Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread JOHN WROBLEWSKI
--- On Thu, 4/7/11, JOHN WROBLEWSKI nrj.spar...@prodigy.net wrote: From: JOHN WROBLEWSKI nrj.spar...@prodigy.net Subject: Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap To: Tango-L Tango-L@mit.edu, Vince Bagusauskas vy...@hotmail.com Date: Thursday, April 7, 2011, 9:24 AM Vince; I agree with you. This ad

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
--- On Thu, 4/7/11, JOHN WROBLEWSKI nrj.spar...@prodigy.net wrote: Vince; I agree with you. This ad is not tango. By the very definition a tango is a tango because of the tango music. The question is can there exist a tango dance without tango music and the answer is no. And if a tango

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread Anton Stanley
music be called tango. Anton -Original Message- From: tango-l-boun...@mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-boun...@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Trini y Sean (PATangoS) Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2011 1:06 PM To: Tango-L Subject: Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap --- On Thu, 4/7/11, JOHN WROBLEWSKI nrj.spar

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread Sharon Pedersen
I disagree. I'm with Trini on the separability of names for the music and the movement. If you turned the sound off on the video and watched it, would it look like tango? Well, then, to me, it's tango. Of course, if it doesn't look like tango to you with the sound off, then don't call it

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread Sharon Pedersen
Drat. I apologize to the list for sending that in HTML formatting. And now I see I'm going to have triggered the dread no-wrap on the list archive. ugh. __Sharon On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Sharon Pedersen sharon.peder...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree.  I'm with Trini on the separability

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
I can accept the hypothesis that you can dance any type of step to tango music and legitimately call it tango, but I can't accept that dancing the same steps to any other music, can be called tango. Are you referring an any individual step or a series of steps? I would tend to agree

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread Anton Stanley
Personally I can't imagine the concept below helping to achieve a meaningful definition of tango. Could a ballet, say Swann Lake, featuring so called 'tango steps, be a subset of tango. If it can satisfy as a tango subset, so can any other possible combination of music and steps. Even further,

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread Anton Stanley
At the risk covering ancient ground, what is it about a dance that makes it look like tango? Anton -Original Message- From: tango-l-boun...@mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-boun...@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Sharon Pedersen Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2011 2:19 PM To: Tango-L Subject: Re: [Tango-L

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread Anton Stanley
new is better, and a little ashamedly, I have to admit I was one. Anton -Original Message- From: tango-l-boun...@mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-boun...@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Trini y Sean (PATangoS) Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2011 3:09 PM To: Tango-L Subject: Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap --- On Tue

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread joanneprochaska
Trini wrote: Where is the obliteration? Ref: Obliteration: Some points to ponder... Alberto Dassieu, who has danced tango for 60 years, was so happy to see so many young people at his class at Oberlin College last Friday. He said that in BA, the ave. age of women who start tango is 35, and

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-12 Thread HBBOOGIE1
...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap To: Tango-L tango-l@mit.edu Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 1:19 PM I disagree. I'm with Trini on the separability of names for the music and the movement. If you turned the sound off on the video and watched it, would it look like tango

[Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-04 Thread David
Sometimes people reap what they sow. If someone is rude, then they should expect something rude back at them. If the internet tough guy hadn't sent out the rude, profane, grade school email, then it wouldn't have been exposed for everyone else to see. What he could have done, is say

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-04 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:54 AM, David dches...@charter.net wrote: Trini wrote: Firstly, it's extremely rude to publish a post that is intended as a personal reply.? Such an act says just as much about the poster than the replier. Sometimes people reap what they sow.  If someone is rude,

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-04 Thread Tango-L and Tango-A Administrator
I would suggest that those who have contributed to this thread, or would like to do so, read the following. damian.thompson@... allegedly wrote: Hey fuckhead ... followed by a mix of opinions and personal attacks. Actually, this was a personal email sent to Vince Bagušauskas, apparently in

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-04 Thread Vince Bagusauskas
In Melbourne (Sleepy, after the several unlisted phone calls in a row overnight. So sorry if the above is not making much sense.) -Original Message- From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:22 AM To: Tango-L Subject: Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap Firstly, it's extremely rude

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-03 Thread Sergey Kazachenko
At least here in Boston most nuevo dancers are more experienced than regular ones, they use the space efficiently - large moves when there is no danger to others, small confined moves when there is not enough room. I saw Damian dance when he was here. It was a very small-space milonga (the space

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-03 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Firstly, it's extremely rude to publish a post that is intended as a personal reply.  Such an act says just as much about the poster than the replier. Secondly, I thought the ad was pretty cool for the audience I presume they were trying to reach, which are not old farts.  I liked that they

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-03 Thread Charles Roques
Trini wrote: Secondly, I thought the ad was pretty cool for the audience I presume they were trying to reach, which are not old farts. Dancing traditional or nuevo (or well) has little to do with age. I liked that they were telling a story and an emotional connection was there. That

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-03 Thread HBBOOGIE1
Most of the self-proclaimed tango gods nuevo or otherwise are good at only one thing and that’s disrupting the floor for the people who are dancing social tango. They should all be required to put on tee shirts that say, “I’ m a idiot” In a message dated 4/3/2011 6:56:36 A.M. Pacific

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-03 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
From: Charles Roques c.roq...@mchsi.com Dancing traditional or nuevo (or well) has little to do with age. Exactly, which is why I used the term old farts, which implies a certain mindset. Nor was nothing wrong with their form or technique. It was well-executed show tango. Trini de

Re: [Tango-L] tango to rap

2011-04-03 Thread David Burnett
Well put Trini.. On first reading Vince's post, I just thought it a fly-cast by a troll. I thought Damiens reply hilarious - although perhaps fuckhead is a tad extreme - I would have said bombastic troll or ignorant pedant myself. Those who can dance do, those who can't write meaningless crtiques

[Tango-L] Tango to Rap

2011-03-30 Thread Vince Bagusauskas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6njVFEq2A It is rubbish, but some people like it from reading the comments on Youtube. Vince In Melbourne ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] Tango to Rap

2011-03-30 Thread HBBOOGIE1
Watch the making of the video it's pretty cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N9WhnABBxA In a message dated 3/30/2011 4:40:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, vy...@hotmail.com writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6njVFEq2A ___ Tango-L mailing

Re: [Tango-L] Tango to Rap

2011-03-30 Thread Vince Bagusauskas
Well the male tango dancer does state his name (Gaspar Godoy) which then leads us to many of his show tango videos on Youtube. -Original Message- From: hbboog...@aol.com Watch the making of the video it's pretty cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N9WhnABBxA

Re: [Tango-L] Tango to Rap

2011-03-30 Thread Steve Littler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttpMxOq4x2U and Manuela Rossi. On 3/30/11 4:18 PM, Vince Bagusauskas wrote: Well the male tango dancer does state his name (Gaspar Godoy) which then leads us to many of his show tango videos on Youtube. -Original Message- From: hbboog...@aol.com Watch