Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Schematics (v0.1)

2012-02-15 Thread EB4APL
Elio, I've contacted with the guy who dissected his FE-5680A in YouTube. I offered to pay the shipping and he agrees to send the board to you, so he needs your address. Please contact directly with me. Regards, Ignacio, RB4APL El 15/02/2012 2:31, Elio Corbolante escribió: at the

Re: [time-nuts] [FMT-nuts] LightSquared is Toast!!

2012-02-15 Thread Peter Vince
See: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/business/media/fcc-bars-airwave-use-for-broadband-plan.html?_r=1scp=3sq=lightsquaredst=cse On 15 February 2012 14:34, David McClain d...@refined-audiometrics.comwrote: Yeaaa! LightSquared GPS-band broadband is gone. Big article on the front page of

Re: [time-nuts] 2004 2005 Tbolts w. the bad temp chip

2012-02-15 Thread cfo
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:58:39 +, cfo wrote: I recently got 2 tbolts , and i'm quite sure they have the bad temperature chip. Thanx I bought 4 pcs from French eBay seller philing2003 CFO ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] [FMT-nuts] LightSquared is Toast!!

2012-02-15 Thread Rob Kimberley
Good news for a change! Rob K -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Vince Sent: 15 February 2012 15:16 To: fmt-n...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] [FMT-nuts] LightSquared is Toast!!

2012-02-15 Thread Jim Lux
On 2/15/12 7:16 AM, Peter Vince wrote: See: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/business/media/fcc-bars-airwave-use-for-broadband-plan.html?_r=1scp=3sq=lightsquaredst=cse Err.. not necessarily. As one of the commentators in the business press said yesterday (paraphrasing).. Harbinger needs

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A pics

2012-02-15 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, I have the pictures of the MV201 (also the MTI Milliren 1555, the OSA8666, the OSA8650S). They are 7M, where can I upload? On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.itwrote: OK, I'll take pictures of the MV201. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Scott Newell

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question

2012-02-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Which still gets us back to - why the really odd sweep on the FE's? and should you center the VCXO as a matter of routine maintenance? Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, February 14,

[time-nuts] Fwd: [FMT-nuts] LightSquared is Toast!!

2012-02-15 Thread Peter Vince
An article in Inside GNSS expands on the story.. http://www.insidegnss.com/node/2951 Peter ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: [FMT-nuts] LightSquared is Toast!!

2012-02-15 Thread Tom Knox
Darn, I was looking forward to high speed internet access on my GPS receiver. Thomas Knox Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:26:42 + From: pvi...@theiet.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Fwd: [FMT-nuts] LightSquared is Toast!! An article in Inside GNSS expands on the story..

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi Which still gets us back to - why the really odd sweep on the FE's? and should you center the VCXO as a matter of routine maintenance? I think a very asymmetric sweep makes the most sense. First some history of sailing ships.

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question

2012-02-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi They do indeed need to know that they start low and go high. They do need to sweep to either side of the resonance. Every Rb I've ever torn into does those things. Why sweep *way* low, and almost not sweep high enough? Normally the sweep is centered. Why spend most of the sweep time not

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Schematics (v0.1)

2012-02-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Some of the schematic is less important for how it works but all of it is useful for troubleshooting. I wonder if splitting off stuff like tracing out the power supplies and heaters might be a good idea... Once we get into things like typical voltage levels, we will need to look at multiple

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A pics

2012-02-15 Thread shalimr9
www.ko4bb.com/manuals Click on Upload files and follow instructions Didier KO4BB Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From: Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.it Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:08:17 To:

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A pics

2012-02-15 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, uploaded. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:58 PM, shali...@gmail.com wrote: www.ko4bb.com/manuals Click on Upload files and follow instructions Didier KO4BB Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From: Azelio Boriani

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Albertson
I can see the programmer writing code and he knows he has to wait for warm up. So he does a sweep then calls wait().Or it could be the software is doing more than one function and the dead time is used for measuring temperatures or currents, self tests or whatever. I think they do a wide

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question

2012-02-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Bob, On 02/15/2012 06:12 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Which still gets us back to - why the really odd sweep on the FE's? They didn't look all that odd to me. As long as you do the sweeps every now and then you will lock up. I think you need to tell me what's so odd about them. and should

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question

2012-02-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you look at an LPRO or FRS or any of the other brands of Rb's their sweep is very different. They don't spend very much time at the ends of the sweep at all. It's pretty much a triangle wave sweep up and back sort of thing. They don't seem to care weather they catch the lock going high to

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi If you look at an LPRO or FRS or any of the other brands of Rb's their sweep is very different. They don't spend very much time at the ends of the sweep at all. It's pretty much a triangle wave sweep up and back sort of thing.

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question

2012-02-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 02/15/2012 11:17 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you look at an LPRO or FRS or any of the other brands of Rb's their sweep is very different. They don't spend very much time at the ends of the sweep at all. It's pretty much a triangle wave sweep up and back sort of thing. They don't seem to care

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Schematics (v0.1)

2012-02-15 Thread bob grant
FYI Schematics for the 60MHz to 10MHz out divider, directly behind the DB9. There are 3 selectable output signals on the mini RF connector, either 10MHz or 60MHz (Square) and 10MHz bandpass filtered http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i370/bobgrant1/TimeNutz/clockout.png Bob On Wed, Feb

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Contact FEI

2012-02-15 Thread Bill Riches
Just curious, Has anyone on this list actually contacted FEI and enquired about a schematic or other info about our 5680 units? They are still being sold by them. 73, Bill Riches, WA2DVU Cape May, NJ ___ time-nuts mailing list --

[time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB

2012-02-15 Thread WarrenS
In additional to the standard ADEV answers, Two important additional performance numbers to consider when testing and evaluating a RB Osc, are its TempCo, (as in freq change per degC) and its Ageing rate, (as in drift rate per day). Anyone with a spare TBolt can measure them. One simple method

Re: [time-nuts] ANFSCD - Synchronizing time in home video recorders

2012-02-15 Thread kevin-usenet
It's possible to use Bresenham with two integers 10,000,000 and 32,768 but I found no way to perform all the 24-bit calculations on an 8-bit PIC quick enough. Removing the GCD often helps but in this case the accumulator remains 3-bytes wide. Huh? Dividing 10,000,000 by 4 (to match the PIC

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Contact FEI

2012-02-15 Thread Peter Gottlieb
I haven't personally tried but others have reported they were somewhat less than cooperative. Peter On 2/15/2012 6:23 PM, Bill Riches wrote: Just curious, Has anyone on this list actually contacted FEI and enquired about a schematic or other info about our 5680 units? They are still being

[time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Sims
Lady Heather's osc drift rate calculation does assume that the temperature has been stabilized. John DuBois and I did quite a bit of work to find a way to unwind the osc parameters from the available unstabilized reported data using SciLab on the log files, but nothing seemed to work

Re: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB

2012-02-15 Thread ws at Yahoo
The other way to get around the inaction of the temperature effects and drift effects to start and stop the displayed plot at the same temperature and more important is do the ageing ageing rate over a an multiple of complete temp cycles which is why that plot is exactly 7 days long. giving 7

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Contact FEI

2012-02-15 Thread Don Latham
FEI is the most surly and uncooperative company I've dealt with in 40 years. Don Peter Gottlieb I haven't personally tried but others have reported they were somewhat less than cooperative. Peter On 2/15/2012 6:23 PM, Bill Riches wrote: Just curious, Has anyone on this list actually

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared news

2012-02-15 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
I wrote: From today's telcom trade press: The FCC said late today that the International Bureau is proposing to vacate LightSquared, Inc.'s conditional authorization and indefinitely suspend its ancillary terrestrial component (ATC) authority in the wake of the National Telecommunications

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared news

2012-02-15 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Let's hope they don't pull a SCO and keep it going for 10 years. Zombies get tiring. On 2/15/2012 10:25 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: I wrote: From today's telcom trade press: The FCC said late today that the International Bureau is proposing to vacate LightSquared, Inc.'s conditional

Re: [time-nuts] GPS lock of the FE5680. Current experiment and question

2012-02-15 Thread David
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:19:53 -0800, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: Flip-flops hardened against metastability are available. Do you have a part number in mind? Here is another one with 125pS of specified metastability if you can spare 27mA at 5 volts:

Re: [time-nuts] Testing a LPRO RB

2012-02-15 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Mark, John DuBois and I did quite a bit of work to find a way to unwind the osc parameters from the available unstabilized reported data using SciLab on the log files, but nothing seemed to work reliably. For some information on how to do that have a look at Analog Devices application