Amazon Logistics driveways in NH

2020-08-30 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 8:04 AM Greg Troxel wrote: > > > Being on someone's land without permission is trespassing, but this is > not a crime. > not a crime, until the land owner asks you leave and you fail to do so, at least in Colorado. > > >

Re: [Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

2020-08-30 Thread brad
Agree, it seems pretty clear.   Even if the signs are universally ignored,  OSM shouldn't mislead everyone about the legality. On 8/30/20 12:01 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, "Devil's Slide Bunker" is a WW2 observation point near Pacifica in San Mateo County in California. OSM has the bunker

Re: [Talk-us] Potential Mechanical Edit to remove access=private from Amazon Logistics driveways in NH

2020-08-30 Thread Greg Troxel
On 8/30/20 11:00, Mike Thompson wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 8:04 AM Greg Troxel > wrote:   Being on someone's land without permission is trespassing, but this is   not a crime. not a crime, until the land owner asks you leave and you fail to do so,

Re: [Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

2020-08-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
Aug 30, 2020, 20:01 by frede...@remote.org: > > While it is undeniably a de-facto tourist attraction, and undeniably > offers great views, I think it should probably be changed to > historic=ruins, access=no, and the tracks leading up to it should also > be changed to access=no. > > Opinions?

Re: [Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

2020-08-30 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Is the track closed to everyone, or is it perhaps access=private, if the landowner has access? There is also a more specific tag for military bunkers: military=bunker https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Amilitary%3Dbunker - Joseph Eisenberg On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 12:16 PM brad wrote: >

[Talk-us] Trouble with getting Superior National Forest boundary to render on standard map

2020-08-30 Thread Paul White
Hello, I recently added the (super complicated) Superior National Forest boundary to OSM, because I noticed it was missing. However, it refuses to render on the standard map, even though I ran it through JOSM's validator with no problems. (link to relation)

Re: [Talk-us] Opinions on Devil's Slide Bunker (San Mateo, CA)

2020-08-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 8/30/20 22:08, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us wrote: > Though I wonder what should be done with viewpoint itself. In my mind, a viewpoint is not just something from where you have a nice view; it needs to be signposted or called a viewpoint. This, while enjoying some "destination" or