Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-09 Thread HBBOOGIE1
Another problem I've witnessed is a man approaching a group of ladies, extending his hand directly in front of the lady he's asking to dance with and getting turned down so he simply moves to the next in line and asks her to dance? All of the ladies know that she wasn't his first choice and

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread robin tara
Jack wrote: If a girl turns you down at a milonga, without a good reason, don't ask her again. As you improve, it'll be her loss. Dear Jack, There are so many unexplainable reasons why a woman might refuse a dance that it is unfair to blackball a woman because she won't dance with you at that

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Alexis Cousein
Mario wrote: The woman can place her hand on his right shoulder saying: this close and no closer...That hurts too. That's entirely a self-inflicted wound. I suggest shedding some sense of entitlement. You'll see that the world is a much less frustrating place when you consider it's full of

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread johnofbris...@tiscali.co.uk
I have been dancing since 1961 and one of the first lessons I had to learn was: if someone turns you down for a dance, for any reason or none, don't EVER ask her again. The rejection will only be crueller next time. John Ward Bristol, UK Get £25 off a case of wine with Tiscali's Naked

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Alexis Cousein
johnofbris...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I have been dancing since 1961 and one of the first lessons I had to learn was: if someone turns you down for a dance, for any reason or none, don't EVER ask her again. The rejection will only be crueller next time. And, of course, protecting you from

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
-- Mario sopel...@yahoo.com wrote: -- Last nite, a woman remarked to me in a practica; Move your right arm lower you are lifting mine!...hmm, that's a new complaint and so I asked How tall are you? in order to file the information and apply it where appropriate..What does that have to do

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Donald Sinclair
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:44 PM, robin tara robinct...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Jack, snip How can a woman decline a dance and make sure the man understands that it is not him, it is the particular circumstance? Why can't you talk to the man you want to dance with? It sounds as if you are

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Jack Dylan
From: robin tara robinct...@gmail.com Dear Jack, There are so many unexplainable reasons why a woman might refuse a dance that it is unfair to blackball a woman because she won't dance with you at that particular moment. Robin, I did say ... without a good reason and Ilene gave a

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Dubravko Kakarigi
I suppose the use of good old cabeceo has its advantages, no? === seek, appreciate, and create beauty this life is not a rehearsal === ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?/Cabeceo

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Littler
Yes, that would be great! But pretty much no one uses it in America. I've never seen it taught in any Tango classes here. When I try it, I pretty much never get a glance back. The women don't even look for it and entertain themselves chatting while they wait for someone to come interrupt and

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Littler
Mario wrote: One hears a lot about how the guy has to 'take care of' the woman, provide safe space, listen to her, etc. etc what about the care and feeding of the lead The leader ultimately doesn't need it. He just leads. And is gracious about it. Is it any wonder why there are so

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Endzone 102endzone...@gmail.com wrote: No, not really.  How is being rejected from across a room any better than being rejected to my face? Because only she knows that you looked into her eyes and she turned her head away in rejection, instead of the whole

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Ilene Marder
well said Huck! Huck Kennedy wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Endzone 102endzone...@gmail.com wrote: No, not really. How is being rejected from across a room any better than being rejected to my face? Because only she knows that you looked into her eyes and she turned her

Re: [Tango-L] Is it Balls, or just a Heel?

2009-06-05 Thread Jack Dylan
From: Huck Kennedy tempeh...@gmail.com       Because only she knows that you looked into her eyes and she turned her head away in rejection, instead of the whole room watching you marchy marchy clomp clomp clomp over to her table, ask her to dance, and watch as she turns you down, and you