Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread EWKehren
That is basically what I do. Bert Kehren In a message dated 2/11/2011 11:44:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, namic...@gmail.com writes: One approach for the Tbolt is to use a low dropout low noise linear regulator (I used a LT1764 set to 11.5 volts) for the 12 volt input (it is within

Re: [time-nuts] Austron

2011-02-12 Thread EWKehren
Thanks Bill. I am heading right now to the Orlando Hamfest but will be on tomorrow. Bert In a message dated 2/11/2011 10:40:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wb6...@cox.net writes: Bert, The data sheet I sent you has a number of possible factory voltage options indicated where the specs

[time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-12 Thread ehydra
Hi all! I friend of mine wants to construct an experiment for students for studying random walk noise. What is the best good available transistor or other parts? All parts he tested where just to good. Thank you! - Henry -- ehydra.dyndns.info

Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/02/11 14:16, ehydra wrote: Hi all! I friend of mine wants to construct an experiment for students for studying random walk noise. What is the best good available transistor or other parts? All parts he tested where just to good. Thank you! Use a standard transistor or diode. Run a

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 79, Issue 31

2011-02-12 Thread shalimr9
In many instruments, a lot of the fan noise is actually noise from the air blowing over obstructions, so changing the fan will not reduce that noise, unless the air flow is reduced. That will be generally true for the type of equipment that dissipates a lot of heat in a small package, like a

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 79, Issue 31

2011-02-12 Thread shalimr9
Most AC fans of a given size will have a bigger motor than DC fans of the same size. That leaves less cross section for the air, therefore for the same air flow, air will have to move faster and be noisier. It is not a question of 12V versus 120V, its DC versus AC. Didier KO4BB --Original

Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-12 Thread lists
Wouldn't a zener make a better noise source. You can also breakdown the emitter-base diode, but watch the current. It can't take more than say 100uA. -Original Message- From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:27:50

Re: [time-nuts] Calculate spectral content from a series of zero crossing time stamps?

2011-02-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 11/02/11 20:26, Tijd Dingen wrote: Wavecrest just fell of the Internet for some time and then eventually re-appeared as GigaMax. All material quite obvious just changed company name and logo. A few things was cleaned out. Haven't checked since. I would think they had financial problems and

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 79, Issue 43

2011-02-12 Thread Jerry
For the T-bolt power supply I am using the Mean Well. Model: T-30B wich I bought out of China for about $45 shipped. It is a switching supply but seems to be doing the job. As I remember I bought it from fluke.i Jerry On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:33 PM, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: Send

Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-12 Thread Chris Albertson
What is the best good available transistor or other parts? All parts he tested where just to good. A conducting zenier diode across the input of an amplifier. -- = Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-12 Thread Don Latham
in software: http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~phylabs/bsc/Supplementary/NoiseGenerator.html Chris Albertson What is the best good available transistor or other parts? All parts he tested where just to good. A conducting zenier diode across the input of an amplifier. -- = Chris Albertson

Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-12 Thread Don Latham
also see: http://ipnpr.jpl.nasa.gov/progress_report/42-77/77M.PDF remarkable what a little googling will turn up... Chris Albertson What is the best good available transistor or other parts? All parts he tested where just to good. A conducting zenier diode across the input of an amplifier.

Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-12 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Flicker noise is not the same as random walk noise, the spectra differ. Using an AC coupled generator (eg a sound card) filters out the low frequency content. Zeners and transistors (biased at low current) can be used to generate flicker noise directly at least for low frequencies where it

[time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-12 Thread paul swed
Hello to the group Finally received the heat gun this week and attempted to recover a FRS c Rb lamp. In the bad lamp you can actually see a small silver blob and on closer inspection the center of the bulb front has a small circle of something. When heated by the normal oven at 177 degrees F the

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for 5372 boards

2011-02-12 Thread Geraldo Lino de Campos
On 11/02/11 22:51, Geraldo Lino de Campos wrote: Now that working 5372s are being sold for $50 repairing one may sound a bad idea, but in my case shipping would be definitely prohibitive. I have a 5373 that fails in Histogram, Count ICs, Gate Timer and Meas Rom, point to possibly faulty chips

[time-nuts] Efratom 10Mhz frequency standard from Fluke.l

2011-02-12 Thread Dave M
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of the Efratom Multiplexed output 10Mhz frequency standard from Fluke.l on EBay (item 290329156915)? I wonder if it could be used as a distribution amp, but no details about output impedance, output current capability, etc. He indicates that the

Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/02/11 21:02, Bruce Griffiths wrote: Flicker noise is not the same as random walk noise, the spectra differ. Using an AC coupled generator (eg a sound card) filters out the low frequency content. Zeners and transistors (biased at low current) can be used to generate flicker noise directly

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Neville Michie wrote: [...]For the minus 12v I used a ICL7662, these are rare, so a cmos gate oscillator and diode pump negative generator could be used. I am told the -12V is quite uncritical.[...] Thanks for the thoughts. I'm thinking about redoing the power

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
Dear Paul, On 12/02/11 21:34, paul swed wrote: Hello to the group Finally received the heat gun this week and attempted to recover a FRS c Rb lamp. In the bad lamp you can actually see a small silver blob and on closer inspection the center of the bulb front has a small circle of something.

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Kevin Rosenberg wrote: On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Neville Michie wrote: [...]For the minus 12v I used a ICL7662, these are rare, so a cmos gate oscillator and diode pump negative generator could be used. I am told the -12V is quite uncritical.[...] Thanks for the thoughts. I'm

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for 5372 boards

2011-02-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/02/11 22:02, Geraldo Lino de Campos wrote: On 11/02/11 22:51, Geraldo Lino de Campos wrote: What is the difference between the 5372 and 5373 hardware wise? Is it only software? AFAIK there is no service manual for the 5373. The numbers of the boards in mine are the same that appears on

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-12 Thread paul swed
Well indeed Magnus the black stuff and silver blob were rb. 300 degrees F for 15 minutes made it all go away. I was using a j thermocouple to measure the temp and right at the bulb. The trick seems to be for a FRS c to get the blob to the lowest point of the capsule thats observable. I did this

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
Dear Paul, On 13/02/11 00:02, paul swed wrote: Well indeed Magnus the black stuff and silver blob were rb. 300 degrees F for 15 minutes made it all go away. I was using a j thermocouple to measure the temp and right at the bulb. The trick seems to be for a FRS c to get the blob to the lowest

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread Mark Sims
The -12V supply on the tbolt is also used by the oscillator EFC dac (the EFC voltage can go negative).  Any noise on the -12V supply will be just as effective as noise on the +12V supply at messing things up.

[time-nuts] Looking for 5372 boards

2011-02-12 Thread Mark Sims
If anybody is looking for a spare 5372A CPU board...  I have one. Also, does anybody know of ROM images for the FFT option,   or 5373A images? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] Attention Orlando Fl. time nuts

2011-02-12 Thread EWKehren
Just came back from Orlando Hamcom. Bought a brand new ATT unit with FRS and extra boards for $ 50. He has more. Contact me direct and I will help you find him. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Attention Orlando Fl. time nuts

2011-02-12 Thread William H. Fite
Hey, I was out there today but didn't see that guy. Where is he? Thanks, Bill KJ4SLP On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:36 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Just came back from Orlando Hamcom. Bought a brand new ATT unit with FRS and extra boards for $ 50. He has more. Contact me direct and I will

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Larry McDavid wrote: I'm seeking a recommendation for a power supply for this Thunderbolt receiver. I use an HP 6236B that I bought inexpensively on eBay, after reading about others having good results with that combination. I had to repair it (it had one or two

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-12 Thread paul swed
Well pretty good news The lamp voltage went from 1.83 volts a dead bulb to* 8.9 volts a new bulb*. By adjusting the oscillator I can get to 9.6 volts but I know the the oscillator will not start correctly at 82 Mhz its happy at 92 Mhz. Its not locking but that can be due to several issues. At

Re: [time-nuts] FRSc RB lamp experiment

2011-02-12 Thread paul swed
By the way I can disconnect pin 1 on the lamp assembly because I made a 5 jumper assembly so that the area can be easily worked on. On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:27 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Well pretty good news The lamp voltage went from 1.83 volts a dead bulb to* 8.9 volts a new

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom 10Mhz frequency standard from Fluke.l

2011-02-12 Thread EB4APL
David, I bought one unit some time ago for using it as a kind of distribution amplifier. It is 04:30 here, so I'll give some details tomorrow. Regards, Ignacio El 12/02/2011 22:03, Dave M wrote: Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of the Efratom Multiplexed output 10Mhz frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for 5372 boards (Magnus Danielson)

2011-02-12 Thread Geraldo Lino de Campos
I ordered an EPROM programmer recently. I t should arrive in a month. I will try to make a copy then. -- Geraldo Lino de Campos gera...@decampos.net ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe,

Re: [time-nuts] Random Walk Noise experiment

2011-02-12 Thread ehydra
I think the confusion is now perfect: http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/207061#2059725 Let Google translate it from german to your language. Does the difference come from voltage vs. power spectrum? Magnus Danielson schrieb: On 12/02/11 21:02, Bruce Griffiths wrote: Flicker noise is not

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
On Feb 12, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: Cuk switching regulator Thanks for the tip! Kevin ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
On Feb 12, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: my setup eventually, when I feel a surge of time-nuttiness coming on. :) Even in its current configuration, it far exceeds my needs for a frequency reference. Exceeding your needs? Doesn't seen like that surge of time-nuttiness has hit yet

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:03 PM, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: Exceeding your needs? Doesn't seen like that surge of time-nuttiness has hit yet ;) Don't worry, I'm just pacing myself. :) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page.