Re: [Tango-L] Leading with hands

2008-08-01 Thread Astrid
I agree. Hands maybe helpful for executing very complicated figures in open embrace but in salon, they quickly throw you out of your tango trance. Deby Novitz wrote: The embrace is just that...an embrace. With good posture the force of the torso moves the body smoothly and naturally

Re: [Tango-L] Leading with hands

2008-08-01 Thread Tango For Her
With hands it cannot be smooth. AND with a bad lead I feel like I am being worked like a slot machine. Horrbyy. I think a follower's input will far out-weigh a leader's input on THIS subject! I wouldn't want my follower to feel horrbyy about MY lead!

Re: [Tango-L] Leading with hands

2008-08-01 Thread David Thorn
FWIW, my belief is that the physical aspect of the lead comes through the physical connection. Thus, in close embrace, since the physical connection is via the torso, hands and arms are not needed and perhaps not desirable. In open embrace, the physical connection is via the hands and

Re: [Tango-L] Leading with hands

2008-08-01 Thread NANCY
I'm with Deby. Most leads who use hands either over-lead or under-lead. All the twisting and pushing of my hand does not make my feet move. But the worst of all is when their body says one thing and their hands say another. I have learned to just stop until they figure out where they want me

Re: [Tango-L] Leading with hands

2008-08-01 Thread Astrid
NANCY wrote: But the worst of all is when their body says one thing and their hands say another. I have learned to just stop until they figure out where they want me to be. yes, me too. Sometimes it surprises them, but they seem to understand and it gives them a chance to learn. If

Re: [Tango-L] Leading with hands

2008-08-01 Thread Astrid
NANCY wrote: But the worst of all is when their body says one thing and their hands say another. I have learned to just stop until they figure out where they want me to be. yes, me too. Sometimes it surprises them, but they seem to understand and it gives them a chance to learn. If

Re: [Tango-L] Leading with hands

2008-08-01 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Pittsburgh --- On Fri, 8/1/08, David Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Leading with hands To: tango-l tango-l@mit.edu Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:41 PM FWIW, my belief is that the physical aspect of the lead comes through the physical