Hola listeros,
As some of you know, Bajofondo is on a North American tour. Traditionalists
might not like to dance to their music, but I still recommend traditionalists
to go their show. Think of it as a fun cultural experience. If you don't want
to think of them as a tango band, then
system which was the absolute best.. (They
know sound, as they also have a recording studio). The
acoustics and speaker arrangements were perfect. Job well
done to everyone on all levels.
Joanne Pogros
Cleveland, Ohio
-Original Message-
From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan
--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Amaury de Siqueira amauryc...@yahoo.com wrote:
Tango is a social activity which I construed to mean that
we are operating in a social environment... for me to be
social is not to have a critical list of prerequisites
guiding who I dance or not with. To be social is to
Thanks, Brian, for pointing out that milongas have a flow and are not static
things.
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Huck Kennedy tempeh...@gmail.com wrote:
The man shouldn't lead anything allowing her to do
that? The leader in the video is doing nothing more than leading
simple tango. How is
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Tango Society of Central Illinois
tango.soci...@gmail.com wrote:
Mario has a point. Paula may adapt her dance to floor conditions, but what
are the women observers learning from the demonstration? Are they
thinking 'This is an exhibition. I would never do this on a
--- On Tue, 3/17/09, Mario sopel...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQKtQxz0mV8
What I disagree with in this video, is alienating the
student from an already asimulated part of him/herself. Taking what
would be familiar and making it foreign..
Mario, I have no idea where
--- On Fri, 3/20/09, larry...@juno.com larry...@juno.com wrote:
So. How do you decide who to dance with?
At local milongas, it depends primarily on the music for me. Since beginners
arrive earlier to milongas than experienced dancers, it's common for music
earlier in the milonga to be
--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Jack Dylan jackdylan...@yahoo.com wrote:
I think 'Rebound' is the modern terminology and
'Rock-step'
is the older terminology. Also called an 'Amague'
or 'fake'.
A rebound is something different and has more elasticity, like a rubber band.
An amague is an ornament.
Reining a wild horse is what Daniel Trenner describes when he talks about
leading and following. The woman goes and the man stops her. She dances. He
puts himself in her dance. Hence, the use of hands to stop.
There's value to this way of thinking. I don't know how many times, I've
--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Kristina Bohm kristina...@gmail.com wrote:
What do you think of close embrance after a guy
has been dancing several hours and is totally soaked in his sweat?... I,
personally love both, close and open embrace. But recently I had to say 'no'
to a great dancer whom I
--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Jay Rabe jayr...@hotmail.com wrote:
As we were
dancing, she asked, I missed the cross, didn't
I? I said yes, and suggested she bend her standing
knee a bit more and take slightly bigger back steps, which
separates our feet a bit more and keeps her weight more
forward,
I don't see how slandering someone and straight out telling lies could be seen
as a joke. In my opinion, it's an insult to the purpose of this list. So far,
there has not been a retraction or explanation by Klaus or no apology to Damian
that we know of. Klaus' post was not funny. It was
I agree with others about etiquette at milongas entailing not correcting people
while dancing. However, it's important to understand why. Tango is an
artistic expression, and one cannot express oneself fully if one is also
worrying about whether what she is doing is wrong or not. If the
Thanks, Dave, for digging up more info on the clip.
A friend, Steve Pastor, sent me this with a request to send to the list. It's
couple of archived emails concerning a book that Richard Powers referenced on
early Argentine Tango.
It has to do with Richard Powers interpretation of early
A friend sent me this. The opening suggests that it is the ragtime version of
Argentine Tango. The clip was made for archival purposes and appears to have
been reconstructed from an early dance manual(s) from the Library of Congress.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/musdivid/080s.mov
Is the practica a real practica or a milonga in disguise? If it's a practica,
she's free to approach men to practice with her.
Trini de Pittsburgh
--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Vince Bagusauskas vy...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Vince Bagusauskas vy...@hotmail.com
Subject: [Tango-L] Waiting for a
Forgive me, Damian, for cc'ing you although you have already unsubscribed, but
I've only just read today's exchanges.
I can't help but think that those who responded to the Chicho thread may have
mistakenly assumed what chest lead meant. That everyone was talking about
the same thing. I tend
--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Klaus Radek tangow...@googlemail.com wrote:
From: Klaus Radek tangow...@googlemail.com
Subject: [Tango-L] Very smooth tango
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 6:32 PM
Over recent time I have watched Mario search to find
dancers, and dances, that move
--- On Mon, 12/22/08, skindance skinda...@juno.com wrote:
the one is held, NOT skipped, shaken or
stirred. Musicians must have
rolled their eyes as they thought of music starting on 4, 3
or even 2.
Good point. As a follower, it would feel awkward to me if the 1 wasn't marked
in some
--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Michael tangoman...@cavtel.net wrote:
Good explanation. My explanation is based on how a man sets
up ochos. He does a double time step to get onto the SAME
foot as the woman. In syncopated rhythm, instead of ONLY the
man dancing double time, BOTH partners dance double
Warning - if you're only in the feel and move camp and don't care for
thinking, hit your delete key.
--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Jay Rabe jayr...@hotmail.com wrote:
If, however, the man changes his weight at 12 3,
and steps out for the ocho at 12, then he is dancing a
syncopated rhythm.
--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Jack Dylan jackdylan...@yahoo.com wrote:
So if I'm dancing to what I 'hear' in the
music, I lead my partner to do the same, i.e. to dance to what I hear, not
what she hears.
What I was referring to (and I think Jay experiences this, too) is when the
woman doesn't hear
Mario, this is a narrow way of thinking. Do you realize that some of the
teachers you've praised on this list do not care for milonga?
We all have our own interpretations of the music. How we hear the music ends
up affecting us, whether we realize it or not. People who write the music for
--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Felix Delgado felixydelg...@hotmail.com wrote:
Here is an example of a performance by my favorite
tango nuevo dancers,
Sebastian Arce and Mariana Montes. I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LR-Us0-a48
I find this not stepping to each beat very odd. I've
always
--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The above quote has me wondering...since all Tango embraces
are asymmetrical:
(..the asymmetrical nature of the embrace, closed on
one side, more open on the other.) I was originaly taught chest to chest
when in my first close embrace
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Tango Society of Central Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The tango instructors from Argentina teaching in the US represent the sampling
error in teaching primarily nuevo and fantasia, explicitly or
implicitly represented as social tango, which it is not in Buenos
Trini, here. It appears to me that underlying the acceptance of certain forms
of tango is this feeling that people are too stupid or lazy to want to do
better forms of tango. No rules or judgements. I don't believe that. I
believe that if people are informed, then they can make decisions
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Vince Bagusauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A
large minority to tango seem in the main want to do
fantasia so how do I
satisfy their needs while getting enough dances of my own?
In what context? As a teacher, deejay, organizer, or fellow dancer?
Trini de Pittsburgh
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Vince Bagusauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fellow dancer of course.
I don't quite understand why you might want to assume responsibility for
someone else's dance. But in any case, the fantasia lovers can simply adjust
their schedule to meet the requirements on the
--- On Wed, 11/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Touche! Admittedly, Petroleo is not the best example of
elegance, but Virulazo is, or Chino, who is still dancing.
I read the text in the second post, which was about the evolution of the
embrace from a side embrace to a
--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Sergey Kazachenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Speaking of barridas, sweeps and drags...
How do Argentinians define the difference between a barrida
and an arrastre? I've heard one teacher saying that an arrastre is when
the foot goes linear past the lady's standing foot,
Hi all,
Since there's been some reference to tango being changed to whatever the users
want it to be recently, I've been thinking of the factors that cause tango or
dance to evolve. While I agree with many that tango does evolve, I don't
believe that it happens willy-nilly. That anybody can
--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jorge Firpo, here, is giving a demo at his class. The
woman is not even named and so it is probably an advanced student. I really
like this dance. It is plain to see that Jorge has the chispa that keeps a
dance interesting and dynamic..
--- On Thu, 11/20/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry Michael but I disagree about the barrida. The
barrida (sweep, like a broom, in Spanish, or loosely, slide or drag) is
definitely led, and does involve actually moving the follower's foot, but as
with some other steps
--- On Wed, 11/19/08, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
posts, but not so much with this one. I can accept that it's not your
cup of tea, as we all have our personal preferences. IMO, elegance (as you
put it) is not the end all be all to a good dance.
I didn't say that elegance is the end
--- On Wed, 11/19/08, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
posts, but not so much with this one. I can accept that it's not your
cup of tea, as we all have our personal preferences. IMO, elegance (as you
put it) is not the end all be all to a good dance.
I didn't say that elegance is the end
--- On Wed, 11/19/08, Myk Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Argentine Tango is a social dance, with no ruling body to define and
control it. As such, it is free to adapt to changing preferences of the
people who dance it.
-
That’s an excuse, not a reason. There’s a difference. Good
--- On Wed, 11/19/08, Myk Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was replying to Anton's comments, not Mario's.
Anton was expressing a desire for some potent authority to define Tango and
make it easier to assess.
I didn't read that in Anton's statement, but I did read a reflection of what I
--- On Wed, 11/19/08, Vince Bagusauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But what of this formal presentation stuff? Are there not
different and older styles of tango that can have bad
posture and funny little steps compared to salon
tango?
I don't know of any, but styles of dancing back then were
My, Mario, you are too easily impressed. His arm thing is something I'd
attribute to personal style. It's a shame when young people sacrifice elegance
for the sake of steps, which is what this couple is doing. The head positions
are terrible, and it wouldn't take much to fix it. A talented
--- On Mon, 11/10/08, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering if anyone in this forum could comment on
similar experiences and maybe tell us something about the proceedures used at
their's. ..all comments welcome
For the past 6 years we've had a real practica, not a practilonga, on a
Mario, that was salon tango. No nuevo. And well-done, I might add. Nuevo to
DiSarli? Personally, I shudder at the thought.
Trini
--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dörte Ricklefsen y Ramiro Gigliotti - Mi Refugio - Di Sarli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roNnIkrkfAY
The codes are really just basic instinct. For example, if you are walking down
the street and want to avoid some icky person heading toward you in the
opposite direction, you avoid eye contact. If the person looks okay, you may
say nod, smile or offer a greeting as you pass.
Anyone know of
Chill, Jack. I don't think Mario expressed anything too differently than what
others have said in the past/present about such videos. It's good that he is
questioning. Much better than the dogma that so many people espouse.
Others have presented thoughts that I have, so I'll just add one.
--- On Sat, 11/8/08, Nikos Dalamagkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but what about if you see this in a milonga and all the
people there
dancing this way, after some years?
Moreover they think this is tango, and they are advanced.
But you don't know that about this particular group of
I occasionally find that the posts take several days to reach by in-box. If in
doubt, you can always check the Tango-l achives to see what's been sent. I
know there's a more official one, but here's the link I have in my favorites.
http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/2006/
Hi all,
If I recall correctly, some of you on this list may have organized or
participated in an Open House event that brought all of the local teachers
together. I'm trying to do something similar (about 4 teaching couples) to
attract new people and to promote greater cooperation.
I'd
Nice video, Matin. As a follower, I personally find it interesting when the
man does musical footwork while he's leading me something basic (like back
crosses) in place. It's also cool when he just stands there while leading me
into things. Or perhaps he's playing with my free foot (we
There might be some confusion of issues, here. I've seen lots of Argentine
teachers use counts, but they use them to teach patterns not musicality.
Argentine instructors seem to use nonsense phrases to indicate musicality,
including rolling their r's. Americans don't really have any good
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Melina and Detleff doing their interpretation of a Milonga
This has got to be the most different looking Milonga
that I've yet seen on YouTube
Wow, super control and discipline introduced into a song
that sings more of freedom
and
--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Tom Stermitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Leading another person well is a very deep experience, like a martial arts.
Doing it yourself is extremely enlightening.
That's the main benefit. There are a number of other
reasons. For example
- The follower learns technique
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Lois Donnay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you get leaders to work on following?
Maybe tricking them is the way to go. Perhaps having the men do a combination
that has them doing variations on the molinete as leaders. Or perhaps they are
the ones doing the backward
--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't get it...why is the guy always the
'heavy'?
Are men always the 'stupid' one? Always who
'needs improvement'?
Always too thick to 'understand' that they should
learn to dance in the woman's shoes, too?
This just sounds like
--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Myk Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To be honest, if it was just social dancing, I'd
be less likely to attend.
Can I ask why?
The price of gas has made traveling a lot less attractive, so we don't even go
to DC anymore just to dance socially, either. But if
To Myk Dowling's question, the Ann Arbor tango group initially started May
Madness as just social dancing and a BBQ, but workshops were eventually added
on. This is an event that people will drive from at least 4 hours out, so
perhaps they figured that adding workshops will make it more
--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Nina Pesochinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The important thing to remember is that we do not always know
what might trigger the other person.
You're right, Nina, and although I appreciate your sensitivity toward others, I
do not espouse taking responsibility for
--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Jack Dylan wrote:
Wow, some of you guys are tough. It seems that Sean will not only not dance
with women who are not good dancers but with women who agree to dance with men
who are not good dancers.
Hi Jack,
I don't mean to be tough, punative, or to prevent other guys
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From there, we had some discussion on what an
invitation is. At one point I was thinking that some might
be happier if the terms Leader and Follower were changed to
Inviter and Decider (as some appear to have strong
opposition to the
--- On Thu, 9/25/08, David Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Spose that she sees that the floor behind me is clear (we DO NOT run into
people or even threaten to!!!) and wants to play a little. She might
over-rotate, stepping into me, and compelling my receiving
step to actually be counter
Nina, I always enjoy your posts, but please remember that you're free to use
your delete key.
--- On Thu, 9/25/08, David Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know how you know my regular partner's
skill level.
I mentioned in a prior post that I can lead with
clarity(?), and she will
--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Alexis Cousein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whether resist is an appropriate word is a matter of semantics. And I
disagree that it's totally unkosher for her to force room or take over,
at least if you understand the context (i.e. don't take the words
as if they came from
--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Alexis Cousein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But given a lead is an invitation, she can certainly
*resist* a lead, i.e. change the timing. She can even take over the lead
momentarily (which is no problem with me, but bruises the ego of some other
leaders) . Given that the
--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Anne wrote:
- but the resistance is more often the ONLY response to a poor lead...the only
physical means to let the leader know he is inviting a poor lead that is
impossible to follow...
Sean here.
1. Hi Anne, would you reconsider that position? I think ONLY is a limit
Sean here. If you were to search through the archives, you would find that I
once thought like Mario does. With only 4 or 5 years experience, I was barely a
tango beginner...
Mario, I know you are excited and enthusiastic about your new hobby, but
please, aquire a decade or 2 of experience
--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I dare say that, in North America, who leads and who
follows will soon have to be negotiated...hence, the
confusion. Certainly expecting a woman to follow everything
you lead, without negotiation first, would be terribly
demanding and
--- On Wed, 9/17/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Sean: does it grant me wisdom and remove intelligence? ; )
Hi Adriana,
I don't think the 2 are related. So it should be possible to gain wisdom over
the course of ones life, without losing any intelligence. ; )
Perhaps I am using the terms too
Hola Sergio,
Sean again. I appreciate the efforts you have made for more than a decade to
preserve the civility of this list, and I have a great deal of respect for the
opinions you express here. But I must respectfully disagree with you regarding
the criticism of videos presented to the list.
Jean-Pierre,
Thanks for sharing your video, however, it looks to me as if your partner
allows her back to collapse during the carpa instead of maintaining a strong
core. I think your video needs more information on that aspect and on what you
mean by support so that the women are protected.
How about a fee that covers the entire semester instead of just an event? So
if they pay for a milonga, they are part of the club for the rest of the
semester? Maybe 2 different levels of club participation based on what they
can afford. If they see themselves as part of a club, rather than
Hi Victor,
I agree with Andreas' comments. If you're just starting out, I'd suggest
sticking with the formula of sandwiching two weaker pieces between the two
strongest pieces. Also, watch that the tempo goes consistently from slower to
faster or faster to slower. The latter is done in the
Your post is insightful, Larry. The video also takes place in a large hall
with plenty of room. In a more crowded room, Puppy might dance quite
differently, without the space between couples. Geraldine's parents (who
influenced Geraldine) are from Villa Urquiza, I think. Anyone know where
--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Nina Pesochinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can read the archives of the tango-l. There is a story
in detail about how Susana Miller invented the term
milonguero when she began teaching in the early 1990s. The reason that
Puppy and others didn't say that they danced
--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Joe Grohens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, let's say that my way of dancing can be classified
according to a named type.
What will you base it on?
- Instructional pedigree?
- Dance features that suggest a family resemblance?
- The dance circles I associate with?
- My
--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Dubravko Kakarigi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The way I understand what Trini is talking about is that
every dancer eventually (the sooner the better) finds his or
her own body which then, to a large extent, forms the basis
for his or her own style -- unique in time and
Joe,
While I appreciate many of your points in the first part of your post, I have a
differing opinion on the latter half. You may not be thinking that you dance a
style, but in reality you do dance a style, so it's fair for people to ask or
to classify what you do. Although dance styles are
Let's be more specific. It's not the use of the hands that's the problem.
It's the TIMING. It's when the man is impatient and doesn't respect my timing
that I feel that he's pushing or pulling me, even if he is trying not to use
his hands. Imagine a hoola-hoop being placed around the woman,
Since I can only post 1 more time today, I'll have to kill 2 birds with 1 stone:
On Teaching:
My experience mirrors that of Lois and my preferred teaching style starts
beginners off in close-embrace, even though I used to teach in open-embrace.
However, there are too many factors in the
I think a lot of the dance is missing because you don't see the feet, where
most of the action is. Most of the video is of the upper body. We also don't
see how the woman ornaments the dance. For all we know, he might have been
giving her time to play musically, which might give it more of a
--- On Mon, 7/28/08, steve pastor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: steve pastor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching
To: Tango-L Tango-L@mit.edu
Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 7:24 PM
My point is that when women have the bodywork and
technique,
--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Jack Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know exactly what you're talking about and maybe
I'm too cynical but I don't think the guys who dance with women who don't
take classes are looking for feedback on their tango. I suspect their motives
lie elsewhere. o_O
Oh, no.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching
To: Tango-L Tango-L@mit.edu
Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 1:15 PM
Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
But the newer women still don't go. They think
that because they
know some
--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Jack Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Jack Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Nuevo lead and follow and repressed teaching
To: Tango-L Tango-L@mit.edu
Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 2:28 PM
Trini,
Very true. When a lady is tipped into a Vocada, she needs
But I think that a problem with a lot of today's tango
groups is that they don't have any idea what it means to play for
dancing.
I think the problem of musicians not having an idea of what it is like to play
for dancers is less and less of an issue every year. I have not really
--- On Tue, 7/22/08, Jack Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pupi Castello was correct and I think everyone who learns
tango discovers this for himself.
Which I suspect is why many people enjoy Nuevo. No need
to worry about that pesky walk :-)
Jack
Well, I enjoy Nuevo because it's just
--- On Mon, 6/9/08, Deby Novitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Deby Novitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Tango-L] Posing in tango
To: tango-l@mit.edu, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 2:17 PM
Let's see if this post makes the list. I have been
censored on and off
and for
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Before I went I scanned the last couple of years of
TANGO-L archives for pointers on following, since I went
to learn how to follow. I found enough on leading to
fill a doctoral dissertation but almost nothing on
following - unless you count
--- Dubravko Kakarigi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, I suppose the bottom
line for me is that tango dance is about beauty and ways
to discover, create, and share beauty.
That's a nice way of looking at it. Aside from dancing
with my husband, the tandas I look forward to the most are
the ones
So if tango is supposed to be about the emotional
connection which can only be felt between partners, can
somebody tell me why people are looking for videos to
measure this quality?
The man-woman thing can also be taken too far in these
discussions. I mean, that's like saying that every man
Hi Jackie,
If I were organizer A, I'd do one heck of a job promoting
my instructors for the workshop. But I also wouldn't go
overboard and give people the feeling that their asking to
choose loyalties (it doesn't do anyone any good if the
attendees don't feel good about their choices). Not
--- Floyd Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for the actual judging? .. Groups comprised of people
who are *friendly* to the particular type or style of Tango
that's in the applicant's demo cd's.
Have folks paid attention to how a student introduces a
teacher or how a teacher
--- Floyd Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I spent nearly ten years in a Tango wasteland studying what
was behind it all... Without (for the most part) being able
to dance it myself. But that did not stop the understand
of it. I concentrated on the origins and concepts. How and
why it came
Floyd,
Trini, here. I understand where you're coming from. We've
swallowed a lot of losses ourselves when we first started
our group. And I don't think anyone will truly know how
much work an organizer does, except another organizer.
You should be quite proud of the fact that you've created
--- Chris, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is nonsense. A good leader needs only the girl to
stay on his chest.
Sean here. 99% of what is written on this list is nonsense.
Now I remember why I quit writing.
But Chris did have some good observations about
communities. As he pointed out, an
--- Chris, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trini wrote:
In a lot of small communities, tango gets started
through people pooling their resources to form
non-profits. Officers are often elected as a legal
requirement to share a balance of power. That is how
things are often done in the States.
--- Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've always believed that the man should change weight so
that the lady doesn't even feel it. If she does feel it,
she should follow it unless the man prevents that in some
way, eg. 'suspension'.
---
Hi Keith,
Sean here. Personally, I would be amazed by any
--- robin tara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yesterday I was assisting Reuben Aybar, here in Buenos
Aires, and we taught a man to change weight without his
partner feeling it, in about 5 minutes. The words weight
change is misleading though. What he learned was how to
change feet without his partner
Chris,
I think we have a different idea about community. You are
also confusing a common business structure of an enterprise
with the idea of community. In a lot of small communities,
tango gets started through people pooling their resources
to form non-profits. Officers are often elected as a
--- Tango Society of Central Illinois
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Each dancer needs to be comfortable with their movements.
Different anatomical characteristics, including injury,
will make a 'one size fits all' approach inapplicable.
Dancers who are made to feel uncomfortable in their bodies
--- Chris, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if one is to continue to be a community leader, then
one must be willing to make decisions, take
responsibility, and lead. ... you either have the trust of
your community or you don't.
One has to wonder as to the unique factors of third world
tango
Hi folks,
Now that I have more time, I'd thought I'd share my policy
for dealing with this sensitive issue. Perhaps it will
help others who need to deal with people exhibiting
undesirable behavior.
The bottom line for me is this:
- Does someone's repeated actions create an unhealthy
learning
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