Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products

2009-06-13 Thread Lance Burger
To: Lance Burger Cc: brendan barrett; Grant Slater; Openstreetmap ZA Subject: Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Lance Burgerlance.bur...@mweb.co.za wrote: Using a copyrighted work as such is not an infringement

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products

2009-06-13 Thread Lance Burger
To: Nic Roets Cc: Openstreetmap ZA Subject: Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products Agreed, we want to keep whiter than white, which is why we've been going to great lengths to get permission from gov (SG, CD, SITA)... even though the municipalities (and even some private

[OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products

2009-06-12 Thread Grant Slater
OSM ZA, A few of us have been trying to get government data to include in OSM... While the Public Access to Information Act allows us to get the data relatively easily it does not answer the question of copyright and usage terms... I recently found the following draft(?) policy which might be

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products

2009-06-12 Thread Lance Burger
Sent: 12 June 2009 01:20 PM To: Grant Slater Cc: Openstreetmap ZA Subject: Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products I've seen those links, and you would think that the law is on our side. From what I understand, we still require permission to distribute the information

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products

2009-06-12 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Lance Burgerlance.bur...@mweb.co.za wrote: I had a look at the Spatial Data Infrastructure Act 54 of 2003 (now an Act, no longer a bill as referred to in the draft policy mention by Grant). There is nothing in that SDI Act that indicates that authorizes one to

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products

2009-06-12 Thread Lance Burger
an adaptation of the work are infringements in terms of section 7. Lance Burger -Original Message- From: Bernd Jendrissek [mailto:bernd.jendris...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 June 2009 03:51 PM To: Lance Burger Cc: brendan barrett; Grant Slater; Openstreetmap ZA Subject: Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products

2009-06-12 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Lance Burgerlance.bur...@mweb.co.za wrote: Using a copyrighted work as such is not an infringement (it is not an infringement to read a book which is subject to copyright), but both reproducing the work and making an adaptation of the work are infringements in

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products

2009-06-12 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Bernd Jendrissek bernd.jendris...@gmail.com wrote: The or parts thereof also leaves me thinking that using includes making derivative works. The sentence or two describing the required acknowledgement of State Copyright would also be moot if this was just a

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] State Copyright on Spatial Information Products

2009-06-12 Thread brendan barrett
Agreed, we want to keep whiter than white, which is why we've been going to great lengths to get permission from gov (SG, CD, SITA)... even though the municipalities (and even some private mapping companies - in Stellies and Mpumalanga) are literally throwing data at us. I've got CD's and emailed