Hi MAU!
Q: And where is the Drafts folder, doesn't TB have a Drafts folder?
I don't have time to read all messages about the Draft folder. I don't
understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work for you?
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Cheers!
Stefan
Hi 9Val,
Thursday, December 15, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
The only change is problem with filters.
Which one precisely? The broken filtering or the hanging after
refiltering? You came up so quick with a new beta that I suppose there
wasn't much to be done, hence my question.
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 3:08:04 PM, Vili wrote:
MAU: you are just playing with the words... Parked messages in
Outbox means: edit later; Non-parked means: can be sent...
Is it that hard to remember
I can't tell if you are just being hard headed, aren't listening or
are just
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 3:12:53 PM, Vili wrote:
Hello Dwight,
If you can articulate a reason why you need an Hungarian folder, and
what it needs to do which you can't do with the present configuration
and how it would make TB! a better program I would support your
advocacy of it.
Hello Charlene,
CF Which one precisely? The broken filtering or the hanging after
CF refiltering?
Yes, that one.
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9Val
Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA'
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 4:22:43 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
I don't understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work for
you?
Can I open a message in a virtual folder and edit it? Will it's being
in a virtual folder keep it out of the outbox where it is at risk of
getting sent,
Hi Vili,
Wednesday, December 14, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing???
Why would anyone put a rocket on a launch pad if not for firing it up?
I hate the idea of having clones of already sent mails in my outbox,
Hi Vili,
Wednesday, December 14, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing
stuff
I don't think he does. He possibly just can't tell the difference,
because there is no visible difference since all is already mixed up in
Hi 9Val,
Thursday, December 15, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
CF Which one precisely? The broken filtering or the hanging after
CF refiltering?
Yes, that one.
:rofl: you mean the latter.
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kind regards
Charlene Ferrara
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta)
Hello Charlene,
CF :rofl: you mean the latter.
The same bug with different symptoms :)
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9Val
Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
miércoles, 14 dic 2005 at 21:51, it seems you wrote:
The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
On the web I only see 3.63.12.
The changelog was for the 3.63.11 or for .12?
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/\/ Using The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) Professional
/
miércoles, 14 dic 2005 at 23:16, it seems you wrote:
In the last version, I reported that the cursor was ending up in the
TO: pane, not after the quote as it should per my template and earlier
behavior.
Confirmed.
I have now observed further that when a reply is created, in the
current
Hello 9Val,
Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 5:03:43 PM, you wrote:
9 The only change is problem with filters.
Couldn't get 3.63.11 to load without a series of cascading AVs. This
loads just fine.
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Best regards,
Richard Newman
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Has this been changed in the betas? This does not happen in v3.62.14.
Anyone confirm this?
Upon addressing a new message, I can now *only* open the AB via the
icon across from the field.
The popup AB window does not appear now when I click any addressing
fields (TO;, BCC:, CC:)
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steverio
Hello NetVicious,
A reminder of what NetVicious typed on:
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 23:51:34 GMT +0100
N miércoles, 14 dic 2005 at 21:51, it seems you wrote:
The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
N On the web I only see 3.63.12.
N The
jueves, 15 dic 2005 at 00:14, it seems you wrote:
3.63.11 was immediately replaced with 3.63.12 to address a filtering
problem introduced in 3.63.11.
Thanks, I read it minutes later.
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/\/ Using The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) Professional
/ \ / \ /
Hello Charlene,
Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing???
Why would anyone put a rocket on a launch pad if not for firing it up?
It has nothing to do with the emails...
I hate the idea of having clones of already sent mails in my outbox,
confusing me and the
Hello tbbeta,
As can be seen in the screenshot the count in my IMAP folders still
does not make any sense at all in this latest beta that promised IMAP
as the main thing to be fixed.
I actually have 57 messages in the trash and yet it reports 12. I seem
to have no unread messages in The Bat
Hello Dwight,
In the last version, I reported that the cursor was ending up in the
TO: pane, not after the quote as it should per my template and earlier
behavior.
I have now observed further that when a reply is created, in the
current beta, that for an instant when the reply is drawn, it
Hello Dwight,
MAU: you are just playing with the words... Parked messages in
Outbox means: edit later; Non-parked means: can be sent...
Is it that hard to remember
I can't tell if you are just being hard headed, aren't listening or
are just enjoying the arguing.
I dont see the point of
Hello Dwight,
If you can articulate a reason why you need an Hungarian folder, and
what it needs to do which you can't do with the present configuration
and how it would make TB! a better program I would support your
advocacy of it.
What is that you cannot do NOW without the Drafts folder?
Hello tbbeta,
I again tried using remove duplicates to fix my duplicate problem
and I ended up losing mail. I reported this earlier and it is still a
problem.
--
Best regards,
Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta)
On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600
Stuart...
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:36:24 -0600, you wrote:
Hello tbbeta,
As can be seen in the screenshot the count in my IMAP folders still
does not make any sense at all in this latest beta that promised IMAP
as the main thing to be fixed.
I actually have 57 messages in the trash and yet it
Hello steverio,
A reminder of what steverio typed on:
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 16:16:24 GMT -0800
s FWIW...
s I don't know if you have had these message count issues with the
s latest non-beta...I don't. But I have only a few messages. You have
s many.
Yes, I can't remember when they
jueves, 15 dic 2005 at 00:36, it seems you wrote:
Do you use the %CURSOR macro?
I have the same problem and yes, I use the %CURSOR macro.
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/\/ Using The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) Professional
/ \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2)
/\/ e t
Hello Vili,
MAU, I am ready to support it in the moment when you show me a USEFUL
feature of the Draft folder. All I see is only eye-candy kind of
features of the Draft folder...
Forget it. If you haven't understood yet the reasons for the proposal,
you never will.
--
Best regards,
Please
Hello Vili,
MAU: you are just playing with the words... Parked messages in Outbox
means: edit later; Non-parked means: can be sent...
Is it that hard to remember
As I have said in another message, you haven't understood a bit about
what all of this is about.
Forget it.
--
Best
Hello Vili,
MAU: show me ANY reference in TB! for such a group as Keep...
Forget it, you'll never understand what this is all about.
--
Best regards,
Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The
Hello tbbeta,
Can anyone explain why I am seeing this? (see screenshot)
I tested remove duplicates again on The Bat folder and it dropped the
number of messages in half and then it started to queue up all these
requests.
Are color groups not just a local thing, as I don't think they are
Hello Stuart,
Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:30:56 PM, you wrote:
SC Hello tbbeta,
SC Can anyone explain why I am seeing this? (see screenshot)
SC I tested remove duplicates again on The Bat folder and it dropped the
SC number of messages in half and then it started to queue up all these
SC
Hi Dwight!
Can I open a message in a virtual folder and edit it?
Yes.
Will it's being in a virtual folder keep it out of the outbox where it is at
risk of
getting sent,
Yes. As long as the Draft flag is used, messages cannot be sent.
where Mary's signatures get messed up, etc.
I has
Hello MAU,
MAU: show me ANY reference in TB! for such a group as Keep...
Forget it, you'll never understand what this is all about.
No, I wont, you are right. You, and noone here in the list showed me
any _usefulness_ of the Drafts folder. You use magic words like Keep
messages, but when
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:32:53 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
Yes. As long as the Draft flag is used, messages cannot be sent.
If no one at ritlabs is willing to read any of the discussion about
this subject, then we are just pi$$ing into the wind asking for
consideration of any change.
Stuart...
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:22:59 -0600, you wrote:
Hello steverio,
A reminder of what steverio typed on:
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 16:16:24 GMT -0800
s FWIW...
s I don't know if you have had these message count issues with the
s latest non-beta...I don't. But I have only a few
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 5:44:51 PM, Vili wrote:
Drafts has hourglass icon, finished letters dont have.
if they are parked, what do they have?
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Dwight A. Corrin
928 S Broadway
Wichita KS 67211
316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568
dcorrin at fastmail.fm
Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.12
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 5:36:17 PM, Vili wrote:
I have now observed further that when a reply is created, in the
current beta, that for an instant when the reply is drawn, it
appears where it should, then ends up in the TO: pane instead.
Do you use the %CURSOR macro?
Hi Dwight!
If no one at ritlabs is willing to read any of the discussion about
this subject, then we are just pi$$ing into the wind asking for
consideration of any change.
Could you please be more concrete? I've read all messages in the
About TB folders thread and I could not find anything
Hi Dwight!
if they are parked, what do they have?
Parking and draft are synonyms in Outbox. It's the same flag.
--
Cheers!
Stefan
Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
Hello Stefan!
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:32 PM, you wrote:
where Mary's signatures get messed up, etc.
I has nothing to do with physical Outbox/Drafts separation - the
problem is that PGP-specific flags are not stored in draft messages,
i.e. it's just missing functionality.
I made
Hi Mary!
where Mary's signatures get messed up, etc.
I has nothing to do with physical Outbox/Drafts separation - the
problem is that PGP-specific flags are not stored in draft messages,
i.e. it's just missing functionality.
I made a BT issue report about this, and Roelof posted to me
Hello Stefan!
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:55 PM, you wrote:
... I've read all messages in the About TB folders thread and I
could not find anything against virtual folder. Perhaps, I'm missing
something?
If I've understood Miguel A. Urech correctly, his chief reason for
proposing
Hello Stefan!
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 7:10 PM, you wrote:
where Mary's signatures get messed up, etc.
I has nothing to do with physical Outbox/Drafts separation - the
problem is that PGP-specific flags are not stored in draft
messages, i.e. it's just missing functionality.
I
Hello Stefan,
Q: And where is the Drafts folder, doesn't TB have a Drafts folder?
I don't have time to read all messages about the Draft folder. I don't
understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work for you?
Yes, I can understand you don't have time when you have to release 2
betas
Hello Hendrik,
The 'tiny' problem shows up when I open a PDF attachment in TB, they
always open with Acrobat 4.0. No real problem, I can view PDFs, but I
just don't understand why this is happening.
I have almost the same problem here using Acrobat 6 and Reader 7
Thanks, it is always nice
Howdy Ben,
Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:06:25 PM, Ben wrotened:
BA Howdy MAU,
BA Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 7:39:43 PM, MAU wrotened:
Ok. I hope this isnt just me. Or there is another explanation other
than my own stupidity. In .09 my keyboard shortcuts do not work. Not
one of
Hello Charlene,
I'll do for the second round if we don't win the first one ;-)
To my opinion they must react, ...
They won't, I give up. They are stubborn, blind and don't have the time
to read our reasons. So, why waste our time and bother?
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial -
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:55:04 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
Hi Dwight!
If no one at ritlabs is willing to read any of the discussion about
this subject, then we are just pi$$ing into the wind asking for
consideration of any change.
Could you please be more concrete? I've read all
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:59:40 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
if they are parked, what do they have?
Parking and draft are synonyms in Outbox. It's the same flag.
I understand that, but I was hoping that Vili would finally have to
admit that it was so and that he understood that as
Hello MAU!
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 7:45 PM, you wrote:
I'll do for the second round if we don't win the first one ;-)
To my opinion they must react, ...
They won't, I give up. They are stubborn, blind and don't have the
time to read our reasons. So, why waste our time and bother?
Hello Mary,
They won't, I give up. They are stubborn, blind and don't have the
time to read our reasons. So, why waste our time and bother?
I posted to Stefan that your purpose (as I understood it) in proposing
a Draft folder, at this time, was that it was a more elegant, simpler,
and
Hello MAU!
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 8:06 PM, you wrote:
They won't, I give up. They are stubborn, blind and don't have the
time to read our reasons. So, why waste our time and bother?
I posted to Stefan that your purpose (as I understood it) in
proposing a Draft folder, at this
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 8:18:59 PM, Mary Bull wrote:
Or--a cup of the :batcoffee: I'm sending your way across the
Atlantic, to be waiting for you when you get up in the morning.
:thumbup:
there is a pastry I often ate for breakfast when I was in Spain, and I
think you or I should
Hello Dwight!
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 8:33 PM, you wrote:
Or--a cup of the :batcoffee: I'm sending your way across the
Atlantic, to be waiting for you when you get up in the morning.
:thumbup:
there is a pastry I often ate for breakfast when I was in Spain, and
I think you or I
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 8:59:49 PM, Mary Bull wrote:
You could send one, also Dwight. Never hurts to have two of anything
that good! :)
I'm sending a bottle of Tio Pepe, for later in the day. Opening a new
bottle of Fino around mid-afternoon sounds pretty good to me.
--
Dwight A.
Hello Dwight!
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:15 PM, you wrote:
You could send one, also Dwight. Never hurts to have two of
anything that good! :)
I'm sending a bottle of Tio Pepe, for later in the day. Opening a
new bottle of Fino around mid-afternoon sounds pretty good to me.
Oh,
Hello TB Beta List,
However, clicking on the address book icon (to the right of
the field) interprets the handle.
--
Best regards,
Bill
TB! Pro :beta: 3.63.12 (Beta) BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3
Current beta is
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, at 22:06:42 [GMT +] (which was 23:06 where I
live) Sean Rima wrote:
The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36312.rar
The only change is problem with filters.
What about the problems with SMIME?
Confirmed
Need some assistance with an IMAP issue.
I recently had to change my mail provider. My local TB client had the
IMAP folder structure of my original provider. My new mail provider of
course did not. I went to manage IMAP folders and mistakenly hit the
reset option. It of course reset my folder
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 4:06:42 PM, Sean Rima wrote:
What about the problems with SMIME?
Of the NEWLY introduced bugs, looks to me like the most important are
to fix the templates, fix the headers and fix the folder tree
problems.
I keep looking at new change logs, anticipating the
Hello Henk,
Thursday, December 15, 2005, 5:41:34 AM, you wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, at 22:06:42 [GMT +] (which was 23:06 where I
live) Sean Rima wrote:
The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36312.rar
The only change is problem
Hello Dwight,
Thursday, December 15, 2005, 5:50:07 AM, you wrote:
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 4:06:42 PM, Sean Rima wrote:
What about the problems with SMIME?
Of the NEWLY introduced bugs, looks to me like the most important are
to fix the templates, fix the headers and fix the folder
Mary,
MB My motto in using the various features of TB! is KISS. (Keep it
MB simple, stupid.)
MB I would like to see The Bat! as elegant and as transparent in its
MB User Interface and as simple and intuitive as possible.
MB Maybe we'll get through to the decision-makers on at least *some*
MB
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, at 06:01:09 [GMT +] (which was 7:01 where I
live) Sean Rima wrote:
I use SMIME every day and the problem is also with outgoing messages,
therefore rendering SMIME unuseable
Yep, if I can't use s/mime I can't use this version! A pity because I
have my view modes/folder
Hello Henk,
Thursday, December 15, 2005, 6:12:23 AM, you wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, at 06:01:09 [GMT +] (which was 7:01 where I
live) Sean Rima wrote:
I use SMIME every day and the problem is also with outgoing messages,
therefore rendering SMIME unuseable
Yep, if I can't use s/mime
Hello 9Val,
Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 10:51:49 PM, you wrote:
[-] (#0005396) Move up, Move down, Move in, Move out are not
working correctly when moving folders across accounts
*NOT* fixed. I'm using OTFP and this functionality still is broken. If I move
a folder to a
Hi 9Val,
on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 21:51 you wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
among others:
Hello All,
The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
But it is named 3.63.12 !
--
Best regards,
Roland
pgp7MZ0D59nqc.pgp
Hello beta testers.
1) Filtering is slow
2) Get many duplicates. My guess is that auto purge/compress is messed
up. Filtering leaves behind filtered messages.
3) Folder counts are wrong: bolded when there is no unread mail and so
on, bold 0 counts.
Non-IMAP
4) Address book
Hi Vili,
Thursday, December 15, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
I hate the idea of having clones of already sent mails in my outbox,
confusing me and the recipients with duplicates.
Then why do you copy the copies to the Outboy again?
I don't, but the new feature does, as
Matt,
On 15-12-2005 06:45, you [MT] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MT How would I go about getting this mail back? I don't necessarily
MT care about the folder structure at this point, I just want the
MT emails that were in those folders.
Back them up before opening TB.
Make some
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