Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt oven / non-stable operating temperature

2012-12-12 Thread bg
Warrenm tvb posted Were you able to test how quickly, or how well, the filter learned the tempco of the OCXO? Only at a couple of very general data points. Using a very Bad unit, the Kalman filter had an effect, although not very good in under 1/2 day. After a week or so on a good

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt oven / non-stable operating temperature

2012-12-12 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Michael, Nice, clean plots. Thanks for sharing. Ah, but does correlation imply causation? Note that crystal resonators, even inside an oven, are also sensitive ambient temperature sensors. As temperature changes the OCXO drifts off-frequency -- the TBolt then sees the average PPSns diverge

[time-nuts] DMTI and Timelab setup

2012-12-12 Thread Timeok
Hi all, if I will use a dual mixer TI meter, suppose to have : LO 5.000.005 Hz Ref and Ftest 5 MHz IF= 5Hz how do I have to setup Timelab for acquisition? Sampling interval = Input frequency = Scale factor = Thanks all, Luciano timeok

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt oven / non-stable operating temperature

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The later TBolt OCXO's have temperature performance similar to an HP10811. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:36 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts]

[time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Fabio Eboli
Racal 1992 GPIB, to Chuck Forsberg: thank you, I will go to see your work. A little update, after about 20 hours this is the logging situation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14336723@N08/8267828444/ Not bad, seem the GPS chipset jitter claim of 10nS is real, what do you think. Could this unit be

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi 20 hours should be 20*60*60 = 72000 samples. The graphs appear to show about 17,000 samples. If the results do cover a 20 hour period and do not have drift removed, that's a good FE5680. 1.4x10^-14 is an amazing number for one of those. Bob -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Fabio Eboli
Bob Camp li...@rtty.us ha scritto: Hi 20 hours should be 20*60*60 = 72000 samples. The graphs appear to show about 17,000 samples. Hello Bob, unfortunately I'm not logging all the pps samples, I'm picking one sample every about 4 pulses, because I'm triggering the counter and waiting 4s

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, so the data is already decimated and it does show a 20 hour period. The way I'm reading things - the pps's start out at zero offset on the left side (yellow line at about sample 350). They still are at roughly zero offset on the right side (at about sample 17045). Total peak to peak in

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Fabio Eboli
Bob Camp li...@rtty.us ha scritto: Hi Ok, so the data is already decimated and it does show a 20 hour period. Yes The way I'm reading things - the pps's start out at zero offset on the left side (yellow line at about sample 350). They still are at roughly zero offset on the right side (at

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you are driving the counter's frequency standard input with the FE5680 and simply measuring the period of the GPS output, then the data would make sense. I am assuming that the counter starts counting on the pps out of the FE5680 and stops counting on the pps out of the GPS. That way

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Fabio Eboli
Bob Camp li...@rtty.us ha scritto: Hi If you are driving the counter's frequency standard input with the FE5680 and simply measuring the period of the GPS output, then the data would make sense. Bob, the data make sense :) I'm using the FE5680 as ext standard for the counter, the pps is

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Yes, I would run the FE5680 into the counter's frequency standard input. For the real data, you can set up the counter to start on the GPS pps and stop on the 10 MHz output from the FE5680. You will only have 100 ns of range. You can unscramble the data after the fact. If you don't want to

[time-nuts] RaspberryPi and RADclock

2012-12-12 Thread Matt Davis
Hey time-legumes, I figured a few of you all might be interested in some of the work that the team and I have been doing. We recently acquired a couple of RaspberryPis, and out of curiosity, we wanted to see how well our RADclock software performs on this small platform. Anyways, our dive into

Re: [time-nuts] RaspberryPi and RADclock

2012-12-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
Matt, On 12/12/2012 10:23 PM, Matt Davis wrote: Hey time-legumes, I figured a few of you all might be interested in some of the work that the team and I have been doing. We recently acquired a couple of RaspberryPis, and out of curiosity, we wanted to see how well our RADclock software

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Fabio Eboli
Thanks Bob, the next logging session will be setup as per your suggestion. Now I'm logging with the counter in time interval, Rb 1 is the start, GPS is the stop and Rb2 is the ext reference. The pulses are 670mS apart now. Fabio. Bob Camp li...@rtty.us ha scritto: Hi Yes, I would run the

Re: [time-nuts] MT3339 PA6H and Racal Dana GPIB, update

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi That approach works well. If you have them about a half second apart I'd stick with that setup. Bob On Dec 12, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Fabio Eboli fabi...@quipo.it wrote: Thanks Bob, the next logging session will be setup as per your suggestion. Now I'm logging with the counter in time

Re: [time-nuts] RaspberryPi and RADclock

2012-12-12 Thread paul swed
Matt you have my attention. I am curious if the RADclock could act as a time server. Already you can tell I don't know alot. But did skim through some of the RADcloc docs. But the fact that it could live on a Rasberry Pi makes it really interesting. A timesource on the wall give it power and

Re: [time-nuts] DMTI and Timelab setup

2012-12-12 Thread John Miles
Hi, Luciano -- The sampling interval would be whatever rate the counter is returning readings, as usual. I usually let the acquisition driver estimate the rate, unless I know it's exactly one reading per second. In frequency mode, the scale factor should be 1E-6. You need the program to treat

Re: [time-nuts] RaspberryPi and RADclock

2012-12-12 Thread Matt Davis
Hi Magnus, From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org Matt, On 12/12/2012 10:23 PM, Matt Davis wrote: Hey time-legumes, I figured a few of you all might be interested in some of the work that the team and I have been doing. We recently acquired a couple of RaspberryPis, and