one anyway
as it's only used to upgrade existing data.
In fact I thought I fixed the migration scripts to work without it now
so long as you don't have any data in the relevant tables?
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That and the the fact that it took forever to generate. The bzip one
is bad enough, 7zip was worse. For a full planet the time is measured
in hours, not minutes.
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the debate is here:
http://www.archive.org/details/Sotm07PanelDebate-LicensingOsmData
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find it hard to believe that
user=jos逴巜¯(R)退 (from the API) is correct.
The name doesn't make any more sense in a mysql command line, so I
don't think it's an osmosis problem.
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was basing it
on using a planet dump, but if you have an osm file then you should
be able to use that instead.
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and time
frame.
All edits are logged against the user id of the uploader anyway, so
that doesn't gain you anything (wikipedia does it because it allows
anonymous edits).
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And what has / is being done about it ?
We're waiting for somebody to write code to group edits into
changesets and allow them to be rolled back.
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All edits are logged against the user id of the uploader anyway, so
that doesn't gain you anything
Is this true with potatch as well ?
Yes.
Just curious, but what would
be suggesting blink next ;-)
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zoomed out to show the whole world
and there are three hundred attribution strings to display by the
way? It might be quite hard to see the map with them all displayed...
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if this is
a standard Ubuntu feature or a choice somebody made...
(b) The genius that wrote the Debian/Ubuntu mysql startup scripts
and made them do a check of all the tables every time it
starts so that it locks up tables for long periods while
it scans them.
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it might be possible, but I'll have to look into it. Send me the
details anyway.
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notifying system to alert the actual OSM contributors of new flags.
Not as nodes no. The plan is to have a separate table for such things.
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wouldn't worry too much (though I think I could do
it anyway).
I think the data model is the thing that really needs fixing down
properly - the rest is mostly pretty simple rails stuff.
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our own maps from our data is more of a convenience for us and a
way to promote the project than our primary product.
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| No, the plan is to have a separate note object and then to make the
| map api call return those objects so the editors can display them.
So if I am editing something, and I know I've
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What does the separate object type gain us exactly, apart from more code
to maintain?
It gives something that can record
not closed anymore (they obviously were before, as Mapnik render shows).
Good grief - it was only broken for about 10 minutes... Try it again now.
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where copyright applies, but in most countries copyright does
not apply to collections of facts and you have to rely on
database right in those countries where it exists. Where database
right does not exist the default position is that anybody can
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It was turned off because it causes too many problems as it doesn't
only capture keypresses aimed at the map. See:
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/659
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a page that
documents the HTTP API and expecting it to tell him the format
of a JOSM change file.
I don't know if there is a page anywhere that documents the
format of JOSM change files?
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Anyone know what to do about this?
Yes - Talk to Artem about adding support to mapnik for fallback
fonts, or find us a font we can use instead of DejaVu which is
known to support every possible glyph for every character set.
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in order to filter for instance on bridges, tunnels etc.
Converting those flag keys to boolean columns in the postgres
database would be the obvious answer, but I don't know if mapnik
supports boolean columns?
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not to deliberately misdescribe the data to try and
make the rendering look prettier.
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Indeed. I think the problem is that he is reading a page that
documents the HTTP API and expecting it to tell him the format
of a JOSM change file.
No, I was reading the page about HTTP
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is activating some
command? Like in the edit way mode:
- Press [Enter] to cancel
- Click somewhere on the map to extend the way
Enter doesn't cancel. Escape does.
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for example
http://webhotel.uni2.dk/dcf/cyklist/cyk20005/20005-07.htm (in Danish).
Usually called a hub dynamo in english I think. Obviously much
harder to retrofit than a rim dynamo however ;-)
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areas, although I know it is quite common.
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Since we have contradictory behaviour in the two renderers we can't
resolve this automatically unless osmarender can look and see on the fly
if there is a P node inside the area it is trying
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at the subsecond level then you're probably logging too frequently
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uploading those as evidence is really a good idea...
Or have I misunderstood what you're doing?
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when I posted last night. Unfortunately a few hours later the network
our machines are on at UCL appears to have ceased functioning...
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Forwarding to talk.
Because Grant never thought of sending it there Oh wait, he did
send it there, didn't he...
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be a good idea ;-)
If tagging for renderers is a bad idea then tagging for editors is
a bad idea as well in my opinion.
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I can set that up. I take it you're happy to act as list manager?
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in Italy just because we
are blank, but in context like London or Nederlands, new users could
be newer noticed and aproached.
Well hopefully they will set their home location and then they will
show up on the nearby users list for other people in the area.
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by is the track they came from so you might get points jumbled up from
different tracks.
The API deliberately tries to expose limited information about the
points for privacy reasons as some points may have come from traces
that are not public.
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given the hassle that
tends to be involved in upgrading PHP applications.
- enable the my tickets function in the trac
It isn't broken, as I have explained on your trac ticket.
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It doesn't matter though as there are so few users it isn't an
issue at the moment, and when it is we can always tile them like
the other tables with geo coords.
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* For non-logged-in users, we could either continue to show a dual
scale _or_ there could be a unit-switching option on screen. We could
even toss users a cookie to help recall that preference if that
doesn't seem too evil.
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a tag called french is likely to mean.
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The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different
countries in different ways. I don't believe we even know
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If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and
osmarender sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised
to tag appropriately. The moto 'render
, and I think it needs an
extrat level of indirection, so the existing stylesheet stays
largely as it is but instead of saying that a secondary road
is rendered as #213455 or whatever some sort of code name is
given and then that is mapped to the real colour based on the
country.
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to in another message ;-)
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MapOf is pretty slow though.
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these are manually tagged and not just bad TIGER data?
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allow you to write to - they are just an artefact of cutting the globe
(or rather a projection of the globe) into pieces for rendering.
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and being relatively new to OSM I am not sure what to put between
http:// and bmap.php.
That is only a proposal - it isn't actually implemented yet.
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for getting data from the
API, currently partially implemented in an svn branch [1] (waiting for
TomH to get back to me at the moment about some implementation choices -
his todo list is too long).
Now I've got the export tab out of the way I'm hoping to review that
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I think even Richard wouldn't mind too much making the AMF API use
the rails object model if it wasn't for the performance issues.
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I think the fact that it has its own API is a much bigger concern than
, in the way which they often
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To summarise I think we both want the same thing, but you perhaps
think somebody should just sit down and bang an AMF version of the
current XML API
The vast distance between that point and the rest of the way seems
to be confusing the rendering in Potlatch.
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The name for the new driver is navilink, so to recover waypoints
over the USB cable on linux you would do something like:
gpsbabel -w -f navilink -i /dev/ttyUSB0 -F gpx -o waypoints.gpx
or even:
gpsbabel -w -i
list of gpx tracks belonging
to me? I thought the rss feed would list me all of my traces... but it
only shows me the last 20 i've uploaded so far.
To put it simply, no, there is currently no way to do this.
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With -t it worked both over USB and reading the file from the SD card.
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a memory card yet.
If you are only logging internally then no.
If you were also logging to the SD card then yes - you will have
an NMEA format file (or files) on the SD card that you can convert
with gpsbabel.
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The timestamps should be in the original GPX file produced by
gpsbabel so that should be uploadable, and it is the original
trace we want, not something that has
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The timestamps should
for MOZ_FORCE_PAINT_AFTER_ONLOAD as a side
effect.
It's not immediately clear from the bug details that there is any
replacement - my best guess at the moment is that there is but that it
can only be activated programmatically, and possible only in debug
builds.
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would suggest that the YWMS team look into creating a lightweight
Firefox extension which uses some form of IPC to exchange data with the
running JOSM.
So what we need is a firefox expert...
I guess the alternative is a java native interface that invokes Gecko
directly or something?
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Well Y! would be hard as you would have to embed a web browser or
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It is nice. Unfortunately the need to warp the tiles onto the globe
means that there is a significant reduction in quality over the web
based version.
Under
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Well Y! would be hard as you would have to embed a web browser or
something as you can only access the images via Javascript or Flash.
Really? How can
it.
It is now re-enabled again, with the offending IP address blocked.
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it.
Are there any limit on how big osm xml should be downloaded using the
export tab?
Well the normal limits apply, so 0.25 square and 5 nodes.
This wasn't an XML download anyway, so I'm not sure it's relevant.
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What it should probably do in this case is to find the lowest value
and import that, as mapnik will want to render the border in the
most significant style. That might be expensive though.
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1mm further south.
The ability to indicate that some names can be peturbed a bit to find
space for them is something that would have to be added to mapnik
itself - it is something that has been discussed because there are
definitely cases where it would be useful.
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it in the
session. That token is then embedded in the edit page as a parameter to
the Potlatch applet.
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it in.
In fact that is probably the ideal way to access a file like that
as you effectively have one disk backed cache of the file that is
shared by all users of it.
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be exhausting your address space by having the physical memory mapped
multiple times. That's especially true on 32 bit systems where address
space is more limited.
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conference announcement also doesn't help but that will gone again in
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Is there a page where status information is published?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Platform_Status
Any projection, when these are fixed?
Lunchtime with a bit of luck...
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That's a waypoint - we don't import waypoints, only tracks.
If what you've got is just points that you're probably better
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That's a waypoint - we don't import waypoints, only tracks.
If what you've got is just points that you're probably better
off converting it to OSM rather
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That's a waypoint - we don't import waypoints, only tracks.
If what you've got is just points that you're probably better
off converting it to OSM rather than GPX format
to do it, and is why we recommend tagging
with the full names.
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, circumventing the
same-origin policy that applies to XmlHttpRequest.
That seems to assume that people should be trying to pull API data
directly into mashups, but that isn't really something we are currently
able to support from a load point of view.
Tom
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, and we’re only just getting close
to a full working free software implementation.
Java runs on Windows, Mac, Linux and Solaris and has been full, free
and working for years.
You're talking free as in beer. Simon was talking free as in freedom.
Tom
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then it delays the creation of the map.
Tom
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Where do I request for a creation of OSM Philippines mailing list?
I can sort it out. Are you going to be the list owner?
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