Re: [Tango-L] Using the social dance as THE model

2011-01-13 Thread Steve Littler
As should all organizers do. Just saying. El Stevito de Gainesville On 1/12/2011 8:50 AM, Dubravko Kakarigi wrote: As a milonga organizer, I will intervene if I see ppl continuously disturbing other dances. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu

[Tango-L] Navigation (was: Using the social dance as THE model)

2011-01-13 Thread RonTango
- Original Message From: Ming Mar ming_...@yahoo.com Mario writes: In this video we see two very experienced and capable social dancers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbUai1Lv5-0 I find it interesting that after he does 6-7-8 of the basic, the next step is a back step. I

Re: [Tango-L] Navigation (was: Using the social dance as THE model)

2011-01-13 Thread Jack Dylan
Excellent post, Ron!  Exactly what I was taught by milongueros in BsAs. Jack From: RonTango ronta...@rocketmail.com Almost every man who has any sense of navigation in the US proceeds around the floor walking facing forward in the direction of the ronda, using turns when forward

Re: [Tango-L] Navigation

2011-01-13 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Nice post, Ron.  Daniel Trenner is the only teacher I've had in recent memory to teach this navigation in beginning classes.  One teacher here has incorporated it into his beginning classes, but it's too early to tell what effect that has on those students' introduction into the community,

Re: [Tango-L] Navigation

2011-01-13 Thread Charles Roques
--- On Thu, 1/13/11, RonTango ronta...@rocketmail.com wrote: Almost every man who has any sense of navigation in the US proceeds around the floor walking facing forward in the direction of the ronda, using turns when forward progression is no longer feasible. This is how we have all been taught

Re: [Tango-L] Navigation

2011-01-13 Thread Sandhill Crane
--- On Thu, 1/13/11, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com wrote: I've also noticed issues with certain vocabulary since milonguero style has become more prevalent.  Such as women having more difficulty recognizing moments to cross and anticipating ocho cortado rather than forward ochos. 

Re: [Tango-L] Navigation

2011-01-13 Thread Gordon Erlebacher
Alberto Paz from New Orleans taught us to face the wall when we start. He said on our very first tango lesson 7 years ago: In tango: the woman turns around the man, and the mean turns around the floor. The implication clearly was that the dance was circular and not linear. Thanks Alberto: you

[Tango-L] avoiding the volcada

2011-01-13 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
Sandhill, i've had that disconcerting experience. i learned that i can avoid the unintended volcada of those followers so inclined to do it (pun intended) if i remember to relax the embrace just a bit right before her forward step, to remove any implication that i might be supporting her weight

Re: [Tango-L] Navigation: Now ocho cortado

2011-01-13 Thread Michael
Hello Trini: The problem with not being able to execute the ocho cortado is FRAME. The man steps sideways to his right for a rock step, and then rotates his shoulders to the left with a slight lift, closing his feet. The woman should step side left but not commit her weight to the left foot

Re: [Tango-L] Navigation (was: Using the social dance as THE model)

2011-01-13 Thread Anton Stanley
From a recent post:in the video is a good example), the men start the dance facing the tables, with the woman with her back to the tables. I can't say that I've noticed this as being the norm at Lo de Celia or anywhere else in Bs As. It could be that I simple wasn't aware. But I do think

Re: [Tango-L] Navigation (was: Using the social dance as THE model)

2011-01-13 Thread Anton Stanley
Oops, I left out a biggy. Cutting in. G. Anton -Original Message- From: tango-l-boun...@mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-boun...@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Anton Stanley Sent: Friday, 14 January 2011 10:28 AM To: Tango-L@mit.edu Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Navigation (was: Using the social dance

Re: [Tango-L] Navigation (was: Using the social dance as THE model)

2011-01-13 Thread Jack Dylan
From: Anton Stanley an...@alidas.com.au   I often start with my back to the ronda or to the tables, FWIW, I've been taught that this is not good practise because it leaves the lady vulnerable and unprotected from the other dancers. With her back to the tables, in the outer ronda, she's

Re: [Tango-L] avoiding the volcada

2011-01-13 Thread Sandhill Crane
--- On Thu, 1/13/11, Nussbaum, Martin mnuss...@law.nyc.gov wrote: Sandhill, i've had that disconcerting experience.  i learned that i can avoid the unintended volcada of those followers so inclined to do it (pun intended) if i remember to relax the embrace just a bit right before her forward

[Tango-L] In tango, the woman turns around the man? was: Navigation

2011-01-13 Thread Sandhill Crane
--- On Thu, 1/13/11, Gordon Erlebacher gerlebac...@fsu.edu wrote: Alberto Paz from New Orleans taught us to face the wall when we start. He said on our very first tango lesson 7 years ago: In tango: the woman turns around the man, and the mean turns around the floor. The implication