On 9/20/2010 1:53 AM, Jack Dylan wrote:
I've been to Buenos Aires
where pretty much all the ladies in the milongas drape their left arm
around the man's shoulders.
Same for me. For social dancing, this where I prefer the ladies left arm:
Re: Women's tango posture with swayback bottom-thrust-out embrace:
Sherrie wrote:
I'm pretty sure this posture embrace is a fashion
among women, that ordinary women dancers learn
from the alpha females (teachers or performers)...
It's quite recent too, I never saw it 10 years ago
and started
- Original Message
From: Brian Dunn brianpd...@earthlink.net
Potential functional advantages of an arm-around-the-leader's-waist
embrace:
As long as we're discussing style, I invite similar non-judgmental
speculation on how the waiter-serving-drinks horizontal position of the
On 20/09/2010 08:40, Brian Dunn wrote:
=== Potential functional advantages of a swayback posture:
- Some women appear to express the music by sometimes doing very high
boleos, (backwards linear or Back-cross circular), either when led or as an
adornment on an otherwise simple tango moment.
Sherrie writes:
If you are not taught ... proper foot placement, good
walking, a firm embrace, you will not be able to be lead
well.
What is the difference between proper and improper foot
placement? Good and bad walking? How do I tell if my
embrace is not firm enough? Too firm? Just
Sergio lists a bunch of things he considers basic but
doesn't give consequences resulting from the lack of these
things. If I suffer no negative consequences from not
knowing the ocho cortado, then I don't need to know the
ocho cortado.
His list includes:
Navigation of the floor. Milonga
Michael writes:
Her foot moves first to establish support for her weight
after she steps.
Yes. First the foot, then the body.
women have to bend their knees so the free foot will move
backward as far as possible.
Not quite. Move the hip back to extend the reach of the
foot.
I need the
There is a mathematical distance function between two object that if the
distance between the two objects is sufficiently long enought( eg the open
embrace)the interdependency (or the dependance of one on the other) is negated.
That, is there is no measureable reliance of posture and balance
Original Message
From: Ming Mar ming_...@yahoo.com
What specifically about navigation would you teach?
Outside of the Rio Plata the milonga rules don't work. You
could, of course host your own authentic genuine downtown
Buenos Aires tango party and enforce the rules, but
On 20/09/2010 12:26, Ming Mar wrote:
What specifically about navigation would you teach?
That learning to dance is like learning to drive a car:
it's no use practicing 1000 hours outside of traffic,
and that when you learn how to drive and park you
should pretend there are others around you.
Yes but would they rather be dancing with their own age group or not?
My experience is that the men have more of an issue with this than the
women: they prefer to dance and socialize with their own age group.
Vince
In Melbourne
-Original Message-
You should come to Buenos Aires and
Beginning followers often begin with a swayback posture that needs to be
corrected. Sometimes when they are told that they need to take a longer step,
they interpret that as taking a long step down the dance floor, so a swayback
is their natural response to taking a long step. However, they
Jack writes:
Are you serious or is that written toungue-in-cheek?
I see I've confused you. By milonga rules I mean milonga
code. The code is a code of conduct -- rules of behavior.
You don't walk up to a girl and verbally ask her to dance;
you use la mirada, the look. There have been
- Original Message
From: Brian Dunn brianpd...@earthlink.net
Potential functional advantages of an arm-around-the-leader's-waist
embrace:
As long as we're discussing style, I invite similar non-judgmental
speculation on how the waiter-serving-drinks horizontal position of the
I regret I can't respond in rich text so I could use a different font and
color to differentiate my response to Ming's comments.
The hips are already back before the free foot moves. If the hip is pulled
to much backward, the woman will fall forward. The hips should only go
backward enough to
Folks make good points based on what they know, who they are, and how they
feel. At this moment.
We're definitely not all going to be the same at the same time.
Hearts in the right place always should count, no matter what.
(If I may say)?
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On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Keith Elshaw ke...@totango.net wrote:
Folks make good points based on what they know, who they are, and how they
feel. At this moment.
We're definitely not all going to be the same at the same time.
Hearts in the right place always should count, no matter
Well, Huck, after the workshop I attended yesterday, Sunday, as a leader, the
primary basic I had in mind was just for people to friggin' MOVE. It was an
advanced workshop on ganchos and the followers all had the same problem of
freezing as if they were deer in the headlights. Every single
What do you think are the tango
basics that should be learned,
Keith? I'm not picking up anything about that at all
from what you wrote
above. A whole bunch of us have given our
ideas, what are yours?
Huck
Honestly, about 2 minutes after I pressed send, I realized it would
Trini:
This reminds me of what Daniel Trenner said at Tango Locura in Montreal
where we met in 1999. (I hope I get it right.) People want to dance tango.
But before you learn to dance tango, you first have to learn how to dance.
But some people try to dance tango without going through dance.
Brick Robbins br...@brickrobbins.com wrote:
It has been my observation that many people who dance exclusivity in a
close embrace have issues with posture and balance, of which they are
not aware.
That's an interesting twist ... which one could reformulate to the
effect that, Since dancing
In response to my statement:
You should come to Buenos Aires and watch the glow on the faces of the
younger females who just got invited to dance by one of the old men
milongueros ...
Vince Bagusauskas wrote:
Yes but would they rather be dancing with their own age group or not?
Who? The
--- On Mon, 9/20/10, Brian Dunn brianpd...@earthlink.net wrote:
...and once the arms race (legs race?;) )is underway,
even the ones with flexibility have an incentive to push
the envelope even further. Wannabe followers
observe this, and a style is born.
I guess I disagree that the curvature
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