Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread Jack Dylan
Trini,   I know exactly what you're talking about and maybe I'm too cynical but I don't think the guys who dance with women who don't take classes are looking for feedback on their tango. I suspect their motives lie elsewhere. o_O If a man is really interested in tango, he's going to dance with

Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Jack Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know exactly what you're talking about and maybe I'm too cynical but I don't think the guys who dance with women who don't take classes are looking for feedback on their tango. I suspect their motives lie elsewhere. o_O Oh, no.

Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread Astrid
Jack Dylan wrote: If a man is really interested in tango, he's going to dance with women who are interested enough to take some classes and are actually learning how to dance properly and are not just stumbling around while hanging on to a man's neck. But, like I say, maybe I'm just too

Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread Niki Papapetrou
from my own personal experience, I stopped taking classes in my home town because the classes were all about STEPS ('put your left leg here, and then your right leg there...' ) I could just as easily practice technique in a milonga or in my own living room, without the 'pleasure ' of being

Re: [Tango-L] Gratuitous insults and social tango

2008-07-28 Thread Carol Shepherd
That last paragraph should say maybe because tango dancers are much MORE likely to come into tango as their first dance rather than from other ballroom experience where these are more frequently taught. Sorry-- Carol Shepherd wrote: To me social dancing is, simply, any partner dance that is

Re: [Tango-L] (no subject)

2008-07-28 Thread Chris, UK
every Neuvo element (not figure!) can, and should be, used to help interpret the music. We've seen countless great video examples e.g. on youtube of real tango dancing that is truly from the music. I don't recall one convincing example of nuevo dancing from the music. The examples of nuevo

Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread Astrid
The idea is to find an instructor who is able to teach you what you need to know. Tango is not really about where you put your legs, the lead comes first, the legs follow that. Niki Papapetrou wrote: from my own personal experience, I stopped taking classes in my home town because the

Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread Niki Papapetrou
exactly On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Astrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea is to find an instructor who is able to teach you what you need to know. Tango is not really about where you put your legs, the lead comes first, the legs follow that. Niki Papapetrou wrote: from my own

[Tango-L] Example of Nuevo dancing to the music. Was (no subject).

2008-07-28 Thread Brick Robbins
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11 +0100 (BST) From: Chris, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Tango-L] (no subject) I don't recall one convincing example of nuevo dancing from the music. How about this? http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualVideoID=5719494 (

Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread Bruce Stephens
Trini y Sean (PATangoS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] But the newer women still don't go. They think that because they know some steps, they don't need to take the lessons where they can really work on their technique. Maybe they don't need to go to classes/lessons. Maybe they're already

[Tango-L] Canadian Tango Film Festival

2008-07-28 Thread Mario
Hi Melina, This may be the link you are looking for.. mario http://www.bluemoon.tangoafficionado.com/ ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] Chris - decent Nuevo leads

2008-07-28 Thread flame
I don't recall one convincing example of nuevo dancing from the music. If anyone has a video of David's decent Nuevo leads who listen to and interpret the music, just as do dancers of all stripe then, please, let us all see it. Here's a video of a well known Bay Area couple who dance and teach

Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
You haven't seen some of these women dance. One was an actual danger on the dance floor with this uncontrollable leg that just had to do a sweep at every turn. But even the experienced guys (including the pickiest guy in our community) still danced with her because she was young and blond.

Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread steve pastor
My point is that when women have the bodywork and technique, then they can be lead into a colgada or volcada without having been taught the step.  However, getting to that point requires a lot of work   I am / was very sure that this was true regarding cose embrace / apilado. Now, as I watch

Re: [Tango-L] Chris - decent Nuevo leads

2008-07-28 Thread Barbara Garvey
Although I am not a fan of nuevo tango, the videos cited are both Homer and Christine Ladas of San Francisco, and even this traditionalist old lady can tell my fellow Nuevo bashers that they dance quite simply and beautifully in line of dance at traditional milongas. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching

2008-07-28 Thread Joe Grohens
What people think of as nuevo isn't really entirely new. Perhaps we should some up with a term other than nuevo like post-nuevo (sort of like modern architecture was in the 1940's and then came post-modern). They movement vocabulary associated with tango nuevo dancing is not really new

[Tango-L] (no subject)

2008-07-28 Thread Joe Grohens
Chrisjj wrote: I don't recall one convincing example of nuevo dancing from the music. Chicho/Eugenia to El Recodo - you might not like it, but it's on the music. And I think most people would agree with calling this couple's dance style tango nuevo.