Re: Threading

2003-07-26 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, Don't apologize for me being dumb. snipped ... I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing! Just a coincidence or did you force the cookie? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i

Mass Exporting Messages

2003-07-26 Thread Michael Thompson
Hello tbudl, Is there a way of doing a mass export of messages to MSG format, only from certain folders? Or is it just a case of doing a TOOLS ---EXPORT MESSAGES for each folder? -- Best regards, Michael ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There is something to be said about me: Wow!!

Re: Euro character

2003-07-26 Thread MAU
Hello Deborah, AltGr is a button which is found on European keyboards where you'd find one of the Alt buttons on North American keyboards. It acts as a second Alt button, allowing you to have a whole extra set of keyboard shortcuts. Actually it basically does the same that Alt+Ctrl keys hit

Re: A wish...

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Deborah, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:44:11 -0400 GMT (25/07/03, 23:44 +0700 GMT), Deborah W wrote: TF Oh then, how would TB know which accounts you want to check now, and TF which accounts you want to check next time? Because I would highlight the first account I want to check, then use

Re: SMTP authentication difficulty in The Bat

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hi Alexander, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:22:11 +0200 Alexander wrote: (You may remember that I could not achieve the necessary SMTP authentication while _sending mail_ from The Bat through ChoiceMail.) Just one question - the test mail you were sending with Netscape, did you send it through

Re: help selecting multiple recipients

2003-07-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Steve- Friday, July 25, 2003, 9:32:21 AM, you wrote: I wonder if they've changed the order of fields in the beta? I just checked and the tab order seems to be more or less the same in 1.63 beta 7 and 1.53t. The major difference at first glance is that the initial tab placement is different -

transplanting BAT

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello BAT members, I just got a new computer with Win2000. My current one runs on Win98. I read here some time ago how to move/copy BAT over to a new computer with a different operating system. I will use BAT backup procedure, but my registers, drive letters will be different. Is there an

Re: Threading

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:47:59 +0200 GMT (25/07/03, 23:47 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Now, I don't know whether you snipped too much,... When threading by reference, which TB does beautifully and specially in this list where everybody uses TB, quoting shouldn't be necessary at all. I am

Quoted text

2003-07-26 Thread Steve Mary King
When I reply to a message in ver. 1.62r, the quoted text does not show. However, when I highlight the area where the quoted text would (should) be, it shows properly in highlighted inverse video. Is this a bug? I can't find the option setting where I specify the (unhighted) color of quoted text.

Re[3]: A wish...

2003-07-26 Thread Vishal
Friday, July 25, 2003, 12:44:11 PM, you wrote: DW Because I would highlight the first account I want to check, then use DW ctrl-click to highlight the other accounts I want to check, then press DW F2 to check the highlighted accounts :-) Excellent suggestion. This is something I would like to

Re: Threading

2003-07-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU, Friday, July 25, 2003, MAU MAU wrote: Thank you! I thought you already knew about it. No. I don't read every thread in TB lists, so this is the first I've seen the link. I've added it to my Ritlabs favorites, so don't go erasing the page. Maybe I should save the page locally.

Can I copy views?

2003-07-26 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hi list, I have my TBUDL folder customized exactly the way I want it meaning the order of columns, column width, etc... Can I somehow copy this view to my other mailing list folders? I have folders set up to not use the parent view as I don't want my inbox customized in the same way. Any help

Thebat! only used by spammers?

2003-07-26 Thread Doug Weller
I was wondering why my email to my brother kept being rejected. I thought it was rejecting my ISP, but when I switched to a POP3 mailbox hosted independently of any ISP it was still rejected. My host asked why, and was told: That message (or messages from that sender to that recipient) was the

Re: SMTP authentication difficulty in The Bat

2003-07-26 Thread Alexander
25-Jul-2003 19:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To sum it up: it's a stupid server and I wouldn't really care as at least AUTH=LOGIN works. Thanks for the explanation. Well, with the dozens of ways to authenticate these days, who'd mind a poor little server get confused? :-) -- Best regards,

Re: Quoted text

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Steve, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:15:38 -0700 GMT (26/07/03, 07:15 +0700 GMT), Steve Mary King wrote: When I reply to a message in ver. 1.62r, the quoted text does not show. However, when I highlight the area where the quoted text would (should) be, it shows properly in highlighted inverse

Re: help selecting multiple recipients

2003-07-26 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi Steve, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 25 Jul 2003 10:11:16 (my local time 16:11:16), you typed: MW Pressing Tab once gets me to the right box. The pressing space when MW I've selected the proper addressee adds that person to the recipient MW box on the right. Not sure why the

Re: Thebat! only used by spammers?

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Doug, On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 06:26:04 +0100 GMT (26/07/03, 12:26 +0700 GMT), Doug Weller wrote: That message (or messages from that sender to that recipient) was the first non-spam use of an X-Mailer of The Bat! in an extremely long time. (I went back several months in the logs.) This has

Re: transplanting BAT

2003-07-26 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, Another question, although it maybe should be in BOT, but it is simple: Can I use Partition Magic on Win2000. My current PM version is V:4.0 from 1998. I believe for Win2k you need at least PM 5.0 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i

Re: Thebat! only used by spammers?

2003-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug, @26-Jul-2003, 06:26 Doug Weller [DW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It's a real client, but it seems like nobody other than spammers use (or forge) it. Please refer this individual to http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html and, of

Re: Thebat! only used by spammers?

2003-07-26 Thread Deborah W
On Saturday, July 26, 2003, 1:26:04 AM, Doug Weller wrote: DW I was wondering why my email to my brother kept being rejected. I DW thought it was rejecting my ISP, but when I switched to a POP3 DW mailbox hosted independently of any ISP it was still rejected. My DW host asked why, and was told:

Re: transplanting BAT

2003-07-26 Thread Deborah W
On Friday, July 25, 2003, 2:39:15 PM, Peter Kerekes wrote: PK I just got a new computer with Win2000. My current one runs on PK Win98. PK I read here some time ago how to move/copy BAT over to a new PK computer with a different operating system. I will use BAT backup PK procedure, but my

Re: transplanting BAT

2003-07-26 Thread Deborah W
On Friday, July 25, 2003, 2:39:15 PM, Peter Kerekes wrote: PK I just got a new computer with Win2000. My current one runs on PK Win98. PK I read here some time ago how to move/copy BAT over to a new PK computer with a different operating system. I will use BAT backup PK procedure, but my

Re: Threading

2003-07-26 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, I have seen postings that just contained one word: No. That is only because the sender doesn't use fancy macro-composed greetings, fancy signatures with random cookies and PGP ;-) So it's not a cure after all? g No. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re: transplanting BAT

2003-07-26 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello MAU, Saturday, July 26, 2003, 12:55:19 PM, you wrote: Another question, although it maybe should be in BOT, but it is simple: Can I use Partition Magic on Win2000. My current PM version is V:4.0 from 1998. M I believe for Win2k you need at

Re: help selecting multiple recipients

2003-07-26 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi Steve, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 24 Jul 2003 22:25:17 (my local time 25 jul 2003 04:25:17), you typed: SMS BTW, I still can't figure out which button is which, SMS but I can trial and error it and can then label each button with the SMS screen reader. Have you tried

test message

2003-07-26 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, This is a test message - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPyJzpVfJ62ArBxfiEQIcJQCgxPZDnQCDsLphxjTXMWVfohEoDh8AoKv9 sHxK2E90Hpl/Q1dV7SqoIbtL =c8WQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: Threading

2003-07-26 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, Friday, July 25, 2003, MAU MAU wrote: That reply template... :) No. I don't read every thread in TB lists, What do you mean you don't read every thread !?!? You are supposed to, why do you join the list then? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The

Re: Mass Exporting Messages

2003-07-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Michael, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:39:27 +0100GMT (25-7-03, 19:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MT Is there a way of doing a mass export of messages to MSG format, MT only from certain folders? No. MT Or is it just a case of doing a TOOLS ---EXPORT MESSAGES for each MT folder? Yes,

Re: test message

2003-07-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Allie, On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 07:27:15 -0500GMT (26-7-03, 14:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AM This is a test message AM - -- In that case: Your signature delimiter is broken. g,dr -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using

Re: SMTP authentication difficulty in The Bat

2003-07-26 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Peter, On 19:51 25.07.2003, you [Peter Palmreuther] wrote... As it seems the server does expect end enforce the parameter passing method when AUTH=PLAIN is used. To sum it up: it's a stupid server and I wouldn't really care as at least AUTH=LOGIN works. We notice this on Exim, both 3.x

Re: test message

2003-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roelof, @26-Jul-2003, 14:42 +0200 (13:42 UK time) Roelof Otten [RO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Allie: AM This is a test message AM - -- RO In that case: Your signature delimiter is broken. g,dr Tell it to Phil Zimmerman! - -- Cheers --

Re[2]: transplanting BAT

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Martin, On July 26, 2003, 08:06, you wrote: MW Hello MAU, MW Saturday, July 26, 2003, 12:55:19 PM, you wrote: Another question, although it maybe should be in BOT, but it is simple: Can I use Partition Magic on Win2000. My current PM version is V:4.0 from 1998. M I believe for Win2k

Re[2]: transplanting BAT

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Deborah, On July 26, 2003, 07:59, you wrote: DW On Friday, July 25, 2003, 2:39:15 PM, Peter Kerekes wrote: PK I just got a new computer with Win2000. My current one runs on PK Win98. PK I read here some time ago how to move/copy BAT over to a new PK computer with a different operating

Re: test message

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck, On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:54:50 +0100 GMT (26/07/03, 19:54 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: AM - -- RO In that case: Your signature delimiter is broken. g,dr Tell it to Phil Zimmerman! I have another idea: Let TB recognise - -- as a sig delimiter. AAMOF, I think this worked in

Partition Magic (was: transplanting BAT)

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:00:08 -0400 GMT (26/07/03, 20:00 +0700 GMT), Peter Kerekes wrote: M I believe for Win2k you need at least PM 5.0 MW If you're working with NTFS or thinking of upgrading... MW don't. Current versions of Partition Magic and Drive Image are MW unreliable and

Re: Partition Magic (was: transplanting BAT)

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Thomas, On July 26, 2003, 09:16, you wrote: TF Hello Peter, TF On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:00:08 -0400 GMT (26/07/03, 20:00 +0700 GMT), TF Peter Kerekes wrote: M I believe for Win2k you need at least PM 5.0 MW If you're working with NTFS or thinking of upgrading... MW don't. Current versions

GnuPG Signature Verification in TB! ?

2003-07-26 Thread Rafi Avital
Using TB! 1.62r, Windows 2000 Pro SP2, GnuPG 1.2.2 (for Windows) I have a messagage with a GnuPG signature. The message has the following general format: BEGIN PPG SIGNED MESSAGE message block, NOT encrypted BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE Signature block END PGP SIGNATURE I have the author's public key

Re: test message

2003-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @26-Jul-2003, 20:14 +0700 (14:14 UK time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: RO In that case: Your signature delimiter is broken. g,dr Tell it to Phil Zimmerman! TF I have another idea: Let TB recognise - --

Re: Partition Magic (was: transplanting BAT)

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:06:40 -0400 GMT (26/07/03, 21:06 +0700 GMT), Peter Kerekes wrote: I hope the moderator is satisfied with this method of transfer. Marck appears to be off-line (this guy seems to have a life outside of the internet!), I haven't heard from Leif in a while,

Re: Partition Magic (was: transplanting BAT) OT

2003-07-26 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Thomas, On Saturday, July 26, 2003, at 9:16:35 AM, you wrote re: Partition Magic (was: transplanting BAT): MW If you're working with NTFS or thinking of upgrading... MW don't. Current versions of Partition Magic and Drive Image are MW unreliable and support is next to useless. Wonderful!

Re: Mass Exporting Messages

2003-07-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Roelof, Saturday, July 26, 2003, Roelof Otten wrote: MT Is there a way of doing a mass export of messages to MSG format, MT only from certain folders? No. TMK Correct on direct method, but I've used an indirect method in the past for exporting messages from multiple folders. Create a

Re: Threading

2003-07-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU, Friday, July 25, 2003, MAU MAU wrote: ^^^ ^^^ That reply template... :) Sorry about that. I now have NO reply header. Funny how things evolve. :-) No. I don't read every thread in TB lists, What do you mean you don't read every thread !?!?

Re: Partition Magic (was: transplanting BAT) OT

2003-07-26 Thread CylinderN
I purchased the paragon product yesterday after email there tech support as to the sutability of my application (win2kserver) received an email the next day. Ordered it and used it 1 hour later I had a 76 Gig partition on my server and all my data intact (I had a 2048 meg previously). not bad

Re: Partition Magic (was: transplanting BAT) OT

2003-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Danger, @26-Jul-2003, 11:37 -0400 (16:37 UK time) CylinderN said: I purchased the paragon product yesterday ... snip Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information:

Re: Threading

2003-07-26 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, No. I don't read every thread in TB lists, What do you mean you don't read every thread !?!? Ctrl+Shift+M Ctrl+Shit+OntheM? Now that's not too nice of you ;-) IIRC correctly you do not read all messages. :-) Can't reply because I didn't read your message :-) -- Best

Re: Mass Exporting Messages

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Greg, On Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 5:15:00 PM you [GS] wrote (at least in part): MT Is there a way of doing a mass export of messages to MSG format, MT only from certain folders? No. GS TMK Correct on direct method, but I've used an indirect method in the GS past for exporting messages

Re: Mass Exporting Messages

2003-07-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Peter, Quite more easy should be making use of CLI The Bat! offers: Thanks! Good to know. snipped So: no click and point operation, but a solvable task. Are all command line parameters for TheBat.exe documented in help under Advanced usage topics | Command line parameters? -- Best

Re: SMTP authentication difficulty in The Bat

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Johannes, On Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 2:47:24 PM you [JP] wrote (at least in part): As it seems the server does expect end enforce the parameter passing method when AUTH=PLAIN is used. To sum it up: it's a stupid server and I wouldn't really care as at least AUTH=LOGIN works. JP We

Re: Thebat! only used by spammers?

2003-07-26 Thread ravi
It's a real client, but it seems like nobody other than spammers use (or forge) it. Rather insulting. But that aside, do send them this link: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) If your parents didn't have children, you probably won't either..

Re: Mass Exporting Messages

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Greg, On Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 6:41:50 PM you [GS] wrote (at least in part): GS Are all command line parameters for TheBat.exe documented in help GS under Advanced usage topics | Command line parameters? Don't know, don't have a current English help file here. I'm using the (much

QT woes

2003-07-26 Thread Luc
Good evening list, I just created anther account. At the moment i only need 1 QT (a reply QT). I copied and pasted an existing one and altered that. But it refuses to kick in: if i set it up at account level: nothing if i set it up at folder level: nothing AB is still empty so no

Re: test message

2003-07-26 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: TF I have another idea: Let TB recognise - -- as a sig delimiter. TF AAMOF, I think this worked in an earlier version. It does recognise it, but: - -- and not - -- If you sign with the plugin, you get the

TheBat Help file

2003-07-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Peter, GS Are all command line parameters for TheBat.exe documented in help GS under Advanced usage topics | Command line parameters? Don't know, don't have a current English help file here. I'm using the (much better, btw) German help file, that lists all (at least I haven't missed one

Re[2]: Partition Magic (was: transplanting BAT)

2003-07-26 Thread Rafi Avital
Hello Peter, I'm not an expert but have had some experience with Partition Magic (older version) and it really isn't worth it. Like you I liked to partition my physical drives and for good reasons (keep swap file all by itself, keep O/S, programs and data separate, etc). One possible reason the

Re: Partition Magic

2003-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Rafi, @26-Jul-2003, 13:12 -0500 (19:12 UK time) Rafi Avital [RA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Peter: RA I'm not an expert but have had some experience with Partition RA Magic (older version) and it really isn't worth it. moderator Note: This

Re: TheBat Help file

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Greg, On Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 7:29:59 PM you [GS] wrote (at least in part): GS Are all command line parameters for TheBat.exe documented in help GS under Advanced usage topics | Command line parameters? Don't know, don't have a current English help file here. I'm using the (much

Re: Can I copy views?

2003-07-26 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] Steve, SMS I have my TBUDL folder customized exactly the way I want it SMS meaning the order of columns, column width, etc... Can I somehow SMS copy this view to my other mailing list folders? You can set a folder to

Re: QT woes

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Luc, On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:27:29 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 00:27 +0700 GMT), Luc wrote: if i set it up at account level: nothing if i set it up at folder level: nothing Strange thing is, when i don't set it and just hit F4 and then menu Utilities - insert Quick Template, it works

Re: TheBat Help file

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:16:20 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 02:16 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: GS Anyway my point is not to single your comment out, but to raise an issue GS with regard to the help file. If certain language versions of the help GS file are better than others, than are

Re: QT woes

2003-07-26 Thread Luc
Hello Thomas, It was foretold that on 27-7-2003 @ 07:25:10 GMT+0700 (which was 2:25:10 where I live) Thomas Fernandez would mumble: TF The one you pasted and altered probably has the same handle as the TF other one. Rename it and see whether it works now. Nope, different handles. --

IMAP?

2003-07-26 Thread Andreas Schwartmann
Hello, sorry if this has been asked before: I discovered that my mail provider GMX provides IMAP4 access too. I have configured a new account with setting imap.gmx.de for incoming mail. But ... where's the difference to pop3? The Bat still downloads all my mail, and with the mail dispatcher I

Re: IMAP?

2003-07-26 Thread ravi
I guess the Bat still does not fully support the IMAP protocol. Or did I miss something important? Nope, not yet. Look out for version 2 though. It's supposed to have proper IMAP support. -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate. - Tom Jones.

Re: QT woes

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Luc, On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 02:46:40 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 07:46 +0700 GMT), Luc wrote: TF The one you pasted and altered probably has the same handle as the TF other one. Rename it and see whether it works now. Nope, different handles. How did you invoke the QT in the first place? From

Re: IMAP?

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Andreas, On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 02:43:09 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 07:43 +0700 GMT), Andreas Schwartmann wrote: I discovered that my mail provider GMX provides IMAP4 access too. I have configured a new account with setting imap.gmx.de for incoming mail. But ... where's the difference to pop3?

Re[2]: help selecting multiple recipients

2003-07-26 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi Bill, BM How does one get to the address book picker from the keyboard? I've BM looked around and don't see a way. Press the Enter when you are in the address field and the field is empty. When the field is not empty, press Shift Enter (it's working in

Re: QT woes

2003-07-26 Thread Luc
Good morning Thomas, It was foretold that on 27-7-2003 @ 08:12:25 GMT+0700 (which was 3:12:25 where I live) Thomas Fernandez would mumble: snipped a bit TF How did you invoke the QT in the first place? From within a macro, or TF by crtl-shift? Using the %Qinclude macro. TF I will assume

Re: QT woes

2003-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Luc, On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 05:03:16 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 10:03 +0700 GMT), Luc wrote: TF How did you invoke the QT in the first place? From within a macro, or TF by crtl-shift? Using the %Qinclude macro. Is it in the same account as the template, or is it a sharted QT? I'm starting to

Coloring in the message list

2003-07-26 Thread Rafi Avital
I would like to know if it is possible to color the message title in the message-list pane, conditionally on the presence of a string in the body of the message. My objective: Color the title (in the message-list pane) of any encrypted message. I can enter something like --BEGIN PGP MESSAGE--