[Tango-L] Who invented the basic step?

2008-03-27 Thread Melroy
Thank you Martin for finally owning up, you're a brave man. Mel. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] The subject that never dies.

2008-03-27 Thread Andreas Wichter
Hello Floyd, you wrote: I have heard or read, and I don't know where, that the cross was indroduced about 75 years ago. In the 30's. I've taken it for some time now to have come from Europe. It is after all contrary to the rest of Tango. Can you explain why the cross is contrary to the

[Tango-L] Toe First?

2008-03-27 Thread Mario
From a student of Javier (a great walker) who sees walking 'toe first' as 'old fashioned'.. He teaches heel first and his student has the following to say; Don't worry about which way to walk, just walk naturally like you are walking on the street with emphasis on the launching foot.

[Tango-L] Heel First?

2008-03-27 Thread Mario
From a student of Detlef (another great walker.)who just came from a miloguero workshop .Your feet never leave the ground (except perhaps in the old milonguero style) as though there are rooted in the ground. The feet have roots in the ground. When you take that step forward, backward

Re: [Tango-L] Ecstasis and Control

2008-03-27 Thread buffmilonguera
sorry if others have already commented - I am trying to clear out a bunch of e-mails, when I ran into this - I don't know what, if any, relationship you had with your dance partner, Mario and perhaps she was comfortable with your tango - but I know a lot of new tango dancers read this list and

Re: [Tango-L] Heel First?

2008-03-27 Thread Tango Society of Central Illinois
On 3/27/08, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a student of Detlef (another great walker.)who just came from a miloguero workshop .Your feet never leave the ground (except perhaps in the old milonguero style) as though there are rooted in the ground. The feet have roots in the ground. .. as

[Tango-L] Ball first? Heel first?

2008-03-27 Thread Crrtango
First a correction. It is not the toe, but the ball of the foot that you are stepping on, as opposed to the heel and second, yes, it is more difficult to step on the ball at first, but it is also much smoother, more elegant and it keeps your weight over the ball which maintains your vertical

Re: [Tango-L] Toe First?

2008-03-27 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a student of Javier (a great walker) who sees walking 'toe first' as 'old fashioned'.. He teaches heel first and his student has the following to say; Don't worry about which way to walk, just walk naturally like you are

Re: [Tango-L] Who invented the basic step?

2008-03-27 Thread David
Martin, Thanks for clearing that up. Now could you tell us, is it Toe First or Heel First? David From: Martin Waxman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Tango-L] Who invented the basic step? To: tango-l@mit.edu I've been following this discussion for a

Re: [Tango-L] Who invented the basic step?

2008-03-27 Thread Tango For Her
Actually, I think, if you dance like Chicho, it's the inside of your foot first. But, seriously, is it okay to scratch your nose in the middle of a dance? Or, should you be like Rambo and tough it out? (Actually, Mario, good questions. I'm just getting a little punchy at work and the Martin

[Tango-L] Heel First?

2008-03-27 Thread Mario
..A recent video: Here is Javier in the few short walks that he does here, it is heal first; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Ed7aX7A44 ..any comments from others on a video is always appreciated..I learn how to see, that way. thks - Never miss

Re: [Tango-L] Heel First?

2008-03-27 Thread robin tara
Look again. He dances heel first when he is going forward with long steps. When dancing in shorter steps, or backwards, it's toe first. Robin On 3/27/08, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..A recent video: Here is Javier in the few short walks that he does here, it is heal first;

Re: [Tango-L]  Heel First?

2008-03-27 Thread Crrtango
re Javier and Andrea video: Yes, he does walk heel first in a straight line, but I don't think it looks very nice, and it seems more like a stylistic flourish since most of the other steps are on the ball first - the side steps and others, especially in the turns, which only illustrates my

Re: [Tango-L] Heel First?

2008-03-27 Thread steve pastor
I found these two pages a while back, and they do shed light on this topic. http://www.oandp.org/jpo/library/1997_01_010.asp http://www.oandp.org/jpo/library/1997_02_049.asp There is a huge amount of information here. One of the more interesting things is the detailed descriptions of how

Re: [Tango-L] Heel First?

2008-03-27 Thread robin tara
Try taking a really long step toe first - it doesn't work very well unless you really bend the launching leg. I think he is doing the natural thing On 3/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re Javier and Andrea video: Yes, he does walk heel first in a straight line, but I don't

Re: [Tango-L] Heel First?

2008-03-27 Thread Crrtango
Tang0man wrote: I found these two pages a while back, and they do shed light on this topic.   http://www.oandp.org/jpo/library/1997_01_010.asp   http://www.oandp.org/jpo/library/1997_02_049.asp   There is a huge amount of information here. It is also the problem. There is too much

[Tango-L] Toe/Heel?

2008-03-27 Thread NANCY
If you wish to 'dance like a milonguero' then your first stop should be all the articles and videos and analyses at http://www.tangoandchaos.org Rick and Alej have made an extensive study of the milongueros and spent hours talking with them. He constantly revises and adds to the information as

[Tango-L] WOBC 91.5 FM

2008-03-27 Thread TimmyTango
I forgot to mention, if you would like to listen to tango on your PC Tune into WOBC 91.5 FM from Oberlin College Sunday between 8:00 and 9:00 EST Go to www.WOBC.org and click on the big toe and you will be in the stream. ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on

Re: [Tango-L] heel / Toe

2008-03-27 Thread Dubravko Kakarigi
I was waiting and waiting for this subject to go away, but it wouldn't. So, I've got to say my piece. It'salmost as if those who are preoccupied with this so-called toe/heeldilemma really do not wish to dance but only to make that perfect step.Too many rules, folks! Whenever I hear you

Re: [Tango-L] WOBC 91.5 FM

2008-03-27 Thread sharif islam
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention, if you would like to listen to tango on your PC Tune into WOBC 91.5 FM from Oberlin College Sunday between 8:00 and 9:00 EST Go to www.WOBC.org and click on the big toe and you will be in the stream. There's

Re: [Tango-L] heel / Toe

2008-03-27 Thread Keith
Long steps, heel first and short steps ball first. This is pretty obvious but not very helpful. Most of the steps we take in Tango are neither long nor short and at what step length do we change from ball first to heel first? Most seem to agree on 2 things: 1. Ball first looks more refined