Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above. I think BIOS RAID

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/01/2012 04:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: There's probably stuff I haven't thought of here, I'm sure people can think of improvements. I'll throw an item on the agenda for Monday for this, but please do post any improvements you can think of. thanks! I would like us add a criteria about

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/01/2012 06:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I'm very hesitant to expand release requirements related to anaconda for F18. Should it not be sufficient for us to have our release criteria be on par what other os installers ( Like Windows or OS-X ) are capable of doing? JBG -- test mailing

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 10/01/2012 02:04 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 10/01/2012 06:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I'm very hesitant to expand release requirements related to anaconda for F18. Should it not be sufficient for us to have our release criteria be on par what other os installers ( Like Windows or

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/01/2012 09:35 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: I would suggest partitioning as easy and straightforward as in recent OpenSuse and Ubuntu as a reasonable goal. End user UI experience is not something we want our criteria to be based upon on since it's subjective to the eye of

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 08:48 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 10/01/2012 04:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: There's probably stuff I haven't thought of here, I'm sure people can think of improvements. I'll throw an item on the agenda for Monday for this, but please do post any

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/01/2012 03:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 08:48 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 10/01/2012 04:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: There's probably stuff I haven't thought of here, I'm sure people can think of improvements. I'll throw an item on the agenda for Monday

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:04 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 10/01/2012 06:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I'm very hesitant to expand release requirements related to anaconda for F18. Should it not be sufficient for us to have our release criteria be on par what other os installers ( Like

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 08:48 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 10/01/2012 04:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: There's probably stuff I haven't thought of here, I'm sure people can think of improvements. I'll throw an item on the agenda for

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 10/01/2012 11:53 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I think it's a good design goal to get to, eventually, but I don't think it should be a release requirement for F18. Disk partitioning resembles open heart surgery. The patient suffers when not done well. Some software problems do not appear until

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: On 10/01/2012 11:53 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I think it's a good design goal to get to, eventually, but I don't think it should be a release requirement for F18. Disk partitioning resembles open heart surgery. The patient

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 10/01/2012 03:51 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: On 10/01/2012 11:53 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I think it's a good design goal to get to, eventually, but I don't think it should be a release requirement for F18. Disk partitioning

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Have I just been told to see Figure.1 ? I guess. More to the point you've been told that the thing you say Fedora should have to keep you from using another distro, you haven't had with oldui, so it's actually a feature request.

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 19:18 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Oct 1, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Have I just been told to see Figure.1 ? I guess. More to the point you've been told that the thing you say Fedora should have to keep you from using another distro, you

Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. So I'm sorry this is a bit late, but I've been working on the proposed partitioning criteria for F18, and here's what I've got: For Alpha, I think the proposal from the earlier 'untitled' thread still stands up pretty well: * The installer must be able to complete an installation

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-09-30 Thread John Reiser
the proposed partitioning criteria for F18 So that leaves Beta. Here's what I've come up with for Beta so far: * The installer must be able to complete an installation using automatic partitioning to a disk with sufficient empty space, using the empty space and leaving the existing