Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-27 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
Adamw: That leaves terminal / Terminal, and all the system-config-* vs. control-center components (things like Date Time are identical between the two). That seems a larger problem than just the menu entries, though. There's kind of a demarcation question here; GNOME seems to have decided

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-09 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Proposal: Too similar application names CC: l...@lists.fedoraproject.org; desk...@lists.fedoraproject.org; x...@lists.fedoraproject.org; k...@lists.fedoraproject.org Let's bring this up on today's QA meeting, I am sure we'll get a good input on which way to go

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-09 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
- Original Message - On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 09:54 -0400, Vitezslav Humpa wrote: The way KDE application launcher handles this also provides nice example for a design solution to this problem. They use a Generic (e.g. Terminal) field to describe the application primarily and

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 05:50 -0400, Vitezslav Humpa wrote: Are you referring to a situation in KDE(can't boot it now to check)? Of course. I quoted a specific point i.e. that The way KDE application launcher handles this also provides nice example for a design solution to this problem.. What I'm

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-09 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
- Original Message - On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 05:50 -0400, Vitezslav Humpa wrote: Are you referring to a situation in KDE(can't boot it now to check)? Of course. I quoted a specific point i.e. that The way KDE application launcher handles this also provides nice example for a design

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-08 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
Let's bring this up on today's QA meeting, I am sure we'll get a good input on which way to go there. On the QA meeting on Monday, we've decided to reach out to GNOME for ideas on presenting duplicate application names in the overview. We'll see if they are willing to help us. Based on that

RE: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-08 Thread John Dulaney
Vita, I'll see if there is anyone at Southeast Linux Fest associated with xcfe and lxde. If so, I'll talk to them directly and report back here. John Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 05:37:13 -0400 From: vhu...@redhat.com To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Proposal: Too similar application

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 09:54 -0400, Vitezslav Humpa wrote: The way KDE application launcher handles this also provides nice example for a design solution to this problem. They use a Generic (e.g. Terminal) field to describe the application primarily and have the name of the actual binary (e.g.

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-06 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
I agree, this is a good starting point. I don't really see the point of the popups, but if other folks think they're necessary, I won't argue. Wouldn't have to be popups. Actually they are used now to provide a textual description of what the application does, e.g. for Brasero Disk Burner -

RE: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-05 Thread John Dulaney
That all said, question remains on what to actually do on this. In a long term I'd suggest trying advocate that there is a appropriate solution based in the upstream, might it be pop-ups (sounds reasonable to do for all the desktop environments) or something based on how KDE does it.

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-04 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
Thanks everybody for the input! Yeah, changing how the various desktop's launchers work is an upstream decision (in fact, changing what things are named in desktop files probably is as well.) Sorry but I have to disagree here, cryptic executable names don't belong in the UI at all.

Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-02 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
Hey folks, At last Fedora QA meeting John Dulaney had a proposal concerning the issue of similar application names we use around Fedora desktops. For example: surely sometimes you had both GNOME and XFCE installed and went for menus to open - say a terminal. The environment would use the same

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-02 Thread cornel panceac
2011/6/2 Vitezslav Humpa vhu...@redhat.com Hey folks, At last Fedora QA meeting John Dulaney had a proposal concerning the issue of similar application names we use around Fedora desktops. For example: surely sometimes you had both GNOME and XFCE installed and went for menus to open - say

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-02 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/02/2011 09:54 AM, Vitezslav Humpa wrote: Hey folks, (1) I think showing the executable name for every application is vital. Whether its directly in menu, popup or alternating pink flashing lights .. :-) The gnome and kde search tools alreadys search for executable names, so only

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Genes MailLists (li...@sapience.com) said: The optional executable name should always be available. However these details are really 'upstream' aren't they? Yeah, changing how the various desktop's launchers work is an upstream decision (in fact, changing what things are named in desktop

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-02 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: On 06/02/2011 09:54 AM, Vitezslav Humpa wrote: Hey folks,  (1) I think showing the executable name for every application is vital.  Whether its directly in menu, popup or alternating pink flashing lights .. :-)

Re: Proposal: Too similar application names

2011-06-02 Thread Rex Dieter
On 06/02/2011 08:54 AM, Vitezslav Humpa wrote: Hey folks, At last Fedora QA meeting John Dulaney had a proposal concerning the issue of similar application names we use around Fedora desktops. For example: surely sometimes you had both GNOME and XFCE installed and went for menus to open -