Re: [Tex-music] Ties across lines

[Jean-Pierre Coulon]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Don Simons wrote:


You've used Type K postscript slurs. The story would be different with
font-based. There are a gazillion choices you need to make in designing ties
and slurs that cross linebreaks. To get the "why" of the postscript slur
defaults, you'd need to get an answer from Stanislaus Kneifl.


Well, I can work around saying \isluru, roffset3{\tslur}, alaligne, 
loffset3{\isluru}, tslur.



The one you like is a tie while the one you don't like is 3 slurs. You
didn't say, but I'm guessing you don't like the short length of the lower
two slurs after the linebreak.


Yes. But I thought PostScript slurs were perfect!

Bye,

Jean-Pierre Coulon
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Re: [Tex-music] Ties across lines

[Bob Tennent]

 >|Does anybody know why they are sometimes nice as line 2
 >|and somtimes ugly as line 3?

I can't answer your question but the half-ties are less ugly
if you insert \qspace after the bar line.

Bob
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Re: [Tex-music] Ties across lines

[Don Simons]

There's a whole lot one could say about this. I'll throw out a few random
comments.

You've used Type K postscript slurs. The story would be different with
font-based. There are a gazillion choices you need to make in designing ties
and slurs that cross linebreaks. To get the "why" of the postscript slur
defaults, you'd need to get an answer from Stanislaus Kneifl.

The one you like is a tie while the one you don't like is 3 slurs. You
didn't say, but I'm guessing you don't like the short length of the lower
two slurs after the linebreak. Personally, I don't like the appearance of
the long closing tie segment. This is a "half tie" which Type K uses by
default after line breaks. They can be shut off with \nohalfties, which PMX
automatically issues (but there is a global option to stop it from
cancelling half ties).

PMX has a global option Apl which enables full control over the starting and
ending positions and curvature of both segments of line breaking type K
slurs and ties, if you don't like the defaults. (Internally, it breaks them
into two separate ties or slurs. If such special tweaks are then issued
somewhere besides at a linebreak, they are ignored.) So for example if the
second segment of a linebreaking slur starts too far to the right (like in
your example), with PMX you can easily move it to the left. End of
advertisement.

--Don Simons

> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of
> coulon...@free.fr
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 11:55 PM
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> Subject: [Tex-music] Ties across lines
> 
> Does anybody know why they are sometimes nice as line 2 and somtimes
> ugly as line 3?
> 
> Regards
> --
> Jean-Pierre Coulon

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Re: [Tex-music] Ties across lines

[Bob Tennent]

 >|Does anybody know why they are sometimes nice as line 2
 >|and somtimes ugly as line 3?

Jean-Pierre:  Do you mean across bar-lines or across systems?
The only ugly ties I see in your example are at the beginning
of the third system. Have you tried \nohalfties?

Bob T.
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