Ah, interesting! Thanks for the info.
-Pete
On Nov 28, 2010, at 3:00 AM, K. Szeker wrote:
Hi all,
hese is a Synchron TDMA, or a DBS frequency...
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~kaorin57/Synchronous%20TDMA%20Direct%20Satellite%20Broadcasting%20Network%20%28English%29.pdf
Absolutely, actually, if you don't mind, I will get your marked-up scan and add
it to my collection :)
My own 3586A bit the dust some time ago (looks like a shorted cap across the
supply somewhere), so the manual will come handy.
Didier KO4BB
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
If you are rolling your own I would advise a Soekris net4501 (US $173 new) over
any netbook for several reasons: cheaper, more rugged, better solution overall.
It all comes down to requirements, budget, and who the user is (which drives
the first two). If I were doing a system for myself, it's
Hi Roberto,
I would be interested?
Thank You
Best regards,
Sal C. Cornacchia
Electronic RF Microwave Engineer (Ret.)
From: Roberto Barrios rbarri...@msn.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 5:18:07 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] 3586A HQ
Basically I need something to provide time within one second. I can't roll
my own in this case. At home I have a Soekris box with a custom built gps
board for my normal level of time-nuttery but this is not for home. I'm
looking for commercially made rack mount servers that will not have
At 08:46 AM 11/30/2010, Robert Darlington wrote:
Also, I apologize if I'm breaching protocol with this thread. This is just
about the first post I ever saw on this list that didn't get a steady stream
of replies. I was actually questioning if this even made it into the list
till I saw this
Robert Darlington wrote:
Basically I need something to provide time within one second. I can't roll
my own in this case. At home I have a Soekris box with a custom built gps
board for my normal level of time-nuttery but this is not for home. I'm
looking for commercially made rack mount
Hi Tim:
That's a fantastic $/ns value. Does the supplied software have a
provision to set the PC clock?
Have Fun,
Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
Tim Tuck wrote:
Just joined the list and noticed the discussion about finding a cheap
USB GPS with PPS on it.
You might like to check
FWIW, you can't go wrong with Meinberg.
Several versions to choose from, reliable, and priced well.
Rob Kimberley
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Darlington
Sent: 30 November 2010 2:47 PM
To: Discussion of
Interesting for $35. Anyone actually done business with them?
Says the timing is 20ns position 2 meters. Hard to believe but wonder if
these might be a more modern timing receiver for GPS controlled references.
Regards
Paul
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Tim Tuck t...@skybase.net wrote:
Just
I've ordered several times from Sure Electronics with no problem.
Mostly 8x8 LED tiles and constant current supplies for high power LEDs.
Never ordered any GPS stuff from them though, now I'm interested enough
to go look at them again.
Scott
On Nov 30, 2010, at 8:12 AM, paul swed wrote:
Is there a Users Manual or any such thing for it ?
It would be fun to play with if only I knew what to do with it !!
73, Dick, W1KSZ
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From: paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com
Sent: Nov 30, 2010 9:12 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Something my primary flight instructor pointed out to me years...yea,
decades ago. Haven't thought about it since then.
I expect you can do the same thing with an electric fan.
Bill
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Mike Naruta AA8K a...@comcast.net wrote:
Have you ever tried humming while
Thanks for the heads up Tim. Just ordered one, we will see how it works out.
Had
K7MLR
At 08:29 PM 11/29/2010, you wrote:
Just joined the list and noticed the discussion about finding a
cheap USB GPS with PPS on it.
You might like to check these out...
Is there a Users Manual or any such thing for it ?
It would be fun to play with if only I knew what to do with it !!
See:
http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=98
http://www.sureelectronics.net/pdfs/GP-GS009_Ver1.0_EN.pdf
Bluetooth version:
http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=99
http://www.sure-electronics.net/download/GP-GS010_Ver2.0_EN.pdf
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.net wrote:
Is there a Users Manual or any such thing for it ?
http://www.sure-electronics.net/download/GP-GS010_Ver2.0_EN.pdf
--
=
Chris Albertson
Redondo
Like others I am awaiting the receipt of this unit.
I have just read the schematic and noticed the power connector is
reverse wired from the norm.
This may be a trap if its true.
Somebody wanna check this out and post a note???
Rix Seacord K2AVP
eseac...@verizon.net
845-628-0892
914-262-9186
Both are based on the SkyNav GM10 GPS module:
http://www.sureelectronics.net/pdfs/GP-GS007-pdf.pdf
which is also found here:
http://www.asichip.com/pdf/SkyNav_GM10_DS_0724.pdf
/tvb
Correction: the user manual appears out of date. Specs on
the newer Mstar MG1613S receiver are here:
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Robert Darlington
rdarling...@gmail.com wrote:
Basically I need something to provide time within one second. I can't roll
my own in this case.
I assume you don't have internet access. If you had access only a few
times per day you can get better than 1 second
On Nov 30, 2010, at 8:42 AM, William H. Fite wrote:
I expect you can do the same thing with an electric fan.
Or by chewing something crunchy (like ice) while watching a raster-scanned
(CRT) television.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net
Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/
GnuPG public key
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:33 AM, shali...@gmail.com wrote:
Just find any HP 10811, by itself or inside an instrument (you can often buy
a whole instrument with an internal 10811 cheaper than you can buy the 10811
by itself).
What HP instruments would have the HP 10811 inside?
--
My favorite has been the 5334B with Option 010.
Joe
-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on
Behalf Of Chris Albertson
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:29 PM
To: shali...@gmail.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
You can very often pick up a 5328 with the 10811 in it for $20 plus
shipping. Last one I bought was $15 including shipping...
Bob
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM, J. L. Trantham, M. D. jlt...@att.net wrote:
My favorite has been the 5334B with Option 010.
Joe
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From: shali...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:49:53
To: Chris Albertsonalbertson.ch...@gmail.com
Reply-To: shali...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] If there a FAQ
Many signal generators and counters, signal analyzers
My screen is showing the yellow temp just above the graph, currently 108
degrees F, but I can't get the temp graph to draw. Could somebody point me to
the correct command? Thanks, Bob
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On 01/12/2010 05:10, Rix Seacord wrote:
Like others I am awaiting the receipt of this unit.
I have just read the schematic and noticed the power connector is
reverse wired from the norm.
This may be a trap if its true.
Somebody wanna check this out and post a note???
Hi Rix,
What power
Just want to say a very nice job that you have done Roberto.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:26 AM, SAL CORNACCHIA salc...@rogers.com wrote:
Hi Roberto,
I would be interested?
Thank You
Best regards,
Sal C. Cornacchia
Electronic RF Microwave Engineer (Ret.)
Tim did you order it through Aus ebay?
I wonder if they have an outlet on the US ebay or should I say epay.
Interested to hear more from anyone doing business with them.
Especially if this receiver does do the 20 ns timing as stated.
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tim Tuck t...@skybase.net
Switch back to degrees C. There is a bug... uhhh... undocumented feature that
affects the graph scaling in any of the alternate temperature systems. Should
be fixed shortly...
On 01/12/2010 09:33, paul swed wrote:
Tim did you order it through Aus ebay?
I wonder if they have an outlet on the US ebay or should I say epay.
Interested to hear more from anyone doing business with them.
Especially if this receiver does do the 20 ns timing as stated.
Hi Paul,
I bought
Rob, you wound me :-) Actually, the Meinberg unit is a great box. The
commercial devices pretty much all fit the need that you describe. One
caution I would make about them is the note about the environmentals.
From experience I can tell you that a HV is a very harsh environment for
shock and
Hi Greg (and everyone!)
The environment will be dusty and hot and cold and hot and cold... There
will be air conditioning but probably not much in the way of filtering.
Diesel and gas generators run out of fuel, UPS's are probably not going to
be going along with our stuff since they're too
Er, rather, add 7 hours. You get the idea.
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Robert Darlington rdarling...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Greg (and everyone!)
The environment will be dusty and hot and cold and hot and cold... There
will be air conditioning but probably not much in the way of
I have a copy of NMEA 0183 Versions 2.30 and 3.00.
I will send any specific information on a sentence or sentence
structure, however I will not copy a complete page. This is a
copyrighted document of about 100 pages and NMEA still sells the document.
Jim Conley N0OBG
--
The heart of
But, I suspect that if you're doing it at work, the cost of your time to
scrounge, assemble, document, and test would be more than just writing a
check for a kilobuck or so to any of the commercial vendors, which would
get you a shiny new debugged box with a user manual and a warranty.
A quick over view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NMEA_0183
more details
http://gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm
Because NMEA is plain ascii text you can send it to a text file and read it
to see what you are getting . Devices do not send all posable
sentences they send a subset or maybe 8 or 12
Basically I need something to provide time within one second. I can't roll
my own in this case. At home I have a Soekris box with a custom built gps
board for my normal level of time-nuttery but this is not for home. I'm
looking for commercially made rack mount servers that will not have
That's exactly what we've done in the past (setting it when on the network
and letting the clock do what it wants) and that's fine. The actual time
isn't as important as the agreement on what time it is. This is certainly
the cheaper way to go and is becoming a viable option.
I agree about the
Tim
Sorry in my haste I did not realize there were 2 distinctly different
modules.
With or without bluetooth. The sans bluetooth module has a coaxial
connector for +5v input which is weird since, as you say the usb port
powers the unit.
On the schematic left side there what looks like a
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 21:41 -0800, Chris Albertson wrote:
WWV at 10MHz is not bad at all. My current system is a cheap
$0.75 10Mhz crystal tuned with a screwdriver on a veritable trimmer
capacitor. I know I can zero-beat it by ear and get within a couple Hz
out of 10MHz. That is better
It all depends on what your goal is. A couple of Hertz at 10 MHz will
keep you well within any of the HF ham bands.
The following addresses beyond the 'Gotta stay in the band' issue.
The problem with the Zero-beat-WWB-at-10-MHz technique is that WWB is
changing frequency. Not at the
Just joined the list and I am looking for some advise. I just bought
a Z3801A/58503A from an outfit in China to use as a frequency and time
standard for Ham radio. I am undergoing a learning curve as I try to
get my mind around the technology. The package came with an antenna
and some software
Hi Jerry,
I have the same unit, the power supply works just fine as it is for me.
Make sure you do a survey-in for your new antenna position...
Send command:
:gps:pos:surv once
bye,
Said
In a message dated 11/30/2010 20:51:55 Pacific Standard Time,
jreed...@cox.net writes:
Just
On 01/12/2010 15:04, Rix Seacord wrote:
Tim
Sorry in my haste I did not realize there were 2 distinctly different
modules.
With or without bluetooth. The sans bluetooth module has a coaxial
connector for +5v input which is weird since, as you say the usb port
powers the unit.
On the schematic
On 01/12/2010 02:27, Brooke Clarke wrote:
Hi Tim:
That's a fantastic $/ns value. Does the supplied software have a
provision to set the PC clock?
FYI. just tried the module with Tardis
http://www.kaska.demon.co.uk/
and it works fine, my Windows 7 PC now thinks its a stratum 1 clock :)
I had suggested the same thing. In fact I'd argue not having an NTP box is
more reliable than having one. A non-esistant box can't fail.
But don't run just one NTP server, run one on every non-overloaded
server. You clients will automatically sync with whichever server
is best
On Tue, Nov 30,
I have run the Z38XX software but I dont really understand yet what the
charts are telling me, outside of the sat signal strength and pattern.
There is lots and lots of info on the Z3801A out on the web. (Time sink
warning.) Here is a good place to start:
That won't work in my application. I can't run anything on any server but
one I provide specifically for time, which is why I'm looking at dedicated
time servers. Believe me when I say this crossed my mind and was crossed
off the list. Just about every system is MS Windows based which means
rdarling...@gmail.com said:
That's exactly what we've done in the past (setting it when on the network
and letting the clock do what it wants) and that's fine. The actual time
isn't as important as the agreement on what time it is. This is certainly
the cheaper way to go and is becoming a
There are sometimes delays up to 30 minutes or so due to processing of
sensor data till it makes it into my system which is also way out in the
field. Imagine a shipping pallet full of equipment that gets air dropped
into the middle of nowhere. That IS my network, and it has no connection to
I think we are getting precision and accuracy confused,
And they are quite different, In the time-nut world we use them as synonyms,
In reality its possible to have a precise measurement which is not accurate
(think instrument with bad timebase it's repeatable and reads out to a high
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