From: Mario sopel...@yahoo.com
I think that 'Salon' is simply the new catch word for covert 'performance'
tango.
I agree with Mario. In the past, there were 2 types of Tango - Social and Stage.
But Stage is beyond anyone but the most athletic and dedicated of dancers.
So, for demonstrating
I guess dancing isn't supposed to be fun when one is in training for 'dancing
with the stars'.
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I think that 'Salon' is simply the new catch word for covert 'performance'
tango.
I just don't see what is so performance-y in her dancing. She is
keeping her feet on the floor, doing
Hi David, yes i have lots of opinionsand probably don't 'know' much
about classes...but im trying to distiguish between what goes on in a social
dance and what goes on in a class..they seem to be different.. like the 'class'
is about a different dance.
I agree that the leader here
Until last year at least,, Salon was danced (in a mild form, without many of
the figures, but with the elegance) at Por Lo Celia, in Bs.As.. The style was
more about elegance than frontal connection. One does not need much space to
dance salon. Salon was danced more prior to 1980, when posture,
For those of you that don’t seem to be able to separate salon tango from
performance tango here are two videos that clearly show the difference. The
first video is Orlando Paiva dancing at Sunderland. Orlando was the master
of smooth elegant tango. Balance, axis, timing and connection. The
Notice also the following differences between the two videos: in the second,
there is the need of cramming in as many different types of steps as possible
within the duration of the song. That in itself is not a characteristic of show
tango, but is a characteristic of many dancers of the
I agree with all that you say. But the point is that almost no one dances or
teaches
the style of Orlando Paiva anymore.
The dance of Murat and Michelle, on the other hand, is the style that is danced
by many of today's teachers who describe their style as 'Salon'.
You're correct ... It’s
the video posted as Salon is to me 'performance dance'you may see that at
home in North America
on the social dance floor only because of the corruption of the social dance
there. The video stopped at the 52 second mark, shows a still picture of a
performance dance as the woman is held
I agree Jack, that almost no one teaches the style of Orlando Paiva
anymore, except his sun Orlando Jr. perhaps. However, that style is a
very particular type of Salon. I would place the following teachers in
the same category: Javier Rodriguez, Jorge Dispari, Mimi Santapa, Ney
Melo. While
I propose a different way of classifying salon or show tango - looking at what
the woman is doing. Is she the one being shown off? Are her ornaments
dominating the dance? I know when I perform, my ornaments are bigger. My
partner allows me to make them bigger or encourages it. When I'm
I agree with all that you say. But the point is that almost no one dances or
teaches
the style of Orlando Paiva anymore.
Not true. I do and have for years, as also do others outside of Argentina.
Admittedly and sadly in a minority nowadays but it depends on which circle you
travel in. That
Charles
Another thing I see is a lack of conviction when it comes to learning
tango. They think they can watch you tube or take a group class from a second
rate self-proclaimed wannabe “tango teacher” and 10 minutes later hit the
floor and bust a move. That’s tango today quick and easy no
From: Charles Roques c.roq...@mchsi.com
I agree with all that you say. But the point is that almost no one dances
or
teaches
the style of Orlando Paiva anymore.
Not true. I do and have for years, as also do others outside of Argentina.
That's my point. To me, Tango is what is
The fact is that before 1980, most people in Bs.As. danced the elegant
tango Salon style, although the Milonguero style was danced as well in
packed milongas. However, it is unlikely the milongas were as well
attended as they are now. The style of Todaro, Mingo Pugliese, Julio
Balmaceda and
Shakespeare answered that question in Romeo and Juliet with Juliet saying That
which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
There have been a numerous posts in the thread Tango Salon or Show? Other
terms have been thrown into the discussion: milonguero, apilado, performance,
You are correct Michael, we like to dissect. By the way, any dance that
is not improvised, is by definition, not social. Of course, if
improvised, it might be show or social.
I like the following from your post:
social dancing's objective is pleasing your partner; stage
(performance) dancing
Tango in Bs.As. takes a wide variety of form. For those who know (I do
not), how was tango danced in Bs.As. before the arrival of Susanna
Miller, who popularized the so-called frontal style (frontal contact),
suitable for crowded milongas?
It was danced close just as it always was. Susanna
From: Charles Roques c.roq...@mchsi.com
Susanna MIller is given far too much credit for something she didn't do.
People were dancing that way long before she supposedly popularized it.
Personally, I think Susana Miller deserves all the credit she receives.
Of course, she didn't invent
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