Re: e33 (this list and attachments)

2002-11-08 Thread John De Hoog
I'm surprised the mailing list itself lets attachments go through. Isn't that kind of odd, and something that ought to be prevented? (I'm going to be unsubscribing until it is fixed, in any case.) -- John De Hoog http://dehoog.org Current

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Henning Bredenkötter
Attention! It seems you have got a virus on your machine! Please make sure you have the latest update of your virus scanner and check all your files right away! Take care, John Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: e33 (this list and attachments)

2002-11-08 Thread Gerard
ON Friday, November 8, 2002, 8:42:07 AM, you wrote: JDH I'm surprised the mailing list itself lets attachments go through. JDH Isn't that kind of odd, and something that ought to be prevented? John, In the past it has been proven useful to be able to send attachments to the list for analysis

Re: e33 (this list and attachments)

2002-11-08 Thread John De Hoog
Gerard wrote... If you feel there is a risk a catching a virus this way I suggest you use a good virus checker. A virus might arrive in your everyday mail :( I do have virus checkers on all my machines, but it's still surprising to get one from a mailing list, where I have no control over who

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Keith Anderson
On 08 November 2002 at 02:36:31 in mid:79720402.20021107203631;certiflexdimension.com Jonathan wrote: JA -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- JA Hash: SHA1 JA On Thursday, November 07, 2002, Gary wrote... Hello Scott, AKA John ;) ... JA No offence, but don't you think the attitude is a

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Keith, 8-Nov-2002, 09:07 Keith Anderson [KA] in mid:49203029821.20021108090748;offspin.net said: JA No offence, but don't you think the attitude is a little rude? I thought it a little rude myself (sorry Gary!) but since no offence was taken the

e33

2002-11-08 Thread Ochrid
Hello all, My AVG did *not* pick up the eicar test file. (I get the list messages a a digest). I am worried now. How do I test whether I am safe? -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.62b7 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Deborah W
On Friday, November 8, 2002, 10:35:41 AM, Ochrid wrote: O My AVG did *not* pick up the eicar test file. My AVG did. O (I get the list messages a a digest). Does the digest mode discard attachments? Could that be why? O I am worried now. O How do I test whether I am safe? Are you running the

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Thomas! On Friday, November 8, 2002 at 4:25:29 AM you wrote: Can we just do away with automated replies? They have never been anything else but a nuisance. Sure you can do a lot with TB, but this is a feature I'd like to see permanently disabled. Not completely but it should be

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Clive! On Friday, November 8, 2002 at 7:50:15 AM you wrote: I think Gary's comments are justified. No. There are list rules concerning tone and Gary's comment was out of line. Not just because of the rules but because it was plain rude to comment on a personal level without knowing what

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Allie C Martin
In mid:151207187.20021108065015;ukf.net, Clive Taylor [CT] wrote:' CT I didn't know this was the EICAR file because NOD's plugin CT deletes the attachment and doesn't flag up which virus was CT attempting to infest this machine when it dumps the message into CT the quarantine folder. It could

e33 . not caught by AVG

2002-11-08 Thread Ochrid
DWAre you running the most recent virus definitions from AVG? When did you DWlast update? My AVG updates automatically every two days, I just did a DWmanual download a minute ago there's a new update - so it must be less DWthan 48 hours since the last one. Thanks, Deborah, but I do check

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Marek Mikus
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Ochrid wrote: My AVG did *not* pick up the eicar test file. (I get the list messages a a digest). I am worried now. How do I test whether I am safe? in digest, You think, messages (one with Eicar) are attached in one MSG attachment? This is a problem in The Bat!,

Re: e33 (this list and attachments)

2002-11-08 Thread Gerard
ON Friday, November 8, 2002, 9:54:41 AM, you wrote: JDH I do have virus checkers on all my machines, but it's still surprising JDH to get one from a mailing list, where I have no control over who the JDH sender is. John, That's life, full of surprises ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:Pine.LNX.4.44.0211081210250.10775-10;lucie.gin, Marek Mikus [MM] wrote:' MM in digest, You think, messages (one with Eicar) are attached in MM one MSG attachment? Yes. MM This is a problem in The Bat!, not in plugin or AVG. Nested MM

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hi Thomas, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:47:57 +0700 Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eicar.com Why did my PC-Cillin6 with Real-Time Scan enabled not pick it up? Ask PC-Cillin :-) My AVG w/ TB!-plugin caught it :-) Seems your scanning ain't this effective as it should be, maybe you want to

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Jason
Attention! It seems you have got a virus on your machine! Please make sure you have the latest update of your virus scanner and check all your files right away! Take care, John Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Ochrid, on Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:35:41 +0100GMT (08.11.02, 11:35 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:152887766.20021108113541;xs4all.nl : O My AVG did *not* pick up the eicar test file. O (I get the list messages a a digest). O I am worried now. O How do I test whether I am safe? Try to save the

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Jason! On Friday, November 8, 2002 at 1:17:02 PM you wrote: It seems you have got a virus on your machine! Please make sure you have the latest update of your virus scanner and check all your files right away! OK, your plug-in works fine, it triggers the necessary automatic

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Roland Burger
Attention! It seems you have got a virus on your machine! Please make sure you have the latest update of your virus scanner and check all your files right away! Take care, John Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Roland! On Friday, November 8, 2002 at 1:40:40 PM you wrote: Take care, John From shows Roland and it is signed by John? -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62/Beta6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Asking dumb questions is easier than correcting dumb mistakes.

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 at 03:41:24 [GMT +0100] John wrote: It was obviously a mistake. I have been sending it to myself, for testing purposes and inadvertently sent it to the wrong address. My apologies to all. Didn't get anything. Attachment was caught by ISP

Re: e33 . not caught by AVG

2002-11-08 Thread Ochrid
Peter wrote: Try to save the file. My AV program doesn't check mail attachments either, but it checks everything I save to any disk. I use AVP I deleted message and attachment straight away, but wondered why someone else in this group using AVG plus TB plugin reports a proper reaction by AVG,

Re: e33 . not caught by AVG

2002-11-08 Thread Ron Secord
Hi Ochrid, Friday, November 08, 2002, 14:50 +0100 (8:50 AM here) Ochrid [O] in mid:10212602902.20021108145056;xs4all.nl said to The Bat List: O So I wondered if I have somehow set something wrong. I have all O email-scans etc. enabled. Do you also have (under Options - Virus Protection) the two

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, November 08, 2002, Deborah W wrote... O I am worried now. How do I test whether I am safe? Are you running the most recent virus definitions from AVG? When did you last update? My AVG updates automatically every two days, I just did a

Re: e33 . not caught by AVG

2002-11-08 Thread Ochrid
O So I wondered if I have somehow set something wrong. I have all O email-scans etc. enabled. RDo you also have (under Options - Virus Protection) the two boxes at Rthe bottom checked that Check attachments before opening saving? RThis may help where the recent EICAR test file was an

Re[2]: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Deborah W
On Friday, November 8, 2002, 2:47:43 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: JA The Eicar test virus should not need an update in the virus JA definitions file, and should be there from the very beginning of the JA life of the virus scanner. It's almost a defacto standard for quick JA tests on viruses.

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:48:34 +0100 GMT (08/11/02, 18:48 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: Ask PC-Cillin :-) My AVG w/ TB!-plugin caught it :-) Seems your scanning ain't this effective as it should be, maybe you want to test if PC-Cillin is capable of detecting eicar from a

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Clive, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:50:15 + GMT (08/11/02, 13:50 +0700 GMT), Clive Taylor wrote: I think Gary's comments are justified. I didn't know this was the EICAR file because NOD's plugin deletes the attachment and doesn't flag up which virus was attempting to infest this machine

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dierk, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:49:31 +0100 GMT (08/11/02, 17:49 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: BTW, your last sig cookie was a bit ... racy, wasn't it. That depends *entirely* on your phantasy. I cannot help it if you have a dirty mind... ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen

Re: e33 . not caught by AVG

2002-11-08 Thread Paul Wilson
Friday, 11/8/2002, 8:32 AM Hi Ochrid, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, at 16:34:05 [GMT +0100] (which was 7:34 AM where I live) you wrote about: 'e33 . not caught by AVG' O But I would like AVG to warn me *before* I save something to O disc. (with bugbears and its off spring I was always properly O warned

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hi Thomas, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 23:08:47 +0700 Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask PC-Cillin :-) My AVG w/ TB!-plugin caught it :-) Seems your scanning ain't this effective as it should be, maybe you want to test if PC-Cillin is capable of detecting eicar from a file by saving the

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hi Dierk, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:29:45 +0100 Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take care, John From shows Roland and it is signed by John? Must be the template not changed to reflect a 'personal style' like ones own name :-/ Default settings, not having a look at it ... 'Windows

Re[3]: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Anne
Friday, November 8, 2002, 2:40:24 AM, John wrote in message mid:4154599662.20021107214024;verizon.net J It was obviously a mistake. I have been sending it to myself, for J testing purposes and inadvertently sent it to the wrong address. J My apologies to all. No problem here John - just went to

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:48:04 +0100 GMT (08/11/02, 23:48 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: So your Plugin seems not to work as intendet or ain't properly configured. It is not a plug-in, and it used to work as expected (i.e. advise of any viruses while downloading mail). If

Re[2]: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Bats- NOD32 (not the plugin) also caught the test virus in digest mode. As did Norton, even with virus definitions not up-to-date. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.61 |

Re: e33 . not caught by AVG

2002-11-08 Thread Ochrid
O But I would like AVG to warn me *before* I save something to O disc. (with bugbears and its off spring I was always properly O warned). Paul I use AVG and it gave me a pop-up notification of the virus and Paul isolated it. thanks for responding, Paul, but it gets more worrying: you and

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Allie, On Friday, November 8, 2002 06:45 your local time, which was 03:45 my local time, Allie Martin wrote; MM This is a problem in The Bat!, not in plugin or AVG. Nested MM messages are not correctly checked, because antivirus plugin have MM not full message for checking. This was already

Re[2]: e33 . not caught by AVG

2002-11-08 Thread Patrick G.
Hello Ochrid, On Friday, November 8, 2002, 1:09:49 PM, you wrote: O I would almost ask John to send me the eicar again... You email it to yourself at www.info-techs.com/eicar.shtml -- Patrick G. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Doug Weller
Hi, Friday, November 8, 2002, 11:48:34 AM, you wrote: Hi Thomas, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:47:57 +0700 Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eicar.com Why did my PC-Cillin6 with Real-Time Scan enabled not pick it up? Ask PC-Cillin :-) My AVG w/ TB!-plugin caught it :-) Seems your

Re: e33 . not caught by AVG

2002-11-08 Thread Anthony Xin Chen
Hi All, On 8 Nov 2002 19:09:49 (my local time 10:09:49), Ochrid wrote (in mid:1991142472.20021108190949;xs4all.nl) So I wonder why I didn't get a pop-up! Like you, the AVG didn't warn me upon receiving the eicar test file last night. It turns out that the AVG plug in is not activiated. Go

Re[2]: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Anne
Friday, November 8, 2002, 10:25:56 AM, Marck wrote in message mid:711723508.20021108102556;silverstones.com MDP The limit has been 40kb and I have just dropped it to 25kb (which MDP should be enough for most of us). That wouldn't have stopped the MDP eicar test (at on 3kb it's pretty lean) but

Re: e33

2002-11-08 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anne, 9-Nov-2002, 02:52 Anne [A] in mid:15812217495.20021109025228;gmx.co.uk said: MDP The limit has been 40kb and I have just dropped it to 25kb MDP (which should be enough for most of us). That wouldn't have MDP stopped the eicar test (at on

e33

2002-11-07 Thread John
Hello Scott, -- Best regards, John eicar.com Description: Binary data Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Gary
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:14:23PM -0500 or thereabouts, John wrote: Hello Scott, I would like to know what kind of idiot you are, by not only sending an attachment to this list, but also sending the eicar test virus. I mean, do you really have any brains. There are some people who would think

Re: {VIRUS?} e33

2002-11-07 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, November 07, 2002, John wrote... Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed. Warning: Please read the VirusWarning.txt attachment(s) for more information. lol... I don't think you're meant to send it to the list

Re[2]: e33

2002-11-07 Thread John
Hello Jonathan, It was obviously a mistake. I have been sending it to myself, for testing purposes and inadvertently sent it to the wrong address. My apologies to all. Thursday, November 7, 2002, 9:36:31 PM, you wrote: JA -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- JA Hash: SHA1 JA On Thursday, November

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, November 07, 2002, Gary wrote... Hello Scott, I would like to know what kind of idiot you are, by not only sending an attachment to this list, but also sending the eicar test virus. I mean, do you really have any brains. There are

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
Hi John, On Thursday, November 7, 2002 21:14 your local time, (Friday, 07:59 my local time), you [J] wrote: eicar.com Thanks for the surprise drill with Eicar John ! Next time send out a real and less conspicuous one ;) -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/\ Kathmandu - NP

Re[3]: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Lou Yovin
Thursday, November 7, 2002, 9:40:24 PM, you wrote: J Hello Jonathan, J It was obviously a mistake. I have been sending it to myself, for J testing purposes and inadvertently sent it to the wrong address. J My apologies to all. snip Not a problem here, thanks for the wake up call. Glad to see

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Quin Selman
Attention! It seems you have got a virus on your machine! Please make sure you have the latest update of your virus scanner and check all your files right away! Take care, Scott Johnson Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, 9:51 PM, you wrote: LY Not a problem here, thanks for the wake up call. Glad to see Norton LY and ZoneAlarm both jump all over it. More fun than the jerk who just LY sent me Klez. AVG found it, no problem ;) -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows XP

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo John, On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:14:23 -0500 your time, you authored this: J ALERT!!! J This e-mail contained one or more infected files. J The following attachments were infected and have been repaired: J -none- J The following infected

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Sudip, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:27:08 +0545 GMT (08/11/02, 09:42 +0700 GMT), Sudip Pokhrel wrote: eicar.com Thanks for the surprise drill with Eicar John ! Next time send out a real and less conspicuous one ;) Why did my PC-Cillin6 with Real-Time Scan enabled not pick it up? --

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Quin, On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:04:00 -0700 GMT (08/11/02, 10:04 +0700 GMT), Quin Selman wrote: Attention! Can we just do away with automated replies? They have never been anything else but a nuisance. Sure you can do a lot with TB, but this is a feature I'd like to see permanently disabled.

Re[2]: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Jody Watts
E-Mail Message ~~ From: Thomas Fernandez Date: Thursday, November 07, 2002 at 8:47 PM Subject: e33 _ TF Hello Sudip, TF On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:27:08 +0545 GMT (08/11/02, 09:42 +0700 GMT), TF Sudip Pokhrel wrote

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Clive Taylor
08 November 2002, 02:36, you wrote: JA No offence, but don't you think the attitude is a little rude? I mean JA it could have just been a mess up with a folder template... A mistake JA that probably everybody makes every now and again (hence Marck's JA warnings). I think Gary's comments are

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread William Moore
Hello Clive Thank you for your email dated Friday, November 8, 2002, 6:50:15 AM, in which you wrote: CT NOD's plugin ...doesn't flag up which virus was attempting to infest CT this machine This is one of the reasons I don't use the plug-in. It's immediately obvious if you use NOD32 'as is'.

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, November 08, 2002, Clive Taylor wrote... JA No offence, but don't you think the attitude is a little rude? I JA mean it could have just been a mess up with a folder template... JA A mistake that probably everybody makes every now and again

Re: e33

2002-11-07 Thread Clive Taylor
08 November 2002, 07:07, you wrote: CT NOD's plugin ...doesn't flag up which virus was attempting to infest CT this machine WM This is one of the reasons I don't use the plug-in. It's immediately WM obvious if you use NOD32 'as is'. You're right. It was a good test and the plugin is now