[Techno-Chat]: Re: Gogle Chrome

[Gordon Smith]

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least. They’re talking about doing something 
similar to support Google Docs apparently. So from that perspective, Chrome 
being the default browser would seem logical.


On 21 Apr 2019, at 16:28, Joshua Gregory  wrote:

interesting thing that you mention all of this, because from what I gather, 
Microsoft edge is going to move to a Google chrome codebase. should supposedly 
make it better, although how, for us screen reader users, I don't know. Should 
probably be the same actually. apparently they're doing this because they're 
edge ml, or whatever the engine that they were using to develop edge, wasn't 
doing as well as  they thought it would, so they just thought it would be best 
to switch to chrome I guess.


On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 5:50 AM Gordon Smith mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>> wrote:
There’s only one thing I used to dislike about Chrome, and that was the way it 
wrote home, so to speak, regarding where you’ve visited and sometimes your 
personal data. I believe, however, that Google has now changed that behaviour. 
So I might just reinstall it on my PC. I hate Microsoft Edge. It’s slow, and 
very unfriendly to use, I find. So on Windows, I went back to Internet Explorer.

But that’s another area of concern for me, since Internet Explorer isn’t the 
most secure browser these days, so maybe time to retry Chrome on Windows.


On 20 Apr 2019, at 14:48, Dane Trethowan mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:

I have Chrome on all my Windows systems here.
In the early days I used to have a lot of trouble with Chrome just crashing for 
no apparent reason on Windows machines.
This problem for the most part seems to have been addressed by the team at 
Google and I just don’t see the issue now.
Google is lightning fast on the platforms I use it on and it works so that’s 
good enough for me.


> On 20 Apr 2019, at 7:43 pm, Gordon Smith  > wrote:
> 
> The Windows version didn’t impress me all that much, to be utterly honest. In 
> fact, I removed it after a while. On my BrailleNote Touch, (which runs 
> Android), it does work very well with speech turned off, which is my usual 
> method of working.
> 
> HumanWare also has its own browser, called “KeyWeb”. It’s similar in some 
> respects to Chrome, and I suspect it’s built around similar source code. 
> However, KeyWeb doesn’t show you a real version of most web pages. For a 
> start, it doesn’t seem to indicate the presence of images, although it will 
> display Alt Text and LongDesc elements. On the whole though, I prefer to use 
> Chrome when browsing on that device.
> 
> 
> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:27, Dane Trethowan  > wrote:
> 
> Google Chrome all round is a very nice browser on whatever platform you 
> choose to use it, IOS, OS, Android and Windows.
> 
> 
>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 2:21 am, Gordon Smith > > wrote:
>> 
>> Your points are well taken. I was going to mention the Windows example 
>> actually, although another one springs to mind as well. For me, for whatever 
>> reason, Safari on MacOS is nowhere near as effective as Google Chrome is on 
>> that platform. I see many, many sites where Safari either just displays half 
>> of the web page, whereas Chrome shows it all and makes it accessible. Often, 
>> Safari fails to show up frames and controls such as video buttons. I don’t 
>> really want to get into a MacOS discussion here, that’s more appropriate for 
>> Mac Access. But the point here is that the differences between the browsers 
>> is amazing.
>> 
>> And yes, I am afraid I couldn’t resist it. To join the Mac Access mailing 
>> list, which is the sister group to this one, run on the same terms on the 
>> same servers, please send a blank. Message to:
>> > >
>> Respond to the Cookie message you receive backhand you’re good to go.
>> 
>> Now, enough about Mac and Apple. ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:04, Dane Trethowan > > wrote:
>> 
>> The answer to your question would very much depend on the user of the device.
>> Some Apps work better with Google Talkback whilst other work better with 
>> Samsung Voice Assist.
>> Samsung Voice Assist is in fact a modified version of Google Talkback and 
>> Google Talkback is an open source project so anyone can make changes or 
>> modifications as they see fit.
>> A further example of modifications being made to Google Talkback is with 
>> Amazon’s VoiceView Screen Reader which is found in many Amazon Tablets and 
>> Echo devices with a screen such as Echo Spot and Show.
>> The situation with Google Talkback and Voice Assistant can also be compared 
>> to that often encountered when using Windows on a PC.
>> Windows users will be all-too-familiar with the situation of some Windows 
>> Apps being more accessible when a particular Windows Screen Reader is being 
>> used.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 1:44 am, 

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Gogle Chrome

[Gordon Smith]

Yes, you mentioned this to me a while ago. I’ll check, because I’m sure I’ve 
done this. If so I’ll let you know how when I’ve tried it again.


On 21 Apr 2019, at 14:21, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Actually there is one thing I don’t like about Google Chrome on the Mac.
Perhaps I’m missing something and I hope I am, I can’t find any way to select 
text in Google Chrome on the Mac using Voiceover.


> On 21 Apr 2019, at 7:49 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> There’s only one thing I used to dislike about Chrome, and that was the way 
> it wrote home, so to speak, regarding where you’ve visited and sometimes your 
> personal data. I believe, however, that Google has now changed that 
> behaviour. So I might just reinstall it on my PC. I hate Microsoft Edge. It’s 
> slow, and very unfriendly to use, I find. So on Windows, I went back to 
> Internet Explorer.
> 
> But that’s another area of concern for me, since Internet Explorer isn’t the 
> most secure browser these days, so maybe time to retry Chrome on Windows.
> 
> 
> On 20 Apr 2019, at 14:48, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> I have Chrome on all my Windows systems here.
> In the early days I used to have a lot of trouble with Chrome just crashing 
> for no apparent reason on Windows machines.
> This problem for the most part seems to have been addressed by the team at 
> Google and I just don’t see the issue now.
> Google is lightning fast on the platforms I use it on and it works so that’s 
> good enough for me.
> 
> 
>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 7:43 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> The Windows version didn’t impress me all that much, to be utterly honest. 
>> In fact, I removed it after a while. On my BrailleNote Touch, (which runs 
>> Android), it does work very well with speech turned off, which is my usual 
>> method of working.
>> 
>> HumanWare also has its own browser, called “KeyWeb”. It’s similar in some 
>> respects to Chrome, and I suspect it’s built around similar source code. 
>> However, KeyWeb doesn’t show you a real version of most web pages. For a 
>> start, it doesn’t seem to indicate the presence of images, although it will 
>> display Alt Text and LongDesc elements. On the whole though, I prefer to use 
>> Chrome when browsing on that device.
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:27, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> Google Chrome all round is a very nice browser on whatever platform you 
>> choose to use it, IOS, OS, Android and Windows.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 2:21 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your points are well taken. I was going to mention the Windows example 
>>> actually, although another one springs to mind as well. For me, for 
>>> whatever reason, Safari on MacOS is nowhere near as effective as Google 
>>> Chrome is on that platform. I see many, many sites where Safari either just 
>>> displays half of the web page, whereas Chrome shows it all and makes it 
>>> accessible. Often, Safari fails to show up frames and controls such as 
>>> video buttons. I don’t really want to get into a MacOS discussion here, 
>>> that’s more appropriate for Mac Access. But the point here is that the 
>>> differences between the browsers is amazing.
>>> 
>>> And yes, I am afraid I couldn’t resist it. To join the Mac Access mailing 
>>> list, which is the sister group to this one, run on the same terms on the 
>>> same servers, please send a blank. Message to:
>>> 
>>> Respond to the Cookie message you receive backhand you’re good to go.
>>> 
>>> Now, enough about Mac and Apple. ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:04, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The answer to your question would very much depend on the user of the 
>>> device.
>>> Some Apps work better with Google Talkback whilst other work better with 
>>> Samsung Voice Assist.
>>> Samsung Voice Assist is in fact a modified version of Google Talkback and 
>>> Google Talkback is an open source project so anyone can make changes or 
>>> modifications as they see fit.
>>> A further example of modifications being made to Google Talkback is with 
>>> Amazon’s VoiceView Screen Reader which is found in many Amazon Tablets and 
>>> Echo devices with a screen such as Echo Spot and Show.
>>> The situation with Google Talkback and Voice Assistant can also be compared 
>>> to that often encountered when using Windows on a PC.
>>> Windows users will be all-too-familiar with the situation of some Windows 
>>> Apps being more accessible when a particular Windows Screen Reader is being 
>>> used.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Apr 2019, at 1:44 am,   
 wrote:
 
 Some I have a question. Do people use voice assistant more than talkback 
 on galaxy phones? If so why?
 
 Mike
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith  
 Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 6:18 AM
 To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! 
 Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Samsung Galaxy S10 Notes
 
 Just one comment for the moment, as I don’t yet have my planned 
 acquisition of the S10. On a standard 

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Gogle Chrome

[Gordon Smith]

Yes, I believe it’s going to be removed from the Windows install sometime soon. 
It was left there, so I’m told, because of accessibility issues with Edge 
which, so they say, have more or less all been squashed now. So possibly in the 
next major update to Windows, due out later this year, Internet Explorer will 
be removed, and consigned to the history books.

It’s been around for a lot of years now, and there are some well-known leaks, 
apparently, making it one of the least secure browsers around.

I’ve never seen a page that I couldn’t read with Chrome, so I’m going to 
reinstall it shortly and set it up as my default Windows browser.

For PDF documents, I am just starting to use the “Recognise With JAWS” 
functionality. That’s extremely useful to have, I must admit.

Sadly, I’m still on JAWS 2018 at this point in time, as I have 3 Professional 
licenses and can’t afford to update this point in time.


On 21 Apr 2019, at 11:16, Roger Firman  wrote:

Dear Gordon,

I believe that Internet Explorer is not going to be, or is not supported.

I've been using Crome a bit of late and don't really like Microsoft Edge but 
sometimes it is useful for reading some pages.

Regards,

Roger Firman.


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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Gogle Chrome

[Joshua Gregory]

interesting thing that you mention all of this, because from what I gather,
Microsoft edge is going to move to a Google chrome codebase. should
supposedly make it better, although how, for us screen reader users, I
don't know. Should probably be the same actually. apparently they're doing
this because they're edge ml, or whatever the engine that they were using
to develop edge, wasn't doing as well as  they thought it would, so they
just thought it would be best to switch to chrome I guess.

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 5:50 AM Gordon Smith  wrote:

> There’s only one thing I used to dislike about Chrome, and that was the
> way it wrote home, so to speak, regarding where you’ve visited and
> sometimes your personal data. I believe, however, that Google has now
> changed that behaviour. So I might just reinstall it on my PC. I hate
> Microsoft Edge. It’s slow, and very unfriendly to use, I find. So on
> Windows, I went back to Internet Explorer.
>
> But that’s another area of concern for me, since Internet Explorer isn’t
> the most secure browser these days, so maybe time to retry Chrome on
> Windows.
>
>
> On 20 Apr 2019, at 14:48, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>
> I have Chrome on all my Windows systems here.
> In the early days I used to have a lot of trouble with Chrome just
> crashing for no apparent reason on Windows machines.
> This problem for the most part seems to have been addressed by the team at
> Google and I just don’t see the issue now.
> Google is lightning fast on the platforms I use it on and it works so
> that’s good enough for me.
>
>
> > On 20 Apr 2019, at 7:43 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> >
> > The Windows version didn’t impress me all that much, to be utterly
> honest. In fact, I removed it after a while. On my BrailleNote Touch,
> (which runs Android), it does work very well with speech turned off, which
> is my usual method of working.
> >
> > HumanWare also has its own browser, called “KeyWeb”. It’s similar in
> some respects to Chrome, and I suspect it’s built around similar source
> code. However, KeyWeb doesn’t show you a real version of most web pages.
> For a start, it doesn’t seem to indicate the presence of images, although
> it will display Alt Text and LongDesc elements. On the whole though, I
> prefer to use Chrome when browsing on that device.
> >
> >
> > On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:27, Dane Trethowan 
> wrote:
> >
> > Google Chrome all round is a very nice browser on whatever platform you
> choose to use it, IOS, OS, Android and Windows.
> >
> >
> >> On 20 Apr 2019, at 2:21 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> >>
> >> Your points are well taken. I was going to mention the Windows example
> actually, although another one springs to mind as well. For me, for
> whatever reason, Safari on MacOS is nowhere near as effective as Google
> Chrome is on that platform. I see many, many sites where Safari either just
> displays half of the web page, whereas Chrome shows it all and makes it
> accessible. Often, Safari fails to show up frames and controls such as
> video buttons. I don’t really want to get into a MacOS discussion here,
> that’s more appropriate for Mac Access. But the point here is that the
> differences between the browsers is amazing.
> >>
> >> And yes, I am afraid I couldn’t resist it. To join the Mac Access
> mailing list, which is the sister group to this one, run on the same terms
> on the same servers, please send a blank. Message to:
> >> 
> >> Respond to the Cookie message you receive backhand you’re good to go.
> >>
> >> Now, enough about Mac and Apple. ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:04, Dane Trethowan 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The answer to your question would very much depend on the user of the
> device.
> >> Some Apps work better with Google Talkback whilst other work better
> with Samsung Voice Assist.
> >> Samsung Voice Assist is in fact a modified version of Google Talkback
> and Google Talkback is an open source project so anyone can make changes or
> modifications as they see fit.
> >> A further example of modifications being made to Google Talkback is
> with Amazon’s VoiceView Screen Reader which is found in many Amazon Tablets
> and Echo devices with a screen such as Echo Spot and Show.
> >> The situation with Google Talkback and Voice Assistant can also be
> compared to that often encountered when using Windows on a PC.
> >> Windows users will be all-too-familiar with the situation of some
> Windows Apps being more accessible when a particular Windows Screen Reader
> is being used.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 1:44 am,  <
> mmstopk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Some I have a question. Do people use voice assistant more than
> talkback on galaxy phones? If so why?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Gordon Smith 
> >>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 6:18 AM
> >>> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! <
> techno-chat@techno-chat.net>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Samsung Galaxy S10 Notes
> >>>
> >>> Just one comment for the 

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Gogle Chrome

[Dane Trethowan]

Actually there is one thing I don’t like about Google Chrome on the Mac.
Perhaps I’m missing something and I hope I am, I can’t find any way to select 
text in Google Chrome on the Mac using Voiceover.


> On 21 Apr 2019, at 7:49 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> There’s only one thing I used to dislike about Chrome, and that was the way 
> it wrote home, so to speak, regarding where you’ve visited and sometimes your 
> personal data. I believe, however, that Google has now changed that 
> behaviour. So I might just reinstall it on my PC. I hate Microsoft Edge. It’s 
> slow, and very unfriendly to use, I find. So on Windows, I went back to 
> Internet Explorer.
> 
> But that’s another area of concern for me, since Internet Explorer isn’t the 
> most secure browser these days, so maybe time to retry Chrome on Windows.
> 
> 
> On 20 Apr 2019, at 14:48, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> I have Chrome on all my Windows systems here.
> In the early days I used to have a lot of trouble with Chrome just crashing 
> for no apparent reason on Windows machines.
> This problem for the most part seems to have been addressed by the team at 
> Google and I just don’t see the issue now.
> Google is lightning fast on the platforms I use it on and it works so that’s 
> good enough for me.
> 
> 
>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 7:43 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> The Windows version didn’t impress me all that much, to be utterly honest. 
>> In fact, I removed it after a while. On my BrailleNote Touch, (which runs 
>> Android), it does work very well with speech turned off, which is my usual 
>> method of working.
>> 
>> HumanWare also has its own browser, called “KeyWeb”. It’s similar in some 
>> respects to Chrome, and I suspect it’s built around similar source code. 
>> However, KeyWeb doesn’t show you a real version of most web pages. For a 
>> start, it doesn’t seem to indicate the presence of images, although it will 
>> display Alt Text and LongDesc elements. On the whole though, I prefer to use 
>> Chrome when browsing on that device.
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:27, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> Google Chrome all round is a very nice browser on whatever platform you 
>> choose to use it, IOS, OS, Android and Windows.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 2:21 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your points are well taken. I was going to mention the Windows example 
>>> actually, although another one springs to mind as well. For me, for 
>>> whatever reason, Safari on MacOS is nowhere near as effective as Google 
>>> Chrome is on that platform. I see many, many sites where Safari either just 
>>> displays half of the web page, whereas Chrome shows it all and makes it 
>>> accessible. Often, Safari fails to show up frames and controls such as 
>>> video buttons. I don’t really want to get into a MacOS discussion here, 
>>> that’s more appropriate for Mac Access. But the point here is that the 
>>> differences between the browsers is amazing.
>>> 
>>> And yes, I am afraid I couldn’t resist it. To join the Mac Access mailing 
>>> list, which is the sister group to this one, run on the same terms on the 
>>> same servers, please send a blank. Message to:
>>> 
>>> Respond to the Cookie message you receive backhand you’re good to go.
>>> 
>>> Now, enough about Mac and Apple. ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:04, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The answer to your question would very much depend on the user of the 
>>> device.
>>> Some Apps work better with Google Talkback whilst other work better with 
>>> Samsung Voice Assist.
>>> Samsung Voice Assist is in fact a modified version of Google Talkback and 
>>> Google Talkback is an open source project so anyone can make changes or 
>>> modifications as they see fit.
>>> A further example of modifications being made to Google Talkback is with 
>>> Amazon’s VoiceView Screen Reader which is found in many Amazon Tablets and 
>>> Echo devices with a screen such as Echo Spot and Show.
>>> The situation with Google Talkback and Voice Assistant can also be compared 
>>> to that often encountered when using Windows on a PC.
>>> Windows users will be all-too-familiar with the situation of some Windows 
>>> Apps being more accessible when a particular Windows Screen Reader is being 
>>> used.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Apr 2019, at 1:44 am,   
 wrote:
 
 Some I have a question. Do people use voice assistant more than talkback 
 on galaxy phones? If so why?
 
 Mike
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Smith  
 Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 6:18 AM
 To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! 
 Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Samsung Galaxy S10 Notes
 
 Just one comment for the moment, as I don’t yet have my planned 
 acquisition of the S10. On a standard phone, such as the Sony Xperia X 
 Performance and Xperia Z2+ phones, how do you change the launcher? Sorry, 
 but I just can’t remember. Actually, on my Xperia, I can’t even get to the 
 

RE: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Gogle Chrome

[Roger Firman]

Dear Gordon,

I believe that Internet Explorer is not going to be, or is not supported.

I've been using Crome a bit of late and don't really like Microsoft Edge but 
sometimes it is useful for reading some pages.

Regards,

Roger Firman.


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[Techno-Chat]: Re: Gogle Chrome

[Gordon Smith]

There’s only one thing I used to dislike about Chrome, and that was the way it 
wrote home, so to speak, regarding where you’ve visited and sometimes your 
personal data. I believe, however, that Google has now changed that behaviour. 
So I might just reinstall it on my PC. I hate Microsoft Edge. It’s slow, and 
very unfriendly to use, I find. So on Windows, I went back to Internet Explorer.

But that’s another area of concern for me, since Internet Explorer isn’t the 
most secure browser these days, so maybe time to retry Chrome on Windows.


On 20 Apr 2019, at 14:48, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

I have Chrome on all my Windows systems here.
In the early days I used to have a lot of trouble with Chrome just crashing for 
no apparent reason on Windows machines.
This problem for the most part seems to have been addressed by the team at 
Google and I just don’t see the issue now.
Google is lightning fast on the platforms I use it on and it works so that’s 
good enough for me.


> On 20 Apr 2019, at 7:43 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> The Windows version didn’t impress me all that much, to be utterly honest. In 
> fact, I removed it after a while. On my BrailleNote Touch, (which runs 
> Android), it does work very well with speech turned off, which is my usual 
> method of working.
> 
> HumanWare also has its own browser, called “KeyWeb”. It’s similar in some 
> respects to Chrome, and I suspect it’s built around similar source code. 
> However, KeyWeb doesn’t show you a real version of most web pages. For a 
> start, it doesn’t seem to indicate the presence of images, although it will 
> display Alt Text and LongDesc elements. On the whole though, I prefer to use 
> Chrome when browsing on that device.
> 
> 
> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:27, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Google Chrome all round is a very nice browser on whatever platform you 
> choose to use it, IOS, OS, Android and Windows.
> 
> 
>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 2:21 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Your points are well taken. I was going to mention the Windows example 
>> actually, although another one springs to mind as well. For me, for whatever 
>> reason, Safari on MacOS is nowhere near as effective as Google Chrome is on 
>> that platform. I see many, many sites where Safari either just displays half 
>> of the web page, whereas Chrome shows it all and makes it accessible. Often, 
>> Safari fails to show up frames and controls such as video buttons. I don’t 
>> really want to get into a MacOS discussion here, that’s more appropriate for 
>> Mac Access. But the point here is that the differences between the browsers 
>> is amazing.
>> 
>> And yes, I am afraid I couldn’t resist it. To join the Mac Access mailing 
>> list, which is the sister group to this one, run on the same terms on the 
>> same servers, please send a blank. Message to:
>> 
>> Respond to the Cookie message you receive backhand you’re good to go.
>> 
>> Now, enough about Mac and Apple. ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:04, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> The answer to your question would very much depend on the user of the device.
>> Some Apps work better with Google Talkback whilst other work better with 
>> Samsung Voice Assist.
>> Samsung Voice Assist is in fact a modified version of Google Talkback and 
>> Google Talkback is an open source project so anyone can make changes or 
>> modifications as they see fit.
>> A further example of modifications being made to Google Talkback is with 
>> Amazon’s VoiceView Screen Reader which is found in many Amazon Tablets and 
>> Echo devices with a screen such as Echo Spot and Show.
>> The situation with Google Talkback and Voice Assistant can also be compared 
>> to that often encountered when using Windows on a PC.
>> Windows users will be all-too-familiar with the situation of some Windows 
>> Apps being more accessible when a particular Windows Screen Reader is being 
>> used.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 1:44 am,   
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some I have a question. Do people use voice assistant more than talkback on 
>>> galaxy phones? If so why?
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Gordon Smith  
>>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 6:18 AM
>>> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! 
>>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Samsung Galaxy S10 Notes
>>> 
>>> Just one comment for the moment, as I don’t yet have my planned acquisition 
>>> of the S10. On a standard phone, such as the Sony Xperia X Performance and 
>>> Xperia Z2+ phones, how do you change the launcher? Sorry, but I just can’t 
>>> remember. Actually, on my Xperia, I can’t even get to the Google settings, 
>>> so I. Can’t get to the Play Store.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2019, at 04:09, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Here are some interesting discoveries I’ve made with regard to the 
>>> operation of the Samsung Galaxy S10.
>>> Some of these are probably old favourites to  other users out there and if 
>>> that’s the case both bare with me and feel free to comment on