Hello malexander
Thank you for your email dated Monday, May 31, 2004, 11:08:05 PM,
in which you wrote:
AVG or Kaspersky.
How about NOD32 (www.nod32.com)?
--
Regards
William
Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat
Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4
Hej Thomas,
Anyone know of a program that downloads the actual weather for a
specific city (in my case Malmö, Sweden) to a simple textfile so I
can use it in my signature.
I use Weather Watcher, a very good little program. It doesn't save the
data in a .txt-file, but I just tried to copy text
Dear Arthur,
@31-May-2004, 21:18 -0400 (01-Jun 02:18 UK time) Arthur Tan [AT] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
MDP No idea - I always use folder views (usually tickerVF) and it's
MDP always been there for me :-/ .
AT Yes, I meant while in View Folder window. The copy-to and move-to
AT buttons
Dear Michael,
@31-May-2004, 18:31 -0700 (01-Jun 02:31 UK time) Michael L. Wilson
[MLW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The:
MLW How does one automatically sign all emails sent to a particular
MLW address and not to others?
By using a custom Address Book template for that address, or group
of
Dear Robin,
@1-Jun-2004, 12:38 +1000 (01-Jun 03:38 UK time) Robin Anson [RA] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Michael:
I tried to sign an email to myself. When verifying it with the bat
and PGP 8.03, I am told that it is a bad signature. Ideas?
RA The signatures on both emails you have
Wayne King, [WK] wrote:
WK In the latter case, it very much annoys me to have to scroll
WK down past the quoted text to read the response.
This annoyance leads one to trim when not top posting, another vital
rule for discussion lists, i.e., no overquoting. :)
--
-=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator
Hi
I'm testing the Bat! and what a great program !
I'm trying to use Bayesit filter... but it doesn't seem to work very
well. I'l tagging as junk every Spam I receive but until now spam are
always incoming to my inbox and not to the junk box.
Can anyone help with the settings of this filter
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***^\
~~( __ _o Was Mon, 31 May 2004, at 21:11:36 -0700,
@ @ when Michael L. Wilson wrote:
Greetings All,
What must I backup to backup everything. I need to know because I
wish to move The Bat to my laptop and stop using it on
On Tue 1 June 2004, 7:24:05 +1000, Cyrille wrote:
I am wondering what is the best way to use it also for Reply and
Forward templates?
Of course, it would be possible create three QT SetLanguage like the one you
described:
%SetLanguage1 calls the templates for New Messages.
%SetLanguage2
Hello Marc,
Monday, May 31, 2004, 9:31:54 PM, you wrote:
AVG carries my vote. Though I use the Professional version on this
machine, I have 2 other machines that use the FreeWare version.
I never had much luck with the free version. It was quite good at
letting me know of virus-infected
Hi,
I am using The Bat! now for some weeks and I have finally decided to
licence it. Its really a great mail client...
But still I have a HTML mail related question:
I want to insert some HTML code in a HTML mail from the clipboard or
from the file system. I tried several ways, but all I can get
Hi all,
I'm currently trying IMAP, so am running an exact copy of my POP mail on
IMAP. Obviously this causes twice as much mail as I'd like :-)
With this taken into account, I've decided that I'm going to create a
few filters. For my POP mail, I'm just going to move all mail to an archive.
But
Chris Weaven wrote:
I'd like to create some filters that run across the IMAP folders and
based on date, move the messages from the server to my local folders
that are in the same structure to that of IMAP.
If you are only using date as criteria, why not use a search then
create a Virtual
Hello Michael,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 6:29:45 AM, you wrote:
Michael I want to insert some HTML code in a HTML mail from the
Michael clipboard or from the file system. I tried several ways, but
Michael all I can get is the HTML source as mail text.
If you're going to paste straight HTML
Allen wrote:
Even if all that is irrelevant, there is some value in a strictly inforced
'my way or the highway' approach--if there were conditions on when top
posting was and was not accepted, it would be near impossible to enforce
any sort of quoting policy--since it would all,
Hi,
I am far away from home.
How can I read my messages on The Bat!
--
Thanks
Best regards
Papy
Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ken Green wrote:
I'd like to create some filters that run across the IMAP folders
and based on date, move the messages from the server to my local
folders that are in the same structure to that of IMAP.
If you are only using date as criteria, why not use a search then
create a Virtual Folder
Wayne King wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In the latter case, it very much annoys me to have to scroll down
past the quoted text to read the response. One especially annoying
example was a message in this list that I just read. I had to scroll
down below quoted text only to find a thank you
Hallo Michael,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:31:52 -0500GMT (1-6-04, 17:31 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
MLC Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? I don't see it, but I'm
MLC bad at finding features I'm not already using, and I'm also using an
Not really, but I suppose you could alter the
Hallo Jean,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:57:53 +0200GMT (1-6-04, 16:57 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
JS I am far away from home.
JS How can I read my messages on The Bat!
With a utility like PCAnywhere, that enables you to have your console
accessible from a remote computer.
Another possibility
Hello Arnaud,
On 1 Jun 2004 at 13:33:06 +0200 GMT [13:33 CEST] you wrote:
AL Hi
AL I'm testing the Bat! and what a great program !
AL I'm trying to use Bayesit filter... but it doesn't seem to work very
AL well. I'l tagging as junk every Spam I receive but until now spam are
AL always incoming
Hello Mary,
On 1 Jun 2004 at 21:32:13 -0500 GMT [04:32 CEST] you wrote:
MB I ran AVG for a few months a couple of years ago. It's good, too. Some
MB folks have been having trouble lately getting updates to download on
MB the free version of it--according to Rootsweb's Virus Discussion List.
Hello Marck,
On 1 Jun 2004 at 10:06:24 +0100 GMT [11:06 CEST] you wrote:
MDP Incorrect. The cut mark is a standard PGP-modified cut mark and
MDP works fine with the newest release (which has been changed to
MDP correctly recognise a PGP-modified cut mark).
You don't need the newest release. It
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, Michael Wagner wrote:
Does TB! support the administration of newsletters? Maybe something
like a half automatic (or better automatic) unsubscribe function via
mail?
Search the help file for Using The Bat! as a Mailing List Server, that
should help you get going.
--
Is there any website that details anti-spam basics with tb?
There seem to be so many tools, that I am not sure where is the route
to think about.
Are tools there to complement each other, or just for a variety of
options?
You feel like testing new methods with like a test account or
something.
Hi Michael,
on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:31:52 -0500GMT, you wrote:
MLC Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? I don't see it, but I'm
MLC bad at finding features I'm not already using, and I'm also using an
MLC old version of TB!
Delete the %QUOTES macro from your reply template.
MLC
Hi
Do you know how to print in html ?
Thank you
Franck
Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MLC Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text?
Delete the %QUOTES macro from your reply template.
I think he is after suppressing quoted text in posts
received. I also very much dislike going through quoted
messaging to get to the response. I usually read in real
time, remember the
I tried to filter this message in a folder, but without success! Does someone know a
solution? I tried many versions. With other mails I don't have problems.
This is a forwarded message
From : RentS Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Roland Burger' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date :
Hello Lee!
I don't see this header in either mail I received or sent. Do you have
the paid version of AVG 6?
AVG 6 Free version here. To be sure: Is your configuration for
the mail proxy set properly (AVG Control Center/Mail proxy)? Is AVG
scanning your mail at all?
--
Annette
TB!2.10.03
Hello Marck,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 09:57:28 +0100 GMT (01/06/2004, 15:57 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
MDP The buttons are not the same functions we are talking about. One is
MDP Copy - clearly about copying text content to the clipboard. The
MDP other is Copy to..., but I'm not sure where
Hello Robin,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 08:52:32 +1000 GMT (01/06/2004, 05:52 +0700 GMT),
Robin Anson wrote:
RA For me the menu options appear when you select text in the message, and
RA they are for copying a block of text, not a message. The buttons remain
RA greyed out even when text is selected.
Hello rich,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 9:41:20 AM, you wrote:
rich I looked at the link above and see a couple of the images are
rich missing... Are they now irrelevant I suppose?
Try and reload it. I checked all the links and they are all correct
(and the page shows up fine here at work).
--
LG Hello Annette and Paul,
LG I don't see this header in either mail I received or sent. Do you have
LG the paid version of AVG 6?
no, free version here.
AM Lee, AVG will add a header to your scanned mails, for example:
AM | X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 6.0.0 [452]
I'm not sure how it adds
Hi ETM,
on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 13:03:14 -0400GMT, you wrote:
MLC Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text?
Delete the %QUOTES macro from your reply template.
E I think he is after suppressing quoted text in posts
E received.
OIC. I understood it was for own replies. In that case Roelof's
On Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 1:14 PM, you wrote:
AM AVG 6 Free version here. To be sure: Is your configuration for
AM the mail proxy set properly (AVG Control Center/Mail proxy)? Is AVG
AM scanning your mail at all?
I have the free version, and I don't have a mail proxy tab in the
control panel.
Hello Robin,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:24:18 +1000 GMT (01/06/2004, 11:24 +0700 GMT),
Robin Anson wrote:
RA Hmm, I've found the problem. If reply to your original message, TB!
RA recognises your cut mark when it replies,
ACK.
RA although in the RTViewer text after the cut mark doesn't show as a
RA
Hello Roland,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 19:09:21 +0200 GMT (02/06/2004, 00:09 +0700 GMT),
Roland Burger wrote:
RB I tried to filter this message in a folder, but without
RB success! Does someone know a solution? I tried many versions. With
RB other mails I don't have problems.
What is your current
Hi Roland,
on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 19:09:21 +0200GMT, you wrote:
RB I tried to filter this message in a folder, but without
RB success! Does someone know a solution? I tried many versions. With
RB other mails I don't have problems.
RB This is a forwarded message
RB From : RentS Internet
Hi all,
The problem i have is that as my thread for message gets longer, the size of the
message keeps getting bigger. After about 4 replies, the aby has problems opening it.
Its keeps getting bigger cause there are a million blank lines between text. Is there
a solution?
Hope there is, cause
Hi Thomas,
on Wed, 2 Jun 2004 00:43:15 +0700 GMT (which was Tuesday, June 1,
2004, 19:43 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others:
What is your current filter, the one that doesn't work?
RB This is a forwarded message
RB From : RentS Internet
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Hello Ketil,
Monday, May 31, 2004, 9:36:43 PM, Ketil Thorsen wrote:
ML And yes, the FreeWare
ML version works with The Bat! through the plug-in.
KT Do you have the link to the plugin ?
ftp://ftp.grisoft.cz/pub/softw/thebat
Hello Paul!
I have the free version, and I don't have a mail proxy tab in the
control panel. I have:
Resident shield, E-mao; scanner, Update manager, Scheduler, Information
where is this mail proxy?
Well, I've got the AVG Email Scanner (beta!!):
I am not using a recent TB version too much. But, it isn't clear, does
it have a complete solution against spam on board? It seems like you
have a couple menu entries. But you wonder, where is the intelligence?
It's not fighting spam already.
If you get a message like:
Cable_TV Filter Lets You
On Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 2:58 PM, you wrote:
where is this mail proxy?
AM Well, I've got the AVG Email Scanner (beta!!):
AM http://www.grisoft.cz/beta/avgemc/avgemc_en.htm
AM which seems to add that additional tab Mail proxy between
AM Email-scanner and Update manager, that you
On Wed 2 June 2004, 3:34:39 +1000, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
RA although in the RTViewer text after the cut mark doesn't show as a
RA signature.
NAK. Over here, the RTV recognises the cut mark.
RA If I verify your signature, and reply to the tab labelled OK - PGP
RA verified the cut mark does
Hello Adam,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 9:10:18 PM, you wrote:
A I am not using a recent TB version too much. But, it isn't clear, does
A it have a complete solution against spam on board? It seems like you
A have a couple menu entries. But you wonder, where is the intelligence?
A It's not fighting
Hi All,
I'm expirencing some bizarre behavior with the Bat! v1.62. When I
attempt to download mail I get an error message telling me that it
couldn't store the file. When I look at the Inbox messages.tbb
file in Windows Explorer it's a whopping 2.1 gigs.
This shouldn't be the case as there are
Hello list,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 7:44:54 AM, I wrote:
C Where does TB keep the QTs? Couldn't I edit the file where TB keeps
C them with an external text editor?
I found all QTs in the file ACCOUNT.QTN in the account folder in
your mail directory (for example: D:\...\The [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 4:27:30 PM, you wrote:
PS You can use systems like POPFile with The Bat!, but
PS personally I don't see much value in doing so. Filters that sit in
PS front of mail clients (like POPFile) take longer to train and are much
PS less likely to build up a good base of
Hello Philip,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 5:57:30 PM, you wrote:
PS The most common anti-spam plugin for The Bat! (BayesIt) primarily uses
PS a statistical analysis of the email - it looks for words that are
PS common to spam, but not to legitimate email.
PS In your example, the words all for
On Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 4:54 PM, you wrote:
NO Hi All,
NO Now, to top it all off, the Inbox lists a total of zero messages while
NO it's tbb file still has a size of 2.1 gigs.
NO Any suggestions as to what may be going on?
have you purged and/or compressed your folders?? no size is ever
Hello Lou,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 10:15:01 PM, you wrote:
LY Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 4:27:30 PM, you wrote:
LY At the risk of sounding argumentative, which is not my intent:
;-)
LY Any antispam program, plug in or not, has to sit in front of the
LY email, before the mail client decides where
First thing that comes to mind is running a virus scan
(and maybe more then one program on just those files to be sure).
If your inbox is empty, I doubt it would hurt to rename the file to something like
messages.old
then restart TB and see if it builds a new file(and your old messages are still
Hello Cyrille,
Friday, May 28, 2004, 10:51:07 AM, you wrote:
C Why should I use PGP ?
Why not?
PGP (or GPG) are mostly used by people for signing emails. If you want
people to be able to say, with certainty, that an email was from you
then the best way is to sign it. After all, I could easily
Hello Adam,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 10:42:02 PM, you wrote:
A Hello Philip,
A I was using the menu items for marking junk. But so far it hadn't had
A a clear effect. It moved the messages I was on to a Junk mail folder.
A But it did not act on later mail.
Mark some mail as Not Junk. Just pick
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Hello all,
Didn't I see a post here about a tag line manager for The Bat!? (In
case you're not familiar with the term tag line, it's a carry-over
from BBS networks like FidoNet; it's a short line (usually preceeded
by three periods (...)) with a
Hello Marc,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 4:19:43 PM, you wrote:
Marc I'd like to find an auxillary program to pipe a selectable
Marc tagline into the message... Anyone know of one?
I don't know about selectable, but TB is fully capable of adding
randomized taglines either from the account properties
Hello TBUDL,
The message content macro %LANGUAGE = Language ID allows to set
the spell checker language.
The help file indicates the language IDs for many languages, but
some are missing:
Does anybody know what are the language IDs for
- German (Old spelling) [shipped as a part of
Hello Marc,
Wednesday, June 2, 2004, 12:19:43 AM, you wrote:
ML I'd like to find an auxillary program to pipe a selectable tagline
ML into the message... Anyone know of one?
You can make a file with your preferred taglines. If that also falls under
your definition of selectable, then you
Hello Leif!
On Tuesday, June 01, 2004, 5:24 PM, you wrote:
Marc I'd like to find an auxillary program to pipe a selectable
Marc tagline into the message... Anyone know of one?
LG I don't know about selectable, but TB is fully capable of adding
LG randomized taglines either from the account
Hello Philip,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 7:34:12 PM, you wrote:
A How can you tell what the score was given to an e-mail?
PS There are some logs it produces - on NT/2K/XP systems, they're stored
PS in \Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\BayesIt - look
That's it. Or ..\batmail\bayesit
Hello Robin,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 1:47:13 PM, you wrote:
RA ...
RA This would allow you to have:
RA* one SetLanguage QT,
RA* one master template for new messages
RA* one master template for replies
RA* one master template for forwarding
RA Then each language that you want to
Hello ETM,
I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like this one
can be viewed as threads, why quote then?
I usually read messages in the preview pane. If the height of the pane is
full with quoted text (i.e. I have to scroll down to find the first line of
the response) I
On Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 6:00 PM, you wrote:
PS PGP (or GPG) are mostly used by people for signing emails. If you want
PS people to be able to say, with certainty, that an email was from you
PS then the best way is to sign it. After all, I could easily set up my
PS own SMTP server and spoof
I usually read messages in the preview pane. If the height
of the pane is full with quoted text (i.e. I have to
scroll down to find the first line of the response) I
usually just skip that message.
I also read in preview pane making top quoting very
unpleasant and usually qualifying it for an
Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that
doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a
cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since
at least three lines of text is added to your signature by
the list server.
Marck, would you please give me a sample cut
Hello Cyrille,
My impression is that each %QINCLUDE(xxx) line in the templates
provokes a line feed in the final output.
How can I avoid this?
Include %- without the quote marks at the end of each QINCLUDE line.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v2.10.03
Hello ETM,
unread throwaway.
Hmmm, unread throwaway. I like that term :)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v2.10.03
Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
My Reply and Forward templates (for non-mailing list mail) show the
original from, to, cc, date, etc. Unfortunately, when one or more of
those fields is blank, the field description and blank space still
appear in my replies and forwards.
Is there a way to use the %if macro so if the cc field,
On Wed 2 June 2004, 8:36:51 +1000, Cyrille wrote:
RA You might also find that the first part of the reply and forwarding templates
RA for each language is simply the new message template for that language.
I am not sure whether I understand how you mean this.
Let me show by an example.
For
Dear Etm,
@1-Jun-2004, 19:42 -0400 (02-Jun 00:42 UK time) ETM [E] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:
Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that
doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a
cut mark. ... snip
E Marck, would you please give me a sample cut mark
Hello Code,
Is there a way to use the %if macro so if the cc field, for example,
is blank, the Cc: is not displayed?
Use the Recipient List macro that you can find here:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#recipient+list+-indented
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El
On Wed 2 June 2004, 9:45:49 +1000, Code 2 wrote:
My Reply and Forward templates (for non-mailing list mail) show the
original from, to, cc, date, etc. Unfortunately, when one or more of
those fields is blank, the field description and blank space still
appear in my replies and forwards.
Is
Dear Ian,
@2-Jun-2004, 10:53 +1000 (02-Jun 01:53 UK time) Ian A. White [IAW]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The:
... snip
IAW and in other cases the space is lost for various reasons.
We no longer moderate such cases. Only the omissions are now
moderated, so I'm afraid that your excellent
* Cyrille writes:
Where does TB keep the QTs? Couldn't I edit the file where TB keeps
them with an external text editor?
I found all QTs in the file ACCOUNT.QTN in the account folder in
your mail directory (for example: D:\...\The Bat!\cyrille[...]\ACCOUNT.QTN)
Does anybody has some
Miguel Urech, [MU] wrote:
MU I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like
MU this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then?
Giving no information about the message you're replying to is
unacceptable and assumes that all readers thread their messages. This
actually annoys me
Hi,
Is there a way to move to next in thread while in view folders mode?
It seems like any of the navigation keys while in view folders mode
will take you to the next message with a different reference/subject
but not the next message in the thread. (I hop this makes some
sense...)
Thanks,
Marck,
I think you are wonderful, I love TheBat!, but I took one
look at what you sent me and my eyes crossed. I belong to
approximately 40 genealogy-related mailing lists, all top
posters, all heavy traffic. I have been here a long time, I
try to read the posts that might involve me, I try
--
Elaine
Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I just replied to myself to check and my cut mark did
nothing. I am going to mention that I have tried the
cut mark in my
Hello Elaine!
On Tuesday, June 01, 2004, 9:17 PM, you wrote:
E And I did do a dashdashspacereturn which is why this
E whole scenario irritates me.
Elaine, I have learned so much from you, both here and on various
Rootsweb lists. If you'd like to try this again:
When I used to be very paranoid,
Hello ETM,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 19:42:42 -0400 GMT (02/06/2004, 06:42 +0700 GMT),
ETM wrote:
E Marck, would you please give me a sample cut mark (template?
E macro?) for my signature for use only when replying to this
E list since all my other mailing lists use top posting and
E therefore a cut
Hello ETM,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 22:17:55 -0400 GMT (02/06/2004, 09:17 +0700 GMT),
ETM wrote:
E I just replied to myself to check and my cut mark did
E nothing. I am going to mention that I have tried the
E cut mark in my past life and it did nothing for me then
E either.
E And I did do a
Hi Allen,
Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 7:37:29 AM, you wrote:
A Even if all that is irrelevant, there is some value in a strictly inforced
A 'my way or the highway' approach--if there were conditions on when top
A posting was and was not accepted, it would be near impossible to enforce
A any
Hello Allie,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 20:28:28 -0500 GMT (02/06/2004, 08:28 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:
MU I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like
MU this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then?
AM Giving no information about the message you're replying to is
AM
Hello Arthur,
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 21:36:17 -0400 GMT (02/06/2004, 08:36 +0700 GMT),
Arthur Tan wrote:
AT Is there a way to move to next in thread while in view folders mode?
If you view threaded, right arrow or down arrow should work.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
Moderator der deutschen The Bat!
Hello Ian,
Wednesday, June 2, 2004, 2:53:04 AM, you wrote:
IAW I know this does not strictly follow RFC's, but would it be
IAW unacceptable for TB! to also include just -- followed by a carriage
IAW return/linefeed all on its own as a valid cut mark as well as --
IAW followed by a space on a
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