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Dave,
Dave Hansen wrote:
Can you share some of the scripts and methods you used for this?
I can but I had somewhat hoped to keep the ugly bits under the carpet. I
very much followed the ages-old software development method of meddling
through ;-)
So:
1. Create US extract from current
Hi,
Alan Mintz wrote:
In San Bernardino County, CA, all but two of these were cases where the
motorway_link was a ramp that had not been connected to the motorway (which
I fixed).
That's a valid concern (also voiced by Apollinaris Schoell) and I had
not thought about that.
I have now
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I'll make the Perl script available for download when it works properly.
http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/us-motorway-link-downgrade/fix-motorway-links.pl
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That would then flag them as modified, and cause my script not to
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Frederik Ramm wrote:
I would then run the script after the weekend if nobody has any
objections. (Anything that is changed by hand between now and then will
not be touched by the script.)
It is after the weekend in Central Europe ;-) and I've started the
automated edit. I deliberately
and then re-check the 2617
dangling motorway_links that were identified; those that have not been
fixed until then, I will upload to OpenStreetBugs and tell you when it's
done.
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(and see which area is currently processed). Like every edit, it can
also be reverted should the need arise, but of course reverting 100 days
worth of edits is something I'd rather not contemplate.
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the November target but we'll see.
I'll keep you posted on major developments, milestones, etc.
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Alan,
Alan Mintz wrote:
Is it actually random, or is there a way to know what order the counties
will be done in (i.e. to be able to have a rough idea when to watch out for
changes in my area of interest)?
It works according to a fixed list the contents of which are generated
at random
Hi,
Adam Schreiber wrote:
I would hope that and in the future a mapping mirror. The database
ought to move to being on more than one server.
I am interested to hear your proposals on conflict resolution, or
failing that, segmentation of our data.
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this but I always end up with
let's make distributed mirrors for reading but keep write accesses on
the central server to avoid trouble.
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more. Often it is also a different kind of person - doing
an import requires technical expertise but being socially inept is not a
problem, whereas you can successfully run a chapter without knowing what
a changeset is if you are a good communicator and motivator...
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to millions of
address range ways in places where no houses have been built, then
that's perhaps a bit confusing...
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Anthony wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
I would also strongly encourage you to use one such line on each side of the
road, instead of putting tags on the road itself. This makes it very clear
which side an address is on, better than any
. If a node is
found to be tagless after removing these, and the node is not used by
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Dave Hansen wrote:
There are still quite a few squeaky wheels that
like to grumble about TIGER, but I haven't heard a single person say
that it did more harm than good.
Well then you obviously haven't read the two latest entries in Matt
Amos' blog here,
could use that knowledge
to improve JOSM. (I'm cc'ing this to the JOSM-dev list.) - We are not
allowed to cheat our way out of the Javascript API, sadly, which means
we cannot retrieve the tiles directly even if we knew how to.
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Hi,
andrzej zaborowski wrote:
I have heard on IRC that Potlatch bends the API slightly to get these
images.
Ooh, evil... guess we'll have to ban it!
However, the only area Yahoo has better resolution than z=1
is the US where the imager comes from another source (calles USGS I
think) that
, rather than becoming members in all OSM
organisations in countries they want to map in!
Just my 2¢ though.
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by people on the ground, then I'd say it makes sense to have them
in OSM. If, on the other hand, your zip codes are not really used as a
geo reference, or if you think it is unlikely that the data can be
maintained by ordinary people, then I'd leave it out.
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Hi,
some of you may remember the unnecessary TIGER tag removal process
that I started in August. Of 177 million nodes with superfluous tags,
about 7 million remain today, which means we're almost through.
Quite a number of new nodes with superfluous tags have been added over
the course of
=0B00FTF.)
I'd suggest to modify Osmarender rather than the data, then.
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changeset in the Czech republic. D'oh. Check the number
please. And have you talked to NE2?
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is in a certain citiy etc. as the street having
an address, or would you?
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Hi,
Serge Wroclawski wrote:
Several people specifically asked me for a fully moderated list.
Then please ask these people to go look for a project that does not do
crowdsourcing. You cannot fix an engine without getting oil on your
hands, and you cannot reap the benefits of a crowdsourcing
.
It certainly is, I find myself plucking bits from my own script all the
time.
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As discussion progressed he was reminded of the Osmosis TagTransform
plugin which can already do a lot of work streamlining an OSM data
set. Surely not the answer to everything, but worth investigating.
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Hi,
Tyler Ritchie wrote:
That right there says more about the introductory documentation than
really anyone else has been able to articulate.
I'm struggling to find *any* method of signing up to OSM and modifying
data that makes it look like a game.
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the Potlatch
undelete feature to bring back that which you want to keep?
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Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Nathan,
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Anyway, could someone please help me revert? I lack the coding skills
to do the automated part, but can do the resulting cleanup.
If you can try to give
so YMMV.
Any license change in an open project is always a painful process for
the community.
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fit in with the legal reality in their
respective jurisdiction. Replace PD by CC0 or any long-winded phrase
that basically says that the author doesn't care if that makes you
happy; I'm also very fond of http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/.
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Hi,
Phil! Gold wrote:
* David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com [2010-05-14 23:58 -0400]:
5) The value of addr:street=* should contain the abbreviated form of
the street name according to USPS standards, regardless of the way the
street name is signed.
The point of addr:street is to associate
Hi,
Mike N. wrote:
This works only if the section tagged with layer = -1 only includes that
which is covered by the bridge. Tagging an entire road which happens to
pass under a bridge as layer = -1 does not match what's on the ground.
Correct. We have confounded many old-style GIS people
without Flash or even JavaScript. Likely to work even
in NCSA Mosaic ;-)
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mappers may take longer to finish. That is okay.
+1 to that.
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Ian,
Ian Dees wrote:
I got the impression after SotM US that there was a huge interest in
doing imports correctly. For me, correctly means the following:
0. Discuss with community (don't import if no community exists)
1. Get permission
1a. Discuss with community (don't import if no
not closed and the non-connected endpoints are painted red.
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Dear talk-us,
I'm now making daily OSM data extracts available for the US Census
Regions (as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us_regdiv.svg) on
download.geofabrik.de. I will not do a full US or full North America
extract because I think it is too big (anyone who can process that might
Hi,
On 10/16/2010 09:27 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
The extracts are in .osm.pbf format exclusively, you will need Osmosis 0.27
or the new pbf2osm (see dev list) to process them.
I meant 0.37, thanks Ian Dees for pointing that out.
I see, for example that this one for the NorthEast
they cool down.
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Richard,
On 10/17/2010 01:02 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
Frederik, are there a couple of representative edits for the community
to consider as well?
Here's a typical edit of Paul adding bicycle=destination:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5448874
And here's Nathan reverting it:
Hi,
On 10/17/2010 12:15 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
If we should continue to receive more complaints from or about the
individuals named in this posting, we will respond by banning both
accounts until they cool down.
Just to clarify our position in this regard: No matter which of the
parties
Tyler,
On 10/17/2010 01:57 AM, Tyler Ritchie wrote:
If we should continue to receive more complaints from or about the
individuals named in this posting, we will respond by banning both
accounts until they cool down.
How are you going to notice whether or not they've cooled down if
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Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
3. We will not be drawn into further discussion about this. Edit wars are
not an acceptable means of settling a dispute *even* if one is right.
What would have been the correct means
and demand that super-relations exclusively
contain relations etc.
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Hi,
Many route relations use addr:state to describe what state the route
is in. Should a tag intended for addresses be used this way, or is
is_in:state a better tag to use?
The addr:* family of tags was created exclusively with addressing in
mind. Only objects that have a postal address
of no shapefile generator that does. It would be possible to
write one and maybe someone has, without my knowledge. The osm2shp from
OSM's SVN certainly ignores relations.
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doing blanket imports again...
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permitting) write textual error messages directly
on the map, and you can click on highlighted things to retrieve details.
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On Fri, 27 May 2011 12:09:20 -0400
Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
There is at least one English language flyer around. If I recall the
biggest hold up is that nobody volunteered to do the actual mailings
from a US address. Is somebody willing to do that? ideally, the
volunteer
it. - This is the mode we're using in England.
Or alternatively, do it without our publisher, just print whatever you
want, wherever you want, and let OSMF-US pay for it. I have nothing
against the original flyer being used as a basis for that if someone
wants to.
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different kinks in their road network
system that would demand a slightly different approach to tagging. And
that wouldn't be a big deal. Diversity is one of OSM's strengths, not a
weakness.
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relation, they don't need tags
at all; keeping that tag will immediately tell everyone what this way is
for even if they don't look at relations (not all tools do that properly).
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://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/253754) but i'll defer to
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Hi,
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6601
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6667
Now that this one has been cleared up, what are the other cases you
mention in the subject line?
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the rest of the country.
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Hi,
On 10/01/2011 04:24 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
That consensus is very hard to reach :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:State_route_naming_conventions_poll/Account
Are any of the people mentioned by username on that page involved in OSM
today?
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Hi,
On 10/20/11 08:16, Toby Murray wrote:
Sorry for undoing what I'm sure was a good chunk of work but
unilaterally retagging other peoples work on a state-wide bases from a
thousand miles away and without prior discussion is not acceptable.
+1, if I may say so from a couple thousand miles
Hi,
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:14:03 -0600
Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
But let's discuss: are
address imports useful (I say yes, for geocoding and routing they're
indispensable), necessary (I say yes, potential OSM data users will
want to be able to do these things) and feasible (I say
without my help; I am sure it
would be quite a boost for the project.
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Maposmatic *ever* used tiles
from osm.org.
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to be a
black-and-white line drawing (more or less), now it does indeed seem to
be fed off the normal tiles. Sorry for that.
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address
and user name, it's just that these details are never revealed through
the API.
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that when you said we have no way of contacting
them you meant we the project, which would have been wrong - in fact
these people *have* all been contacted, most of them twice I believe -,
but if you say we the API users then yes, we have no way of contacting
them.
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, and I can't download the
osmChange XML. Frederik Ramm (woodpeck) has avoided the issue rather
than undoing his error.
I haven't avoided the issue, I have just refrained from letting you
label it as vandalism.
The changeset in question is problematic for two reasons; one is that it
deletes
.)
If that is desirable, I can undelete the nodes and revert the ways
thereafter.
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On 03/13/2012 08:20 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
If that is desirable, I can undelete the nodes and revert the ways
thereafter.
I'm willing to clean up if you do this. Thanks.
Done, all ways in Montana and Idaho reverted clean.
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, or EditYourGovernmentData or so.
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someone notices.
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Hi,
On 07/11/12 13:59, Mike N wrote:
The state capital region of Columbia, South Carolina will be a prime
test of the Do empty areas attract contributors? theory for some time
to come.
Why, is someone planning to remove the TIGER import in that area?
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data. Is that still sound advice?
I must say that I have rarely seen real people complain about things
like you mention - crossing ways etc.; it's just the validator that does
that. People will complain about other things.
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On 11.07.2012 17:44, Frederik Ramm wrote:
As RichardF has pointed out, Potlatch2 sorely lacks any kind of data
check. With the exception of unconnected road ends flashing aggressively.
I have been informed that I have no clue, and P2 never did that.
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, that has been remapped
already, or: this is really such a marginal feature that we don't need a
mapper to go there and survey it again). Red things trashed this way
become green. Update frequency is a couple times a day.
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Hi,
On 09/13/2012 03:12 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
Sounds like just such a planet is available,
... in a couple hours!
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and should have the same level of protection?
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a detail that people should be
made aware of.
Again, I applaud this new method of OSM editing and I think it can help
us a lot, but we must use it carefully.
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;)
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with the local language and social norms.
Just as we're trying to here ;)
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- it makes
perfect sense from the perspective of a database designer. But every
time we respond essentially with Apo's words above - nothing beats
addr:street in terms of sheer simplicity for everyone involved.
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?
I'd like to think that mankind has meanwhile learned to ask the
sustainability question, and certainly imports aren't sustainable.
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that makes you go uh, guess I'll
change the tags in the whole of the US then then you better ask someone
for another opinion ;)
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libraries or tools kicking around that folks might have
developed and would be willing to share?
Not a big help but there's a tool in SVN called osm-length that will
report how many metres of each highway type there are in any given OSM
XML file. Could be a start.
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