Re: [time-nuts] HP-3336B Power Supply grief...

2012-05-18 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Burt My printed manual for the 3336x has the Rev E power supply schematic and parts layout, if nobody has it already scanned I can scan it for you later today. Just the PSU that is, scanning the whole thing would be a mammoth task:-) Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated

Re: [time-nuts] HP-3336B Power Supply grief...

2012-05-18 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Burt I've been taking a further look at this and the 268 page 3336 service manual that's available online seems to have been updated in some areas but not in others. The replaceable parts list, for example, reflects the changed component values and extra components as fitted to the

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Azelio Boriani
Use the 74ABT2244: integrated resitors at the outputs. On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Rex r...@sonic.net wrote: In line with what Bob suggests, here is one of the square wave outputs of an HP Z3816A...

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Bob Camp
Hi For a 50 ohm buffer, you probably want something like 200 ohms in series with each output (4 buffers) or 400 ohms (8 buffers). Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Azelio Boriani Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 7:55 AM

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Michael Tharp
On 05/18/2012 08:24 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi For a 50 ohm buffer, you probably want something like 200 ohms in series with each output (4 buffers) or 400 ohms (8 buffers). Yep, I ended up choosing a quad buffer with 180 ohms on each pin which should yield 45 ohm source impedance and 27mA

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread shalimr9
As a driver, you can look at the RS-485 drivers. Some have very temperature stable and well controlled delays in the 10nS range, and they can drive relatively low impedances. I do not have the P/N on hand, but if you can't find one, let me know and I'll send you the P/N from home. Didier

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The next layer to this is stuff like over-voltage and short circuit protection. I'd at least rate the parts so they can handle an indefinite duration short on the output. If you have 5V and a 50 ohm source, that's going to be about 1/2 watt going *somewhere*. Bob -Original Message-

[time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Mark Sims
While you're at it, add an ATMEGA328 processor and a 250 ps res/256 step delay line. The processor reads the timing message, picks off the sawtooth correction factor, converts it to an 8-bit value that it output on a port to the delay line. The 1PPS signal clocks the port into the delay

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Michael Tharp
On 05/18/2012 01:33 PM, Mark Sims wrote: While you're at it, add an ATMEGA328 processor and a 250 ps res/256 step delay line. The processor reads the timing message, picks off the sawtooth correction factor, converts it to an 8-bit value that it output on a port to the delay line. The

[time-nuts] Software for Navman jupiter T Tu60 GPS 1pps 10khz GPS Module

2012-05-18 Thread Ken Kubick
Hi, Time-Nuts guys anyone know where I can get software for a Navman jupiter T Tu60 GPS Kit 1pps 10khz GPS Module. Thankyou Ken Kubick ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Bob Smither
On 05/18/2012 07:24 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi For a 50 ohm buffer, you probably want something like 200 ohms in series with each output (4 buffers) or 400 ohms (8 buffers). It may be worthwhile considering the gate output impedance as well. For example, for 5V AC logic driving a 50 ohm line

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Jerry Mulchin
Be careful that you use the proper logic device for the GPS 1PPS output. An 74AC device has a minimum HIGH input logic level of 2.1 volts when running with a 3.0 volt VCC, and 3.65 when running at 5 volt VCC. A GPS receiver running at 3.3 volts may be on the edge. Consider using a 74F part

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If that's a concern, use a 74ACT part Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Mulchin Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:20 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Buffering

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Tom Van Baak
If this is for a computer and NTP then you may ignore the sawtooth. GPS receiver sawtooth corrections are for people working at the nanosecond level; important when you're working with disciplining quartz or rubidium oscillators with stability at the 1e-12 level. Computer timekeeping and NTP is

Re: [time-nuts] Software for Navman jupiter T Tu60 GPS 1pps 10khz GPS Module

2012-05-18 Thread mike cook
Le 18/05/2012 20:14, Ken Kubick a écrit : Hi, Time-Nuts guys anyone know where I can get software for a Navman jupiter T Tu60 GPS Kit 1pps 10khz GPS Module. What you need depends on the protocol it powers up in. If it is Motorola, you can talk to it with TAC32 If in Zodiac binary, then

Re: [time-nuts] Software for Navman jupiter T Tu60 GPS 1pps 10khz GPS Module

2012-05-18 Thread k4...@aol.com
Ken, Are you wanting something to monitor the receiver data? It is the same as the Motorola UT+. Rick Hanby (CNS Systems and a fellow timenut) sells a program called TAC32 Plus which will do the job. Regards, Doug Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Software for Navman jupiter T Tu60 GPS 1pps 10khz GPS Module

2012-05-18 Thread Chris Albertson
There is another older free program that I got from the Motorola web site. That if all you want to do is verify that it works NTP can do that. Usethe GPS as an NTP clock source. On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM, k4...@aol.com k4...@aol.com wrote: Ken, Are you wanting something to monitor the

Re: [time-nuts] Software for Navman jupiter T Tu60 GPS 1pps 10khz GPS Module

2012-05-18 Thread k4...@aol.com
Mike, The standard Jupiter-T should never power up in Rockwell binary. You have to command it to go to binary with a special Motorola format message. Regards, Doug Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: mike cook michael.c...@sfr.fr To: time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Buffering a PPS signal

2012-05-18 Thread Hal Murray
t...@leapsecond.com said: If this is for a computer and NTP then you may ignore the sawtooth. GPS receiver sawtooth corrections are for people working at the nanosecond level; important when you're working with disciplining quartz or rubidium oscillators with stability at the 1e-12 level.

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2012-05-18 Thread Mark Sims
No, actually it is for my alarm clock. Ignore the sawtooth? Poppycock! What self-respecting time nut could possibly tolerate being woken up with a +/- 15 ns uncertainty... --- If this is for a computer and NTP then you may ignore the sawtooth. GPS receiver sawtooth

Re: [time-nuts] Software for Navman jupiter T Tu60 GPS 1pps 10khz GPS Module

2012-05-18 Thread mike cook
Agreed. I made the distinction as someone in a previous thread was indicating that they got a rockwell binary response on power on. Le 19/05/2012 01:42, k4...@aol.com a écrit : Mike, The standard Jupiter-T should never power up in Rockwell binary. You have to command it to go to binary with