I also dislike this 30 seconds of chit-chat on the dance floor. Just what is its
purpose? Someone told me it was so that the dancers could hear the music
before starting to dance but, IMO, that just doesn't ring true.. Firstly,
they're
chatting, not listening and, secondly, the 5 seconds to
: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 22:43:13 -0700 (PDT)
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Labor Day Festival: a complaint
I also dislike this 30 seconds of chit-chat on the dance floor. Just what
is its
purpose? Someone told me it was so that the dancers could hear the music
before starting to dance
I'm not going to mince words here. There is something happening at festivals
and maybe at milongas that is not pretty. Too many women are being way too
aggressive in asking, no! in demanding dances from leaders. Even from leaders
they do not know. The men are complaining. They are trying
I remember when I lived and danced in Los Angeles, one Argentine man there
told me he used to hide out in the bathroom to get away from the aggressive
women. And this was years and years ago.
I can only imagine how much worse it is today.
One woman friend from L.A. who I saw down here was being
Thanks, Nancy,
I'm glad someone has the nerve to speak up. This has been going on for
as many years as I have been dancing tango. It's worse in some places
than others. I've even seen it happen in classes where women are asked
to rotate. They don't seem to notice that some women have been
Hi Cherie,
Here's another story, I was standing in the milonga at a festival and
one of the top professional dancers was giving me a neck massage. I
had just had a conversation with a woman about how aggressive the
women dancers were. How they would interrupt a conversation to drag a
man away to
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Cherie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I remember when I lived and danced in Los Angeles, one Argentine man there
told me he used to hide out in the bathroom to get away from the aggressive
women. And this was years and years ago.
I can only imagine how much worse it
Of course the unmentioned but related problem is gender balance.
Obviously, the women don't like sitting, and the men don't like being
on the spot. Even if they aren't being pursued, they feel guilty. Both
are negative feelings.
In general, women are more likely to take privates and spend
As bad as it all is, the only way to prevent it from happening is to not
accept such rude invitations. But then you are blacklisted. The
One can argue that being blacklisted by these women/men would be a
blessing ...
I actually don't mind women asking, as long as they understand that asking
On Sep 2, 2008, at 11:57 AM, robin tara wrote:
Thanks, Nancy,
By the way, does anyone know why there weren't any shoe vendors in
Albuquerque?
Robin Tara
http://www.22tangoshoes.com
Robin, you know this isn't true. In fact there were shoes and clothes
for sale. Not to mention, yoga in
Hello, everyone,
Gender imbalance and other explanations do not justify bad behavior.
What Nancy had described *is* bad behavior. It shows poor boundaries,
impulsivity and agression - all in service of getting what people
want. This is the stuff that people carry with themselves in their
Tom,
Sorry, but I heard there weren't any vendors. And later I heard that
CarrieWhipple had a few shoes. Of course I knew that Anne Leva was
there with her
clothes, as always
You may not emphasize vendors, and that's fine. Your festivals are
wonderful experiences and people have a great time
Robin Tara wrote:
By the way, does anyone know why there weren't any shoe vendors in
Albuquerque?
Wait - You mean the $150 shoes that my GF bought at the festival in Albuquerque
were mythical?? Maybe the cash I gave her (glad they didn't take MC -
the damage would certainly have been worse)
Hi Nancy,
We have been in Buenos Aires (where it is not acceptable for women to
request a dance) since late May, and we have just returned from
spending 10 days in Uruguay, where we did a bit of dancing in
Montevideo, The tango scene there is definitely more relaxed, with
none of the pomp and
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